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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2021 16:42:52 GMT
Laughing G might have his foibles but a troll, nah!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 19, 2021 16:53:50 GMT
Laughing G might have his foibles but a troll, nah! Leave my foibles out of this.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2021 17:20:53 GMT
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 20, 2021 0:14:47 GMT
Pointless the jab, you still transmit and get sick anyways. I guess you feel a little better socially afterwards and can look down on others who have chosen differently. The athletes aren't going to increase their chances of blood clots and heart issues over a virus with 99% survival rate. They've made that quite clear.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2021 0:51:34 GMT
Pointless the jab, you still transmit and get sick anyways. I guess you feel a little better socially afterwards and can look down on others who have chosen differently. The athletes aren't going to increase their chances of blood clots and heart issues over a virus with 99% survival rate. They've made that quite clear. What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab.
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 20, 2021 1:06:27 GMT
Pointless the jab, you still transmit and get sick anyways. I guess you feel a little better socially afterwards and can look down on others who have chosen differently. The athletes aren't going to increase their chances of blood clots and heart issues over a virus with 99% survival rate. They've made that quite clear. What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. The vaccine literally does nothing for transmission, infact, omicron is transmitting more in the double jabbed community and even with a booster than the unvaccinated according to the CDC. The vaccinated are now getting covid in NYC where there is over 80% fully vaccination rate. 1 in 3 has it apparently. There are over 30 different new spike proteins not covered in any jab's antibodies. With omicron Your chances of dying from covid marginally decrease to 99.3% from 99.7% for the first two jabs. The more "likely" is fractions of a percentage for half of those lol Omicron is even less likely to hospitalize you. You're going to get hospitalized if you're unhealthy as in having underlying health conditions. 18-30 year old athletes aren't likely to get blood clots or heart rhythm issues normally so it is pedantic to even force the healthiest people on the planet into a forced jab that has no chance. This isn't about health it is all about money and control. Quit acting like petty tyrants and let people get on with their lives. Nobody does this shit for the millions of people that died of pnuemonia this year without testing postive for Covid at all, but apparently for Covid we become mini hitlers. Madness.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 20, 2021 1:21:41 GMT
Pointless the jab, you still transmit and get sick anyways. I guess you feel a little better socially afterwards and can look down on others who have chosen differently. The athletes aren't going to increase their chances of blood clots and heart issues over a virus with 99% survival rate. They've made that quite clear. What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. I'll pass on your views to my close mate when & hopefully if he leaves ICU sometime soon. Six hours after having his Booster Vax he suffered a bleed on the brain & got rushed to hospital. He's been on the stroke ward & in ICU for the past month encountering both surgery & being placed on life support equipment. I'm hearing so many similar stories that are not getting reported on anywhere but its happening more regularly than people think & if people don't think it is or can see the clear link they're walking around blinkered & believing everything the MSM are informing them about which is really quite scary!
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 20, 2021 1:35:21 GMT
What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. I'll pass on your views to my close mate when & hopefully if he leaves ICU sometime soon. Six hours after having his Booster Vax he suffered a bleed on the brain & got rushed to hospital. He's been on the stroke ward & in ICU for the past month encountering both surgery & being placed on life support equipment. I'm hearing so many similar stories that are not getting reported on anywhere but its happening more regularly than people think & if people don't think it is or see the clear link they're walking around blinkered & believing everything the MSM are informing them about which is really quite scary! Sorry to hear that. Horrible that. All the best there mate. I have high blood pressure due to a rare condition and my doctor advised against the jab here in the states because of the unknown cardiology around it 9 months ago. He said If I do get the jab to not drink alcohol for weeks and avoid overexertion. That was a no go for me in lockdown ahaha. I'm glad I didn't get the jab but also, I hate seeing forcing people into huge health decisions like this. I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti forced mandating of it. I recently had delta in November it kicked my ass, in-fact, I still have a cough and nasal congestion from time to time. I used a neti-pot with salt and hydrogen peroxide followed with a mouthwash from my doctor. Key is watching your blood oxygen levels. It helped me go from bad to good in two weeks. For the "potential" increase from stroke or clots from having covid, I'm taking a generic asprin daily. I know somewhere a pfizer executive is adding me to some list. That is my unique story but others like this just make me sad. As do others who are getting really sick thought they were invincible from this engineered thing. We won't be clear of it for a long time until immunity goes way up.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 20, 2021 2:14:48 GMT
I'll pass on your views to my close mate when & hopefully if he leaves ICU sometime soon. Six hours after having his Booster Vax he suffered a bleed on the brain & got rushed to hospital. He's been on the stroke ward & in ICU for the past month encountering both surgery & being placed on life support equipment. I'm hearing so many similar stories that are not getting reported on anywhere but its happening more regularly than people think & if people don't think it is or see the clear link they're walking around blinkered & believing everything the MSM are informing them about which is really quite scary! Sorry to hear that. Horrible that. All the best there mate. I have high blood pressure due to a rare condition and my doctor advised against the jab here in the states because of the unknown cardiology around it 9 months ago. He said If I do get the jab to not drink alcohol for weeks and avoid overexertion. That was a no go for me in lockdown ahaha. I'm glad I didn't get the jab but also, I hate seeing forcing people into huge health decisions like this. I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti forced mandating of it. I recently had delta in November it kicked my ass, in-fact, I still have a cough and nasal congestion from time to time. I used a neti-pot with salt and hydrogen peroxide followed with a mouthwash from my doctor. Key is watching your blood oxygen levels. It helped me go from bad to good in two weeks. For the "potential" increase from stroke or clots from having covid, I'm taking a generic asprin daily. I know somewhere a pfizer executive is adding me to some list. That is my unique story but others like this just make me sad. As do others who are getting really sick thought they were invincible from this engineered thing. We won't be clear of it for a long time until immunity goes way up. Cheers pal. Interesting to hear your account on this also, and the differing variations and combinations the whole effects of Covid and also the vaccinations are inflicting people with. I'm also not anti vax or a covid denier in the slightest. I think the vaccine does have its uses and there is a positive aspect to it but nobody should be forced to take it, its got to the point over here whereby you're facing your liberty being stripped from you if you so choose to not take the vaccine, thats never right.. I honestly believe that as much as everyone is individual to make their own choice on whether to take the vaccine, the potential effects that actually getting Covid aswell as receiving the vaccine are all unique to people's individual DNA, make up and possibly even blood group aswell as each person's own suitability. People are getting a wide ranging outcome from actually having Covid as they are in some cases getting bad reactions to the jab. The fact Covid affects some people to the extend they don't even know they have it, through to being hospitalised is proof of its varying scale. When entering a restaurant for a meal nowadays you get asked if you have any allergies or dietary requirements for obvious and important reasons. Companies have come unstuck before by not taking simple precautions and it's sadly cost people their lives. But you never get asked questions regarding your suitability for the vaccine when attending the centres & I think alot more emphasis is urgently required when deciding on someone's suitability for the jab. The jab by it's make up is not going to be suitable for each and every person yet it's portrayed as the jab everyone needs and should get urgently. The amount of coronary & brain induced bleed issues following vaccines is a concern that people really need to wake up to. As rare and unfortunate as some people say they are (I actually believe the true figures could be horrendous), if your the person taking a jab as being advised to do for your own good aswell as those around you and end up getting a clot related illness as a direct result, you certainly won't be feeling as though its rare or unfortunate when having to endure heart or brain surgery! Everyone's unique & should be treated as such. Non vaccinated folk should respect the wishes and reasons that those who want to take it have. Aswell as the vaccinated having the same respect for non vaccinated people who may have very real reasons or experiences as to why they don't wish to, or can't take it. No-ones been made or forced to take any other vaccine in the past in this country, nor 'discriminated' against if they dont or can't take it, this should be no different.
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 20, 2021 3:15:08 GMT
Sorry to hear that. Horrible that. All the best there mate. I have high blood pressure due to a rare condition and my doctor advised against the jab here in the states because of the unknown cardiology around it 9 months ago. He said If I do get the jab to not drink alcohol for weeks and avoid overexertion. That was a no go for me in lockdown ahaha. I'm glad I didn't get the jab but also, I hate seeing forcing people into huge health decisions like this. I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti forced mandating of it. I recently had delta in November it kicked my ass, in-fact, I still have a cough and nasal congestion from time to time. I used a neti-pot with salt and hydrogen peroxide followed with a mouthwash from my doctor. Key is watching your blood oxygen levels. It helped me go from bad to good in two weeks. For the "potential" increase from stroke or clots from having covid, I'm taking a generic asprin daily. I know somewhere a pfizer executive is adding me to some list. That is my unique story but others like this just make me sad. As do others who are getting really sick thought they were invincible from this engineered thing. We won't be clear of it for a long time until immunity goes way up. Cheers pal. Interesting to hear your account on this also, and the differing variations and combinations the whole effects of Covid and also the vaccinations are inflicting people with. I'm also not anti vax or a covid denier in the slightest. I think the vaccine does have its uses and there is a positive aspect to it but nobody should be forced to take it, its got to the point over here whereby you're facing your liberty being stripped from you if you so choose to not take the vaccine, thats never right.. I honestly believe that as much as everyone is individual to make their own choice on whether to take the vaccine, the potential effects that actually getting Covid aswell as receiving the vaccine are all unique to people's individual DNA, make up and possibly even blood group aswell as each person's own suitability. People are getting a wide ranging outcome from actually having Covid as they are in some cases getting bad reactions to the jab. The fact Covid affects some people to the extend they don't even know they have it, through to being hospitalised is proof of its varying scale. When entering a restaurant for a meal nowadays you get asked if you have any allergies or dietary requirements for obvious and important reasons. Companies have come unstuck before by not taking simple precautions and it's sadly cost people their lives. But you never get asked questions regarding your suitability for the vaccine when attending the centres & I think alot more emphasis is urgently required when deciding on someone's suitability for the jab. The jab by it's make up is not going to be suitable for each and every person yet it's portrayed as the jab everyone needs and should get urgently. The amount of coronary & brain induced bleed issues following vaccines is a concern that people really need to wake up to. As rare and unfortunate as some people say they are (I actually believe the true figures could be horrendous), if your the person taking a jab as being advised to do for your own good aswell as those around you and end up getting a clot related illness as a direct result, you certainly won't be feeling as though its rare or unfortunate when having to endure heart or brain surgery! Everyone's unique & should be treated as such. Non vaccinated folk should respect the wishes and reasons that those who want to take it have. Aswell as the vaccinated having the same respect for non vaccinated people who may have very real reasons or experiences as to why they don't wish to, or can't take it. No-ones been made or forced to take any other vaccine in the past in this country, nor 'discriminated' against if they dont or can't take it, this should be no different. I've always said the only thing we are losing in all of this is our humanity. You seem a decent bloke and I share the same sentiment re the lack of suitability and knowledge around the side effects of having had covid and possible issues from the jab also. Nobody can still tell me why I still can't taste or smell half of what I used too. Not even the lead doctor with 30 years experience at a nasal clinic here who worked on the bloody jab at john hopkins medical center can tell you an outcome on it, just "likely," I despise that word. Nobody knows these things, but everyone seems to decry to force people into some unknown situation. First, it couldn't be man made it was a bat soup from a wet market the mainstream media said for almost 2 years a lab leak was a conspiracy and now Cov-2 was found to have CGG-CGG in it a pathogen the science community uses to experiment with that has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus it definitely was man made. That alone should scare people, but the pharmaceutical companies and scientific community are eerily silent on this as the WSJ and several outlets wanted more investigation that fell on deaf ears at the Fauci congressional hearing. Meanwhile, trillions of worldwide currency is being poured into these industries and huge bureaucracies like the CDC and NHS who are directly funded by this tit for tat. Business as usual, a once thought untouchable non corrupt entity such as "healthcare" like everything in our countries has turned on the size of the money involved. Now that vaccinated people are getting real sick here in droves the media is changing its tune but all this after they condemned and discriminated against folks like me as if they were untermenchen. I've kept my integrity throughout telling everyone why and not mincing words, I even told my employer to get fucked if they were to force me to get vaccinated. They allowed me to go remote because the restriction here is for the workplace after my protest. I wouldn't wish someone losing their livelyhood or their familes well being through coercion, discrimination or what have you, ever. Now, I sitback and await for the we are changing our tune re vax status and card/passport carrying email from my employer come mid next year but the followers and deniers never omit their wrong or lies they just move onto the next holier than thou these days. Dr. Joseph Goebbels wrote that ‘A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.’
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 20, 2021 7:47:09 GMT
Is it today they are having a meeting to decide the fare of the Xmas schedule?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2021 8:25:06 GMT
What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. I'll pass on your views to my close mate when & hopefully if he leaves ICU sometime soon. Six hours after having his Booster Vax he suffered a bleed on the brain & got rushed to hospital. He's been on the stroke ward & in ICU for the past month encountering both surgery & being placed on life support equipment. I'm hearing so many similar stories that are not getting reported on anywhere but its happening more regularly than people think & if people don't think it is or can see the clear link they're walking around blinkered & believing everything the MSM are informing them about which is really quite scary! Sorry to hear that but it’s just bad luck. And you’re more likely to get that bad luck if you get Covid.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 20, 2021 11:08:21 GMT
Pointless the jab, you still transmit and get sick anyways. I guess you feel a little better socially afterwards and can look down on others who have chosen differently. The athletes aren't going to increase their chances of blood clots and heart issues over a virus with 99% survival rate. They've made that quite clear. What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. I would question 3 of these based on the actual data coming out of South Africa where Omicron has come, killed off Delta and is now on the way out, anyway thats for another thread. If we really want vaccination we should consider following Japan's approach, where there is now ZERO Covid cases. i.e. No coercion. Japan’s ministry of health is taking a sensible, ethical approach to Covid vaccines. They recently labeled the vaccines with a warning about myocarditis and other risks. They also reaffirmed their commitment to adverse event reporting to document potential side-effects.
Japan’s ministry of health states: “Although we encourage all citizens to receive the COVID-19 vaccination, it is not compulsory or mandatory. Vaccination will be given only with the consent of the person to be vaccinated after the information provided.”
Furthermore, they state: “Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.”
Finally, they clearly state: “Please do not force anyone in your workplace or those who around you to be vaccinated, and do not discriminate against those who have not been vaccinated.”
They also link to a “Human Rights Advice” page that includes instructions for handling any complaints if individuals face vaccine discrimination at work.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2021 11:23:21 GMT
What utter bollocks. You’re more likely to die from covid if you don’t have it. You’re more likely to get hospitalised. You’re more likely to transmit it. You’re more likely to get a blood clot from covid than from the jab. I would question 3 of these based on the actual data coming out of South Africa where Omicron has come, killed off Delta and is now on the way out, anyway thats for another thread. If we really want vaccination we should consider following Japan's approach, where there is now ZERO Covid cases. i.e. No coercion. Japan’s ministry of health is taking a sensible, ethical approach to Covid vaccines. They recently labeled the vaccines with a warning about myocarditis and other risks. They also reaffirmed their commitment to adverse event reporting to document potential side-effects.
Japan’s ministry of health states: “Although we encourage all citizens to receive the COVID-19 vaccination, it is not compulsory or mandatory. Vaccination will be given only with the consent of the person to be vaccinated after the information provided.”
Furthermore, they state: “Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.”
Finally, they clearly state: “Please do not force anyone in your workplace or those who around you to be vaccinated, and do not discriminate against those who have not been vaccinated.”
They also link to a “Human Rights Advice” page that includes instructions for handling any complaints if individuals face vaccine discrimination at work.They’ve also pretty much shut their country off.
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Post by tomcmod on Dec 20, 2021 11:48:41 GMT
One main thing that is affecting players being being available is the guidelines that a person without having the optional jab has to isolate for 10 days. People shouldn't be forced to have it, just like people shouldn't be telling people not to. It's optional, some people just believe their opinion matters more. Out of interest I would like to know out of the numerous footballers who have had heart issues/heart attacks and fans in stands, how many have and haven't had the jab.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2021 11:51:07 GMT
One main thing that is affecting players being being available is the guidelines that a person without having the optional jab has to isolate for 10 days. People shouldn't be forced to have it, just like people shouldn't be telling people not to. It's optional, some people just believe their opinion matters more. Out of interest I would like to know out of the numerous footballers who have had heart issues/heart attacks and fans in stands, how many have and haven't had the jab. It is optional and if you choose not to there are more restrictions like the 10 day period which is fine. It’s a sensible step.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 20, 2021 11:52:08 GMT
Can’t we keep this thread relevant to football matches affected by Covid? There’s a thread on the other board discussing all the rights and wrongs of vaccines, lockdowns etc.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 20, 2021 11:52:27 GMT
Can’t we keep this thread relevant to football matches affected by Covid? There’s a thread on the other board discussing all the rights and wrongs of vaccines, lockdowns etc. This.
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Post by tomcmod on Dec 20, 2021 11:57:18 GMT
One main thing that is affecting players being being available is the guidelines that a person without having the optional jab has to isolate for 10 days. People shouldn't be forced to have it, just like people shouldn't be telling people not to. It's optional, some people just believe their opinion matters more. Out of interest I would like to know out of the numerous footballers who have had heart issues/heart attacks and fans in stands, how many have and haven't had the jab. It is optional and if you choose not to there are more restrictions like the 10 day period which is fine. It’s a sensible step. Vaccinated could still get it and pass it on to other players but don't have to isolate. Just because it allegedly reduces the risk doesn't mean it stops it. Should be all or nothing if they're being sensible.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2021 12:04:38 GMT
It is optional and if you choose not to there are more restrictions like the 10 day period which is fine. It’s a sensible step. Vaccinated could still get it and pass it on to other players but don't have to isolate. Just because it allegedly reduces the risk doesn't mean it stops it. Should be all or nothing if they're being sensible. No one has said it stops it and it’s not allegedly that it reduces it. They have shown it does (with Delta anyway).
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