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Post by wannabee on Mar 25, 2022 0:34:11 GMT
How are you going to enforce uk law in dubai then mate ? Are you going to criminalise firing people too because otherwise I see a simple way around your fire and rehire law just dont rehire. You have a company losing £100m a year not sure you can bring in a law to force them to continue operating at that level, this company have been able to do this because this part of the operation is covered by maritime law not uk employmemt law so they can in the future pay £1.50 an hour they can't do that for anyone who works in the uk only those who work at sea. It's not about espousing a race to bottom or wanting aspirations and higher values it's recognising its not the law that could force a change on this its the massive reputational damage p&o are incurring, if customers start cancelling they might reconsider. Well mate, P&O is a UK Registered PLC with 6 current active directors resident in UK. No need at all to seek legal recourse in Dubai Your simple solution is flawed because the alternative of a UK PLC if not rehire is liquidation if it doesn't have employees to operate. I doubt if the 800 sailors that were made redundant would shed too many tears. P&O incurred losses of £38M in 2019 and £85M in 2020, no figures have yet been published for 2021 but are expected to approach £100M The decline in trading (Turnover) is mainly attributed to a) Covid and b) The "B" word Brexit in particular the decline in imports/Exports between UK/EU on Hull/Rotterdam route and ROI much less using UK as land bridge. Of course any company experiencing unsustainable losses has a right and indeed a duty to put in place a restructuring that will allow it to trade sustainably into the future. There are legal procedures in place to give protection to the Company and its employees via the Unions for this to take place. P&O have simply decided to ride roughshod over this and seem willing to accept the Financial penalties. I agree enormous reputational damage will be done to P&O Brand ... I wonder if a change of name is imminent Regarding BII's Joint Venture with DP World you are conflating two different things. I posed that it was at least unwise for BII to use UK Taxpayers Money to enter a Joint Venture with the ultimate decision makers in this P&O debacle to avoid a very likely reputational damage to UK down the line. You countered this by saying if not UK then China as an example could take UK's place. I see this as Straw Man Argument and contend, perhaps naively as I acknowledged, that a majority of British people would concur with my opinion Clearly you do not, and which in my opinion iwould be a debasement of British values and indeed a race to the bottom Hello Mate, Do you still think if the Law made Hire and Rehire a criminal offence that P&O CEO Peter Hepplewaite would brazenly and sneeringly tell a House of Commons Committee that P&O broke the law and would pay up any fines and compensation
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 25, 2022 7:49:45 GMT
I wonder what will happen to the board who took the decision whilst knowing it was prohibited by law.
I wonder if tax payers will continue lining the pockets of the Dubai owners with the freeports? Of course we will, because this government doesn’t give a damn about sacked P&O staff and will continue funnelling away tax payers money to foreign enterprises who pay pennies to employees, rather than supporting British companies and employees. I thought that was supposed to be the upside of Brexit?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 25, 2022 19:19:06 GMT
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Post by superjw on Mar 26, 2022 11:07:44 GMT
Reports that a P&O vessel has been seized in Northern Ireland after failing a safety inspection in port.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 27, 2022 14:02:34 GMT
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 27, 2022 18:53:57 GMT
Should use the ferry’s to bring the asylum seekers over from France 850 tried to cross yesterday with 400 making it to the U.K. , it’s only a matter of time before there are fatalities again , at least it would be safer this way Whatever happened to Hovercrafts? Do they exist any more? Dust a few of them off. Those huge hovercraft were so noisy…my Aunt lived in Deal…a few miles away from the Hoverport…and me and my family spent a lot of time down there in summer…when they started their engines you could hear it clearly in Deal. I got the chance to travel on one about 32 years ago on a trip to France…can’t remember a lot about it except the noise lol.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Mar 28, 2022 18:30:34 GMT
Grant shapps has found his balls.
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Post by Northy on Mar 29, 2022 16:59:27 GMT
Someone can't spell their 🤨
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