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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 17, 2022 10:32:25 GMT
Next to go under?
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Post by chuffedstokie on Mar 17, 2022 10:56:29 GMT
The age of the booze cruise is well and truly over.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 17, 2022 11:25:40 GMT
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 17, 2022 11:36:52 GMT
I expect a lot of this in the next few months. This country and the world in general is in a total mess and unfortunately there will be casualties. A lot of companies were just about hanging on pre Covid…but the lockdowns and lack of customers finished them off. Now we have the Ukraine problem and crazy fuel prices…there is little confidence in the public for a lot of things at present and I fear we will lose a lot of companies very soon.
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Post by richie22 on Mar 17, 2022 12:02:48 GMT
Currently sat in the truck in the que to get thru passport control at Dover, those security staff I have spoken to during this long wait are sticking to the line of ‘the crews have all been made redundant and are to be replaced by crews from the far east’ I cannot offer up any further info on this matter other than it’s chaos , their ships are birthed on the old hover port area of the port. Good news is it’s a glorious day down here
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 12:17:43 GMT
So it's essentially fire and rehire tactics? Could have sworn that Johnson stated in Parliament he was putting and end to this practice.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 12:25:59 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 17, 2022 13:00:36 GMT
Disgraceful conduct from DP World.
A good test of our Government’s ability to act on scandalous behaviour from a large company.
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Post by steve66 on Mar 17, 2022 13:26:39 GMT
800 staff to be sacked/replaced otherwise going under, 100 million £ losses since pandemic and only kept going by parent company so far 😂
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Post by Boothen on Mar 17, 2022 13:31:00 GMT
How is it even legal to just up and sack 800 staff and then replace them with cheap foreign labour? Surely that falls under unfair & constructive dismissal.
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Post by Northy on Mar 17, 2022 13:48:13 GMT
How is it even legal to just up and sack 800 staff and then replace them with cheap foreign labour? Surely that falls under unfair & constructive dismissal. I thought it was illegal, you couldn't employ someone in a position for 2 years if someone was made redundant ?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 17, 2022 13:51:37 GMT
Presumably P&O or their parent company have looked into it and decided it's all legal.
Free market capitalism in full effect. Be careful what you vote for, basically. These things are not just random events.
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Post by Northy on Mar 17, 2022 13:57:04 GMT
Presumably P&O or their parent company have looked into it and decided it's all legal. Free market capitalism in full effect. Be careful what you vote for, basically. These things are not just random events. You can claim unfair dismissal if someone is employed in your position after redundancy, not sure they will want 1500 unfair dismissal cases going on?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 17, 2022 14:20:22 GMT
Presumably P&O or their parent company have looked into it and decided it's all legal. Free market capitalism in full effect. Be careful what you vote for, basically. These things are not just random events. You can claim unfair dismissal if someone is employed in your position after redundancy, not sure they will want 1500 unfair dismissal cases going on? I would've thought so yes. Presumably, the role is re-graded or altered in some way so that it's not a simple fire and re-hire job, but who knows what is the actual story.
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Post by richie22 on Mar 17, 2022 14:23:19 GMT
Not sure if it has bearing on there situation but all the boats were re-registered in Limassol recently as oppose to what was London … I have no idea on the situation but would this be legal in under uk law.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 17, 2022 14:38:52 GMT
As an aside P&O's parent company Dubai Ports (sovreign wealth) also own the first of our Brexit flagship "freeports" - London Gateway.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 14:50:24 GMT
Not sure if it has bearing on there situation but all the boats were re-registered in Limassol recently as oppose to what was London … I have no idea on the situation but would this be legal in under uk law. This or something like it is apparently the reason they can attempt to do this.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 14:51:38 GMT
Reports that staff on the boats refusing to move are being escorted off by private security firms. Using handcuffs.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 14:52:54 GMT
800 staff to be sacked/replaced otherwise going under, 100 million £ losses since pandemic and only kept going by parent company so far 😂 They did apparently take Covid relief money I understand. Edit: 33 million quid
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 14:55:19 GMT
Reports that staff on the boats refusing to move are being escorted off by private security firms. Using handcuffs.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 14:58:12 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 15:26:15 GMT
Absolutely appalling.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 15:27:21 GMT
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Post by richie22 on Mar 17, 2022 15:29:15 GMT
There not running at full pelt yet. It’s refit season , full service usually begins at around Easter , the first big ‘holiday’ I think they’re on a four boat service with one of there spirits in annual refit . Also note there first of two brand new ferry’s which they anticipate will revolutionise the route and shorten the transit time is expected to arrive very soon. Three of theirs are moored up , it’s widely known the crew are refusing to budge. I hope they do as the French did way back in 2015 with the collapse of My Ferry Link (sea France) they occupied the ships and set about wrecking them , including pouring cement into engines etc and drains … the ships were out for months . What P&O have done here is absolutely dusgusting
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 17, 2022 15:30:24 GMT
How is it even legal to just up and sack 800 staff and then replace them with cheap foreign labour? Surely that falls under unfair & constructive dismissal. Im pretty sure they would be under either an ITF or ILO maritime contract so would covered through the Maritime Labour Convention codes. I worked in this industry for years and its a proper minefield. ( I wasnt a pot washer before anyone asks )
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 15:37:07 GMT
How is it even legal to just up and sack 800 staff and then replace them with cheap foreign labour? Surely that falls under unfair & constructive dismissal. Im pretty sure they would be under either an ITF or ILO maritime contract so would covered through the Maritime Labour Convention codes. I worked in this industry for years and its a proper minefield. ( I wasnt a pot washer before anyone asks ) Yep, I think that's the case. (Not that you were a pot washer mate )
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 17, 2022 16:01:29 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 16:06:14 GMT
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Post by Northy on Mar 17, 2022 16:08:44 GMT
Just been in contact with an old colleague of mine who is a senior engineer with P&O and he has been made redundant
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 17, 2022 16:13:50 GMT
Just been in contact with an old colleague of mine who is a senior engineer with P&O and he has been made redundant Bloody disgusting.
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