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Post by kerouac on May 15, 2023 18:56:16 GMT
Getting stuck into work shy fop Jese and talking about his missed pen for us,it still hurts and he wonders if he’d have scored,things may have been different.
An interesting listen.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 15, 2023 18:58:08 GMT
People in glass houses and all that.
I loved Charlie as a Stoke City player but he was a fat bastard at the best of times and could have been much fitter.
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Post by lancashirelad on May 15, 2023 19:13:02 GMT
Getting stuck into work shy fop Jese and talking about his missed pen for us,it still hurts and he wonders if he’d have scored,things may have been different. An interesting listen. Heard it and he said it with remorse. Very much what ifs, but i suspect the confidence gained from a win would have saved Stoke but as we all know Stoke players made a few mistakes to give goals and points away and thus like every season what might have beens but very costly and ended a great experience playing the best teams. Dreams live on. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 19:15:31 GMT
People in glass houses and all that. I loved Charlie as a Stoke City player but he was a fat bastard at the best of times and could have been much fitter. Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 15, 2023 19:23:01 GMT
People in glass houses and all that. I loved Charlie as a Stoke City player but he was a fat bastard at the best of times and could have been much fitter. Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. Imagine how much better he could have been if he took his fitness more seriously? He was indeed a good footballer but I don’t think he should be on radio calling other people work shy. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 15, 2023 19:23:22 GMT
People in glass houses and all that. I loved Charlie as a Stoke City player but he was a fat bastard at the best of times and could have been much fitter. Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. For balance, see ripped Tyrese who is absolutely blowing after 30 minutes. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 19:29:07 GMT
Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. For balance, see ripped Tyrese who is absolutely blowing after 30 minutes. Precisely |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on May 15, 2023 19:31:23 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss.
Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it.
It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did.
Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed)
I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 19:31:31 GMT
Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. Imagine how much better he could have been if he took his fitness more seriously? He was indeed a good footballer but I don’t think he should be on radio calling other people work shy. Why? There were far lazier players than Charlie Adam. All this shit he gets for being fat and unfit is mainly unfounded. Going up a level, Rooney always looked “overweight”, I suppose he could have been better too? Some people just don’t look athletic, doesn’t mean they’re less fit or worse than anyone else |
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Post by Davef on May 15, 2023 19:34:58 GMT
THIS again?
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Post by lancashirelad on May 15, 2023 19:35:01 GMT
Imagine being fat and still completing 90mins of premier league football. He wasn’t athletic but was a good footballer, end of. Imagine how much better he could have been if he took his fitness more seriously? He was indeed a good footballer but I don’t think he should be on radio calling other people work shy. I think the OPs referred to work shy but Charlie referred to Jesse attitude and lifestyle whilst at Stoke just for context. Thus the difference between both players is night and day whilst at Stoke. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 15, 2023 19:44:42 GMT
Imagine how much better he could have been if he took his fitness more seriously? He was indeed a good footballer but I don’t think he should be on radio calling other people work shy. Why? There were far lazier players than Charlie Adam. All this shit he gets for being fat and unfit is mainly unfounded. Going up a level, Rooney always looked “overweight”, I suppose he could have been better too? Some people just don’t look athletic, doesn’t mean they’re less fit or worse than anyone else I don’t think I’m giving him shit but fair enough, we disagree. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 19:45:35 GMT
Why? There were far lazier players than Charlie Adam. All this shit he gets for being fat and unfit is mainly unfounded. Going up a level, Rooney always looked “overweight”, I suppose he could have been better too? Some people just don’t look athletic, doesn’t mean they’re less fit or worse than anyone else I don’t think I’m giving him shit but fair enough, we disagree. I didn’t say you were tbf, I meant historically. It wasn’t aimed at you👍🏻 |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 15, 2023 19:48:57 GMT
I don’t think I’m giving him shit but fair enough, we disagree. I didn’t say you were tbf, I meant historically. It wasn’t aimed at you👍🏻 For what it’s worth I think Wazza should have been at Messi/Ronaldo levels, I don’t blame him for wanting to enjoy the finer things in life though (I’d be the same). |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 19:50:06 GMT
I didn’t say you were tbf, I meant historically. It wasn’t aimed at you👍🏻 For what it’s worth I think Wazza should have been at Messi/Ronaldo levels, I don’t blame him for wanting to enjoy the finer things in life though (I’d be the same). You wouldn’t see them pair get knocked out by Phil Bardsley in his kitchen. That’s living alright🤣 |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 15, 2023 19:53:47 GMT
For what it’s worth I think Wazza should have been at Messi/Ronaldo levels, I don’t blame him for wanting to enjoy the finer things in life though (I’d be the same). You wouldn’t see them pair get knocked out by Phil Bardsley in his kitchen. That’s living alright🤣 Forgot about that! Hopefully still on YouTube… |
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Post by Robo10 on May 15, 2023 19:55:02 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. Eh? It was against Brighton, the score was 1-1 and it was literally the last kick of the game on 96 mins! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 15, 2023 19:55:57 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. He was our penalty taker though, he was right to ‘insist’ on taking it. I don’t think he’d missed one before that for us. Would’ve been nice if he could’ve broken into so much as a light jog for the rebound, mind. I blame Lambert for picking him as he looked a million miles away from match fit at the time. We’d have beaten Everton in a different game if he hadn’t lunged into a brainless red card tackle in that game. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 15, 2023 20:00:33 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. Eh? It was against Brighton, the score was 1-1 and it was literally the last kick of the game on 96 mins! Yeah but apart from that everything he said was true. |
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Post by marwood on May 15, 2023 20:17:56 GMT
For balance, see ripped Tyrese who is absolutely blowing after 30 minutes. Precisely agreed, we can all play the ifs and buts game and for balance, see Leicester, about to be relegated 7 years after winning the league |
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Post by scfc75 on May 15, 2023 20:21:14 GMT
It would have made no difference to our trajectory. If not that season, we’d have gone the next. The notion that we’d have gone on to have another 5+ consecutive seasons in the premier league is far fetched.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 15, 2023 20:23:23 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. He was our penalty taker though, he was right to ‘insist’ on taking it. I don’t think he’d missed one before that for us. Would’ve been nice if he could’ve broken into so much as a light jog for the rebound, mind. I blame Lambert for picking him as he looked a million miles away from match fit at the time. We’d have beaten Everton in a different game if he hadn’t lunged into a brainless red card tackle in that game. Was that not Newcastle? Thought it was but maybe Everton in the snow? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 15, 2023 20:24:52 GMT
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on May 15, 2023 20:27:07 GMT
He was our penalty taker though, he was right to ‘insist’ on taking it. I don’t think he’d missed one before that for us. Would’ve been nice if he could’ve broken into so much as a light jog for the rebound, mind. I blame Lambert for picking him as he looked a million miles away from match fit at the time. We’d have beaten Everton in a different game if he hadn’t lunged into a brainless red card tackle in that game. Was that not Newcastle? Thought it was but maybe Everton in the snow? Yeah it was the Everton game. He gave away possession which led to Newcastle scoring if I remember correctly. There was also his dreadful cameo away at Leicester. If it comes out that he had money on Leicester it wouldn't surprise me, he was disgraceful that game. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 15, 2023 20:29:08 GMT
Was that not Newcastle? Thought it was but maybe Everton in the snow? Yeah it was the Everton game. He gave away possession which led to Newcastle scoring if I remember correctly. There was also his dreadful cameo away at Leicester. If it comes out that he had money on Leicester it wouldn't surprise me, he was disgraceful that game. Yes thanks, I remember the Newcastle one now, he shouldn’t have been played for many of those games. |
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Post by Gods on May 15, 2023 20:33:27 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. Was it Lewis Dunk, who went on to play for England, who legged Charlie over from behind as he stepped up to roll in the rebound? I remember my emotions 1. Charlie will score 2. Oh shit the keeper has parried the ball away 3. It's okay Charlie will just step up and roll the rebound in to an empty net 4. Then everything seemd to go in to slo-mo 5. Dunk carted him over from behind 6. We won't get 2 penalties 7. The rest is history Here it is...  |
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Post by Veritas on May 15, 2023 20:38:16 GMT
Sorry but I still haven’t forgiven Charlie for THAT penalty miss. Yes imo, things would have been different if he hadn’t snatched the ball from (can’t remember?) and insisted on taking it. It was an accident waiting to happen and guess what, it did. Having said that we should have had an absolutely nailed on penalty in the fracas that followed) I’m sure we would have gone on to beat Everton that day and maybe, who knows, still be in the Prem. Was it Lewis Dunk, who went on to play for England, who legged Charlie over from behind as he stepped up to roll in the rebound? I rememebr my emotions 1. Charlie will score 2. Oh shit the keeper has parried the ball away 3. It's okay Charlie will just step up and roll the rebound in to an empty net 4. Then everything seemd to go in to slo-mo and the rest is history Here it is... As much as I dislike it VAR would have seen the penalty retaken and their player sent off!! |
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Post by theoptimist on May 15, 2023 20:38:19 GMT
Biggest crime wasn't missing the penalty. That can happen to the best. It was the tap in from the rebound that he managed to waddle up to and be beaten to by the defender he had a 10yd head start on.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 15, 2023 20:55:20 GMT
The thing that mildly annoys me about the Everton red card was that the game was played in snow and, after a tense opening, the game had opened up into a fun passage of play. Players from both teams flew into ridiculous sliding tackles that are generally frowned upon in the modern game and it made for quite an entertaining spectacle. The referee could have blown up for any of them but waited until Charlie Adam got a stamp in on Rooney.
To be honest, I wouldn't have given a foul. The game was much better with both teams going right at it.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on May 15, 2023 20:59:05 GMT
It would have made no difference to our trajectory. If not that season, we’d have gone the next. The notion that we’d have gone on to have another 5+ consecutive seasons in the premier league is far fetched. Agreed, we were in total free fall.. another season on the prem could of been embarrassing and painful to say the least. Great to hear the word trajectory again... not heard it since sir Gary was analysing Rorys throw ins.. 😆😆 |
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