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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2023 19:03:03 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers
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Post by knype on Jan 16, 2023 19:15:46 GMT
More disruption for the kids who have suffered so much with the remote learning during covid
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Post by milton58 on Jan 16, 2023 19:29:44 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers it's the way this country is heading everybody no matter there job roles have had enough of been taken advantage of off this shit house of a fucking corrupt government who have made alot of there own even more wealthier...
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 16, 2023 19:32:06 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 19:33:27 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers it's the way this country is heading everybody no matter there job roles have had enough of been taken advantage of off this shit house of a fucking corrupt government who have made alot of there own even more wealthier... Fair enough the govt are a shambles but what about the kids missing out on there education. Collateral damage? Isn’t teaching a vocation not just a job.
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Post by knype on Jan 16, 2023 19:43:41 GMT
Teachers teaching them would help them more.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 19:46:28 GMT
it's the way this country is heading everybody no matter there job roles have had enough of been taken advantage of off this shit house of a fucking corrupt government who have made alot of there own even more wealthier... Fair enough the govt are a shambles but what about the kids missing out on there education. Collateral damage? Isn’t teaching a vocation not just a job. No its a job. A desperately important job where those engaing in it are much worse off than they were over a decade ago. Solidarity with every sinlge one of them.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 19:48:53 GMT
Fair enough the govt are a shambles but what about the kids missing out on there education. Collateral damage? Isn’t teaching a vocation not just a job. No its a job. A desperately important job where those engaing in it are much worse off than they were over a decade ago. Solidarity with every sinlge one of them. What about the kids? If i was a parent and my kids were being taught by someone who just looked on there role as a “job” Id be dissapointed. I know a lot of teachers some of whom I’d class as friends thankfully they look on it as so much more than just a job. A lot of them don’t really want to strike from what they’ve told be but will probably end up doing so.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 19:50:35 GMT
No its a job. A desperately important job where those engaing in it are much worse off than they were over a decade ago. Solidarity with every sinlge one of them. What about the kids? So what about the Government? Always looking to blame the wrong people.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 16, 2023 19:53:49 GMT
My ex teaches. Most of her mates who went into teaching burned out and have quit already, she's probably going to quit as well.
There's all this extra paperwork the government makes her do and with crazy rent and a salary that's hardly grown she's in her 30s and can only afford to rent a spare room in someone's house.
It's fucking grim being a teacher.
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Post by henry on Jan 16, 2023 19:54:42 GMT
Take the kids out of school for a few days for a family holiday and you are supposedly setting their education back decades.
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Post by questionable on Jan 16, 2023 19:55:27 GMT
It’s no wonder when this corrupt government is continually in the news for daylight robbery, Boris putting £4455 on s government credit card for lunch feeding his fat horrible face. Sunak taking s private jet to Nottingham and to top it all ex chancellor whatever his name is now agrees to pay £3,000,000 in tax, no jail time.
The sooner we get rid of this government the better, not a chance we can leave them running the country until next year.
The whole country will be on strike mainly due us all despising the scum that are conservatives
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 19:59:28 GMT
So what about the Government? Always looking to blame the wrong people. Not me. They’re accountable of course they are but equally important are those caught in the crossfire. I’d rather they have more visible peaceful protests than strikes. I think if the numbers of those protesting were high they’d get more support as like it or not those affected by the strikes personally won’t be happy.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 20:06:13 GMT
So what about the Government? Always looking to blame the wrong people. Not me. They’re accountable of course they are but equally important are those caught in the crossfire. I’d rather they have more visible peaceful protests than strikes. I think if the numbers of those protesting were high they’d get more support as like it or not those affected by the strikes personally won’t be happy. It's actually quite charming that you feel 'peaceful protests' will have any influence with the evil bastards currently running/ruining this country
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 20:08:32 GMT
Not me. They’re accountable of course they are but equally important are those caught in the crossfire. I’d rather they have more visible peaceful protests than strikes. I think if the numbers of those protesting were high they’d get more support as like it or not those affected by the strikes personally won’t be happy. It's actually quite charming that you feel 'peaceful protests' will have any influence with the evil bastards currently running/ruining this country Thanks. I just happen to think 100000 people protesting peacefully in London in there time is more visual to the media and the public than people taking the off or a handful standing outside there place of work and will get the public more on there side than smashing up some shops or setting fire to cars.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 20:11:21 GMT
It's actually quite charming that you feel 'peaceful protests' will have any influence with the evil bastards currently running/ruining this country Thanks Pleasure. Should have added wilfully naive as well to be fair though!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 20:13:22 GMT
Pleasure. Should have added wilfully naive as well to be fair though! that’s more like it
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 16, 2023 20:13:40 GMT
My ex teaches. Most of her mates who went into teaching burned out and have quit already, she's probably going to quit as well. There's all this extra paperwork the government makes her do and with crazy rent and a salary that's hardly grown she's in her 30s and can only afford to rent a spare room in someone's house. It's fucking grim being a teacher. As someone who has worked in education for the best part of a decade (in various roles) I would echo much of this. The wages are not necessarily as glamorous as people think. The workload is far, far more than people think. I am sure there was a survey done last year where half of current teachers planned to quit the profession within five years. The fact that lots of teachers see it as "more than just a job" does not mean that they should just be walked all over.
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 16, 2023 20:18:53 GMT
Deals will be made eventually but tax rises across the board are inevitable imo to pay for everything so it'll be giving with one hand and then taking with the other.
Labour will be inheriting a mess in 2024. Starmer is already dampening expectations.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 16, 2023 20:28:19 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers Sounds great. I wonder why they keep spending all that money on TV adverts trying to get more people to do it?
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 20:30:26 GMT
Deals will be made eventually but tax rises across the board are inevitable imo to pay for everything so it'll be giving with one hand and then taking with the other. Labour will be inheriting a mess in 2024. Starmer is already dampening expectations. Who do you think will take the real biggest burden tax wise?
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Post by swampmongrel on Jan 16, 2023 20:31:01 GMT
My ex teaches. Most of her mates who went into teaching burned out and have quit already, she's probably going to quit as well. There's all this extra paperwork the government makes her do and with crazy rent and a salary that's hardly grown she's in her 30s and can only afford to rent a spare room in someone's house. It's fucking grim being a teacher. Not sure about the workload but the salaries don’t look too bad. Especially, if you stick with it and take into account pension benefits. A teachers salary would do OK against housing in Staffordshire wouldn’t it? Not that I’d ever consider it. Too many fucking kids!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2023 20:43:31 GMT
Pleasure. Should have added wilfully naive as well to be fair though! What do you thinks the best course of action then? and how would you expect it to play out?
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Post by stuammo on Jan 16, 2023 20:45:00 GMT
My ex teaches. Most of her mates who went into teaching burned out and have quit already, she's probably going to quit as well. There's all this extra paperwork the government makes her do and with crazy rent and a salary that's hardly grown she's in her 30s and can only afford to rent a spare room in someone's house. It's fucking grim being a teacher. Not sure about the workload but the salaries don’t look too bad. Especially, if you stick with it and take into account pension benefits. A teachers salary would do OK against housing in Staffordshire wouldn’t it? Not that I’d ever consider it. Too many fucking kids! A lot of salaries look better in Staffordshire and in particular stoke on Trent however we aren’t talking about regional strikes. This is a National issue and just because stoke has a relatively cheap or cheaper cost of living doesn’t mean we shouldn’t back this national action. Enough is enough in lots of public sector jobs. Time to recognise the work of public sector workers
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Post by swampmongrel on Jan 16, 2023 20:54:37 GMT
Not sure about the workload but the salaries don’t look too bad. Especially, if you stick with it and take into account pension benefits. A teachers salary would do OK against housing in Staffordshire wouldn’t it? Not that I’d ever consider it. Too many fucking kids! A lot of salaries look better in Staffordshire and in particular stoke on Trent however we aren’t talking about regional strikes. This is a National issue and just because stoke has a relatively cheap or cheaper cost of living doesn’t mean we shouldn’t back this national action. Enough is enough in lots of public sector jobs. Time to recognise the work of public sector workers I'm not really for or against teachers (or any public sector workers) striking. Eventually public sector pay will land at the point required to attract and keep the required personnel. Everythings a bit messed up at the moment owing to inflation. It just seems like an OK career (if you like kids). You can pretty much work anywhere in the country and you're exceedingly unlikely to get made redundant.If I was a London based teacher I definitely wouldn't be hanging around the South East.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jan 16, 2023 21:08:55 GMT
Pleasure. Should have added wilfully naive as well to be fair though! What do you thinks the best course of action then? and how would you expect it to play out? Value key workers. Don't give 7 Billion to bankers, distribute it elsewhere. There really is more than enough money about. Its about choices. My biggest gripe with your posts and the battles you seem to want to fight though Cobbers is that you never seem see this as a problem but teachers you seem to want to work as a form of charity!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 16, 2023 21:11:17 GMT
Pleasure. Should have added wilfully naive as well to be fair though! What do you thinks the best course of action then? and how would you expect it to play out?
One in six teachers currently quit within 12 months of qualifying.
A third of teachers leave within 5 years of qualifying.
Nearly 50% of teachers currently employed are hoping to leave the profession within the next 5 years.
What do you think is the best way to address this problem ... tell them all to go on a march?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 16, 2023 21:29:30 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers Badgers are alllwaaays on holiday, sheesh 🙄
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2023 21:31:57 GMT
What do you thinks the best course of action then? and how would you expect it to play out?
One in six teachers currently quit within 12 months of qualifying.
A third of teachers leave within 5 years of qualifying.
Nearly 50% of teachers currently employed are hoping to leave the profession within the next 5 years.
What do you think is the best way to address this problem ... tell them all to go on a march?
They were quite happy reaping the rewards of the ridiculous furlough scheme. Bit oh no they actually have to go to work now. Ridiculous, give em a big pay rise so they can do the same again in 12 months. The private sector are told no to pay rises and that’s it and these are the people who worked through Covid to keep the economy going
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2023 21:33:13 GMT
Jesus wept. Don’t these people realise how lucky they are to be in a well paid job with more holidays than Judith Chalmers Badgers are alllwaaays on holiday, sheesh 🙄 Unless they’re terrorising one of your made up sites 😉
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