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Post by noustie on Nov 20, 2023 19:24:58 GMT
Not convinced by Emma Hayes - gives off Breedon Rogers vibes. Wiegman looks good though. I'd say if a bloke's team get it right they could be onto something. Old skool managers say they can't hairdryer treatment anymore so mothering them might get something different out of them. Are you suggesting a little bitty at half time? Maybe something in it - wasn't there a snooker player whose Mrs would shag him in the interval if he was playing crap? Half time at Stoke would be like a massive Roman orgy!
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Post by independent on Nov 20, 2023 19:25:33 GMT
You can't compare being successful in an undeveloped Women's Football system with Men's football. It is like comparing Amateur and Professional Boxing. It will be interesting to see how successful Emma Hayes and Sarina Wiegman are over the next few years. Either of these could possibly be successful in the Men's game but it would be a foolhardy club who would gamble on it. We all know that if they proved unsuccessful then the usual excuses would be rolled out. Not convinced by Emma Hayes - gives off Breedon Rogers vibes. Wiegman looks good though.I'd say if a bloke's team get it right they could be onto something. Old skool managers say they can't hairdryer treatment anymore so mothering them might get something different out of them. I would actually think the opposite. Hayes can actually change things mid game. She has taken on a very tough job. U.S. aren't the team they were, and England may well have peaked as well. Funny how the World Cup And Women's Euros were both won in England. We can't host every competition.
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Post by noustie on Nov 20, 2023 19:33:08 GMT
I think they've stumbled on their market by accident - the idea that middle aged women would turn into football fans by watching women play football never really seemed realistic. It's dads, and mums too, whose daughter plays where this is going to grow. Can't see it getting to the blokes level but for the prices good day out for families like football was when I were a lad!! Exactly, the women seem to enjoy playing the game much more than the men! There's still a naivety about it which is endearing. There are signs this is changing a little with 'professionalism' but no where near the same level as the men! I've barely lasted 20 minutes of a Premier League game this season without falling asleep or switching over. Stumbled on the evening Sunday WSL game a few times and the couple that were close genuinely engaged me - the rough edges and 'off the cuff' passages of play are quite refreshing. The blokes game is obviously a higher standard physically but they're coached to the point of it becoming sterile.
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Post by noustie on Nov 20, 2023 19:43:22 GMT
Not convinced by Emma Hayes - gives off Breedon Rogers vibes. Wiegman looks good though.I'd say if a bloke's team get it right they could be onto something. Old skool managers say they can't hairdryer treatment anymore so mothering them might get something different out of them. I would actually think the opposite. Hayes can actually change things mid game. She has taken on a very tough job. U.S. aren't the team they were, and England may well have peaked as well. Funny how the World Cup And Women's Euros were both won in England. We can't host every competition. I think Hayes is on a hiding to nothing there as from the three and a half articles I've skim read their grassroots 'soccer' is fucked. Wouldn't be surprised if she's gone relatively quickly even though they can't afford it but would be harsh to judge her on it - equally fair play if she makes a success of it. Heard her on the radio talking about the WSL 'product' and it completely put me off her to be honest- its like nothing is learned from the leagues that financially blew up.
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Post by independent on Nov 20, 2023 19:57:07 GMT
I would actually think the opposite. Hayes can actually change things mid game. She has taken on a very tough job. U.S. aren't the team they were, and England may well have peaked as well. Funny how the World Cup And Women's Euros were both won in England. We can't host every competition. I think Hayes is on a hiding to nothing there as from the three and a half articles I've skim read their grassroots 'soccer' is fucked. Wouldn't be surprised if she's gone relatively quickly even though they can't afford it but would be harsh to judge her on it - equally fair play if she makes a success of it. Heard her on the radio talking about the WSL 'product' and it completely put me off her to be honest- its like nothing is learned from the leagues that financially blew up. You may well be right, but I still think she is the better of the two.The U.S. Franchise system is crazy. The last team that started up in L.A. had to give the League something like $60m for the privilege. It really is more akin to the entertainment industry than Sport.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 21, 2023 7:51:16 GMT
No CV in the men’s game don’t be daft but Sarina Wiegman had a successful playing career in Netherlands and USA where she also got her coaching badge. She managed several Dutch women’s teams winning the league title and cup twice. At international level she led Netherlands to European Championship win 2017 & runner up in 2019 World Cup. She did the same with England in 2021 Euros and this years World Cup. Statistically as International manager she has achieved well over 70% wins rate with both England & Netherlands and she has been voted FIFA best women’s coach 3 times and EUFA women’s Coach of the year twice. So far from just, as you say making a statement by appointing her because she is a woman, imo she has more than enough credentials to do it. But it’s probably the fear of her being successful & misogyny of players that will prevent it happening. You do realise that 30% of the players in the recent World Cup Finals were Amateurs. The standard of the Women's game in Europe has improved over the last few years, but it is still poor. Before that, it was abysmal, with 9-0 games occurring on a regular basis. If you think that any Club Chairman would not appoint a women that he thought would bring success because he was afraid of her being successful, then I am afraid you should see the men in the White coats. Seems like I’m not the only one to get your men in white coats visit 🤣 www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38207135/fa-consider-wiegman-southgate-england-successor#
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 21, 2023 8:55:25 GMT
Stick a bloke in goal at both ends and every match would end 0-0. Well yeah. An average UK male was 5'9" in 2012, while an average woman was 5'1 1⁄2". When the goals are 22' wide and 8' tall, this means that the goals are almost 10% bigger for women than for men adjusted for height. If a male GK had the same size goal it would have been almost 24' x 8'8". I always said women should play on a slightly smaller pitch (90% size) and with slightly smaller goals. The football women's tough fightThey are 8 yards wide 24 feet
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Post by idle on Nov 21, 2023 12:36:03 GMT
Well yeah. An average UK male was 5'9" in 2012, while an average woman was 5'1 1⁄2". When the goals are 22' wide and 8' tall, this means that the goals are almost 10% bigger for women than for men adjusted for height. If a male GK had the same size goal it would have been almost 24' x 8'8". I always said women should play on a slightly smaller pitch (90% size) and with slightly smaller goals. The football women's tough fightThey are 8 yards wide 24 feet Oh thanks, a typo snuck into my calculations. Even worse then (26' x 8'8")
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 21, 2023 12:47:49 GMT
I read the thread title wrong again. Was getting excited for the Womens' Manic Derby. Thought we'd started local crazy ladies pari-mutual racing.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 21, 2023 12:59:45 GMT
Just read this topic. Who the fuck is doing the ironing and cleaning, and those dishes won't wash themselves! Gouranga.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 21, 2023 13:28:16 GMT
Just read this topic. Who the fuck is doing the ironing and cleaning, and those dishes won't wash themselves! Gouranga. I have a lady called Kay does mine. £25 a week
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 21, 2023 13:29:10 GMT
I saw a bit of the game at Stoke. Ridiculous dive, was it v Luxembourg.The game I saw before that, was either England or the opposition got a second yellow for diving. As for the woman being appointed men's coach, does she have a CV in the men's game to warrant that or because she's female ? Don't know anything about her to be honest but you can't appoint someone because it would be making a statement when there are better candidates with experience in that field. No CV in the men’s game don’t be daft but Sarina Wiegman had a successful playing career in Netherlands and USA where she also got her coaching badge. She managed several Dutch women’s teams winning the league title and cup twice. At international level she led Netherlands to European Championship win 2017 & runner up in 2019 World Cup. She did the same with England in 2021 Euros and this years World Cup. Statistically as International manager she has achieved well over 70% wins rate with both England & Netherlands and she has been voted FIFA best women’s coach 3 times and EUFA women’s Coach of the year twice. So far from just, as you say making a statement by appointing her because she is a woman, imo she has more than enough credentials to do it. But it’s probably the fear of her being successful & misogyny of players that will prevent it happening. With the Dutch qualifying for the Euros, along with Ronald Koeman just bumbling along as coach of the Dutch, this issue of Wiegman taking over as Dutch coach was discussed last night on TV. Youve outlined clearly above, the plusses of why she has the credentials to deliver BUT, IF she failed the usual remarks of ' why did we appoint a woman' would surface immediately, this after no coach has EVER delivered success since, apart from Michiels at the Euro 88. Me....? Id give her the job in a shot. Shes good !
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 21, 2023 13:38:02 GMT
I think Hayes is on a hiding to nothing there as from the three and a half articles I've skim read their grassroots 'soccer' is fucked. Wouldn't be surprised if she's gone relatively quickly even though they can't afford it but would be harsh to judge her on it - equally fair play if she makes a success of it. Heard her on the radio talking about the WSL 'product' and it completely put me off her to be honest- its like nothing is learned from the leagues that financially blew up. You may well be right, but I still think she is the better of the two.The U.S. Franchise system is crazy. The last team that started up in L.A. had to give the League something like $60m for the privilege. It really is more akin to the entertainment industry than Sport. And then they’ll move the franchise to another state if it’s not working out. The US model system for sport is in no way similar to what the UK has with football. It’s my biggest fear of so many US owners coming in.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 21, 2023 19:37:47 GMT
Stick a bloke in goal at both ends and every match would end 0-0. Well yeah. An average UK male was 5'9" in 2012, while an average woman was 5'1 1⁄2". When the goals are 22' wide and 8' tall, this means that the goals are almost 10% bigger for women than for men adjusted for height. If a male GK had the same size goal it would have been almost 24' x 8'8". I always said women should play on a slightly smaller pitch (90% size) and with slightly smaller goals. The football women's tough fightThe logical extension of that is that as the average height of males increases goals and pitches should get bigger. New Stadia shoukd take this into account in the build.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 21, 2023 19:47:35 GMT
Well yeah. An average UK male was 5'9" in 2012, while an average woman was 5'1 1⁄2". When the goals are 22' wide and 8' tall, this means that the goals are almost 10% bigger for women than for men adjusted for height. If a male GK had the same size goal it would have been almost 24' x 8'8". I always said women should play on a slightly smaller pitch (90% size) and with slightly smaller goals. The football women's tough fightThe logical extension of that is that as the average height of males increases goals and pitches should get bigger. New Stadia shoukd take this into account in the build. It’s not logical, it’s silly. If the women’s game wants to get better it needs to accept that allowances are needed.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 21, 2023 20:04:28 GMT
Fair play to the women's game for maximising the opportunity presented by these football free so called 'International' weekends. It used to be one man and a dog in the audience and sometimes the dog wouldn't turn up. But now in the words of Bob Dylan 'The times they are a'changing'. Do you know how much tickets are? I think if anything it’s getting less popular despite all the hype, media glorification etc. I must say I'd rather stare at a wall for 90 minutes than watch women's football. Big respect to those involved and those trying their very best to make it a game worth watching but it's not for me. Whenever I watch it the standard is bloody dire and I rapidly switch over to watching cricket highlights from 2003 or the like.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 21, 2023 20:17:37 GMT
The logical extension of that is that as the average height of males increases goals and pitches should get bigger. New Stadia shoukd take this into account in the build. It’s not logical, it’s silly. If the women’s game wants to get better it needs to accept that allowances are needed. It is getting better - without interference from people who have no interest in their game but still think they know best.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 21, 2023 20:38:34 GMT
It’s not logical, it’s silly. If the women’s game wants to get better it needs to accept that allowances are needed. It is getting better - without interference from people who have no interest in their game but still think they know best. I strongly believe I do know better and you don’t need any qualifications to know something as plain as the nose on your face
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 21, 2023 21:13:17 GMT
It is getting better - without interference from people who have no interest in their game but still think they know best. I strongly believe I do know better and you don’t need any qualifications to know something as plain as the nose on your face You know it's that chronic self-effacing modesty that's been holding you back a this time.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 21, 2023 22:45:30 GMT
Hasn't Union Berlin just appointed a woman as coach or did I miss hear the story?
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Post by franklin on Nov 22, 2023 11:42:50 GMT
Womens rugby is excellent and I watch most televised games however I don't watch womens football. I attended the England v Nigeria World up game this summer at the Suncorp stadium as i was there and thought why not give it a go and I'll be honest I couldn't wait for it to finish it was as poor a game I've ever seen so lacking in basic quality it was unreal. I genuinely couldn't believe how bad it was and unfortunately I won't be attending another anytime soon.
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Post by independent on Nov 22, 2023 12:52:17 GMT
It’s not logical, it’s silly. If the women’s game wants to get better it needs to accept that allowances are needed. It is getting better - without interference from people who have no interest in their game but still think they know best.Maybe it is getting better. But with crowds like those below, it is questionable whether the interest is growing as fast as you would like to think. Those 2 games would have had combined maximum gate money of about £17k, the equivelent of 850 fans at a Stoke City game in the cheapest seats and we aren't even in the top division. Nov 5: West Ham vs Bristol City, Attendance: 791 Nov 19: Everton 2-2 Bristol City, Attendance: 886 We keep hearing about the record attendances at particular games but we don't hear about the poorly attended games. The 6 games on Nov.5th last had a Total attendance of 15,477 with an Average of 2,580 The 6 games on Nov.12th last had a Total attendance of 19,759 Average of 3,293 Stoke City's last home game had: Attendance: 23,089 and it wasn't £8/£10 in. Hopefully the WSL will take off but the idea that people will jump on any bandwagon may not actually be true.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 22, 2023 13:53:21 GMT
It is getting better - without interference from people who have no interest in their game but still think they know best. Maybe it is getting better. But with crowds like those below, it is questionable whether the interest is growing as fast as you would like to think. Those 2 games would have had combined maximum gate money of about £17k, the equivelent of 850 fans at a Stoke City game in the cheapest seats and we aren't even in the top division. Nov 5: West Ham vs Bristol City, Attendance: 791 Nov 19: Everton 2-2 Bristol City, Attendance: 886 We keep hearing about the record attendances at particular games but we don't hear about the poorly attended games. The 6 games on Nov.5th last had a Total attendance of 15,477 with an Average of 2,580 The 6 games on Nov.12th last had a Total attendance of 19,759 Average of 3,293 Stoke City's last home game had: Attendance: 23,089 and it wasn't £8/£10 in. Hopefully the WSL will take off but the idea that people will jump on any bandwagon may not actually be true. The "it's getting better" comment related to the quality of the games. From what I have seen they are significantly better in terms of skill, athleticism and tactical awareness than they were 10 years ago - which is more than I can say for Stoke. With regard to attendances let them go their own way - there are plenty of elite sports that don't get massive crowds other than for major tournaments. Comparing them to men's football in that respect us bonkers. Not many - if any - sports compare to the popularity of mens football. I just find it tiresome every time there's a thread on women's football the usual tropes come out of 'boring', 'dog chasing a balloon', rather watch grass grow' 'if they had a bloke in goals every game would be nil-nil' and 'pitches and goals should be smaller' - usually from people who hsve no interest in it and even if changes were made would still queue up to stick the boot in. They were banned by men's football for half a century, largely because women's football was seen as a threat and they've got some catching up to do. Give 'em a break and let them find their own way.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 22, 2023 14:06:50 GMT
I saw a bit of the game at Stoke. Ridiculous dive, was it v Luxembourg.The game I saw before that, was either England or the opposition got a second yellow for diving. As for the woman being appointed men's coach, does she have a CV in the men's game to warrant that or because she's female ? Don't know anything about her to be honest but you can't appoint someone because it would be making a statement when there are better candidates with experience in that field. No CV in the men’s game don’t be daft but Sarina Wiegman had a successful playing career in Netherlands and USA where she also got her coaching badge. She managed several Dutch women’s teams winning the league title and cup twice. At international level she led Netherlands to European Championship win 2017 & runner up in 2019 World Cup. She did the same with England in 2021 Euros and this years World Cup. Statistically as International manager she has achieved well over 70% wins rate with both England & Netherlands and she has been voted FIFA best women’s coach 3 times and EUFA women’s Coach of the year twice. So far from just, as you say making a statement by appointing her because she is a woman, imo she has more than enough credentials to do it. But it’s probably the fear of her being successful & misogyny of players that will prevent it happening. So she has absolute zero experience in the men's game and she should be considered for the biggest job in the country Run the daft comment by me again !
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Post by independent on Nov 22, 2023 16:37:10 GMT
Maybe it is getting better. But with crowds like those below, it is questionable whether the interest is growing as fast as you would like to think. Those 2 games would have had combined maximum gate money of about £17k, the equivelent of 850 fans at a Stoke City game in the cheapest seats and we aren't even in the top division. Nov 5: West Ham vs Bristol City, Attendance: 791 Nov 19: Everton 2-2 Bristol City, Attendance: 886 We keep hearing about the record attendances at particular games but we don't hear about the poorly attended games. The 6 games on Nov.5th last had a Total attendance of 15,477 with an Average of 2,580 The 6 games on Nov.12th last had a Total attendance of 19,759 Average of 3,293 Stoke City's last home game had: Attendance: 23,089 and it wasn't £8/£10 in. Hopefully the WSL will take off but the idea that people will jump on any bandwagon may not actually be true. The "it's getting better" comment related to the quality of the games. From what I have seen they are significantly better in terms of skill, athleticism and tactical awareness than they were 10 years ago - which is more than I can say for Stoke. With regard to attendances let them go their own way - there are plenty of elite sports that don't get massive crowds other than for major tournaments. Comparing them to men's football in that respect us bonkers. Not many - if any - sports compare to the popularity of mens football. I just find it tiresome every time there's a thread on women's football the usual tropes come out of 'boring', 'dog chasing a balloon', rather watch grass grow' 'if they had a bloke in goals every game would be nil-nil' and 'pitches and goals should be smaller' - usually from people who hsve no interest in it and even if changes were made would still queue up to stick the boot in. They were banned by men's football for half a century, largely because women's football was seen as a threat and they've got some catching up to do. Give 'em a break and let them find their own way. That is not why they were banned. Also the American women only started playing football less than 50 years ago and managed to win World Cups without any help from the men's game. I would agree that the standard of the football has greatly improved but I think the standard would improve even more with a slightly smaller pitch and ball. You only have to see the injury inflicted by a shot from a transgender, who is now being boycotted in Yorkshire, to see the difference in strength between the sexes. The women are rightly looking for equipment (Boots) that suit their bodies and it is wrong to expect them to play with an unsuitable size Pitch, Ball and Goals.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Nov 22, 2023 16:59:36 GMT
The "it's getting better" comment related to the quality of the games. From what I have seen they are significantly better in terms of skill, athleticism and tactical awareness than they were 10 years ago - which is more than I can say for Stoke. With regard to attendances let them go their own way - there are plenty of elite sports that don't get massive crowds other than for major tournaments. Comparing them to men's football in that respect us bonkers. Not many - if any - sports compare to the popularity of mens football. I just find it tiresome every time there's a thread on women's football the usual tropes come out of 'boring', 'dog chasing a balloon', rather watch grass grow' 'if they had a bloke in goals every game would be nil-nil' and 'pitches and goals should be smaller' - usually from people who hsve no interest in it and even if changes were made would still queue up to stick the boot in. They were banned by men's football for half a century, largely because women's football was seen as a threat and they've got some catching up to do. Give 'em a break and let them find their own way. That is not why they were banned. Also the American women only started playing football less than 50 years ago and managed to win World Cups without any help from the men's game. I would agree that the standard of the football has greatly improved but I think the standard would improve even more with a slightly smaller pitch and ball. You only have to see the injury inflicted by a shot from a transgender, who is now being boycotted in Yorkshire, to see the difference in strength between the sexes. The women are rightly looking for equipment (Boots) that suit their bodies and it is wrong to expect them to play with an unsuitable size Pitch, Ball and Goals. It largely is the reason it was banned (and because the money being made wasn't under the control of the FA). The lazy (and incorrect) idea that the FA banned it for medical reasons, that is often trotted out, is completely untrue and a myth based on a few countries that DID use that as a reason. SOME countries (Belgium and Brazil, for instance) banned it due to "medical concerns" i.e. the possibility of such a rough game affecting those baby producing machines that some call "women" (the horror eh? Can't let these women come to their own decisions, thank god there were men around to do it for them!) However, the FA never ONCE gave any reasoning other than it being "unsuitable" for women. The full conclusion of the FA Consultative committee was: “Complaints having been made as to football being played by women, Council felt impelled to express the strong opinion that the game of football is quite unsuitable for females and should not be encouraged. Complaints have also been made as to the conditions under which some of the matches have been arranged and played, and the appropriation of receipts to other than charitable objects. The Council are further of the opinion that an excessive proportion of the receipts are absorbed in expenses and an inadequate percentage devoted to charitable objects. “For these reasons the Council requests the Clubs belonging to the Association refuse the use of their grounds for such matches.” Can people please stop trotting out this "it was medical reasons" bullshit? That was a few countries around the world NOT the FA.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 22, 2023 17:04:38 GMT
The "it's getting better" comment related to the quality of the games. From what I have seen they are significantly better in terms of skill, athleticism and tactical awareness than they were 10 years ago - which is more than I can say for Stoke. With regard to attendances let them go their own way - there are plenty of elite sports that don't get massive crowds other than for major tournaments. Comparing them to men's football in that respect us bonkers. Not many - if any - sports compare to the popularity of mens football. I just find it tiresome every time there's a thread on women's football the usual tropes come out of 'boring', 'dog chasing a balloon', rather watch grass grow' 'if they had a bloke in goals every game would be nil-nil' and 'pitches and goals should be smaller' - usually from people who hsve no interest in it and even if changes were made would still queue up to stick the boot in. They were banned by men's football for half a century, largely because women's football was seen as a threat and they've got some catching up to do. Give 'em a break and let them find their own way. That is not why they were banned. Also the American women only started playing football less than 50 years ago and managed to win World Cups without any help from the men's game. I would agree that the standard of the football has greatly improved but I think the standard would improve even more with a slightly smaller pitch and ball. You only have to see the injury inflicted by a shot from a transgender, who is now being boycotted in Yorkshire, to see the difference in strength between the sexes. The women are rightly looking for equipment (Boots) that suit their bodies and it is wrong to expect them to play with an unsuitable size Pitch, Ball and Goals. "FA ban (1921–1970) Players and football writers have argued that this ban was due to envy of the large crowds that women's matches attracted, and because the FA had no control over the money made from the women's game. Dick, Kerr Ladies player Alice Barlow said, "we could only put it down to jealousy". As for size of pitches etc YOU may think they would benefit but do THEY? And who says it's 'wrong'. You or them? It's time we stopped patronising them and allowed them to develop their own game as they see fit
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Post by independent on Nov 22, 2023 17:46:50 GMT
That is not why they were banned. Also the American women only started playing football less than 50 years ago and managed to win World Cups without any help from the men's game. I would agree that the standard of the football has greatly improved but I think the standard would improve even more with a slightly smaller pitch and ball. You only have to see the injury inflicted by a shot from a transgender, who is now being boycotted in Yorkshire, to see the difference in strength between the sexes. The women are rightly looking for equipment (Boots) that suit their bodies and it is wrong to expect them to play with an unsuitable size Pitch, Ball and Goals. "FA ban (1921–1970) Players and football writers have argued that this ban was due to envy of the large crowds that women's matches attracted, and because the FA had no control over the money made from the women's game. Dick, Kerr Ladies player Alice Barlow said, "we could only put it down to jealousy". As for size of pitches etc YOU may think they would benefit but do THEY?
And who says it's 'wrong'. You or them?It's time we stopped patronising them and allowed them to develop their own game as they see fit I'm sure they would benefit as they are already complaining about their workload,fatigue and ensuing injuries. If they had their own pitches, I think it would already have happened. As you almost say " Let them develop their own game and stop slavishly apeing the Men's Game". The FA said " It was unsuitable for Women and that apparently some of the proceeds were being stolen and not applied to the designated Charities".
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 22, 2023 18:01:54 GMT
"FA ban (1921–1970) Players and football writers have argued that this ban was due to envy of the large crowds that women's matches attracted, and because the FA had no control over the money made from the women's game. Dick, Kerr Ladies player Alice Barlow said, "we could only put it down to jealousy". As for size of pitches etc YOU may think they would benefit but do THEY?
And who says it's 'wrong'. You or them?It's time we stopped patronising them and allowed them to develop their own game as they see fit I'm sure they would benefit as they are already complaining about their workload,fatigue and ensuing injuries. If they had their own pitches, I think it would already have happened. As you almost say " Let them develop their own game and stop slavishly apeing the Men's Game". The FA said " It was unsuitable for Women and that apparently some of the proceeds were being stolen and not applied to the designated Charities". The Men gave been moaning about work load fatigue and injuries for decades. Perhaps they too would benefit from smaller pitches?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 22, 2023 18:06:45 GMT
I'm sure they would benefit as they are already complaining about their workload,fatigue and ensuing injuries. If they had their own pitches, I think it would already have happened. As you almost say " Let them develop their own game and stop slavishly apeing the Men's Game". The FA said " It was unsuitable for Women and that apparently some of the proceeds were being stolen and not applied to the designated Charities". The Men gave been moaning about work load fatigue and injuries for decades. Perhaps they too would benefit from smaller pitches? I think the men would benefit from not being such a bunch of moaning, whiny fannies.
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