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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 16, 2021 17:47:58 GMT
You need a vaccine certificate to watch the game but not to play in the game🤔 I suppose the government and the FA would point out that footballers are amongst the most regularly covid tested people on the planet. So, whilst a negative recent test will get you into watch the game you can also be sure that any player on the pitch will also have a recent negative test. However, I am gob smacked at how many players don't get vaccinated (about 25% apparently) being a professional in any team sport must put the unvaccinated player in a very high risk category. I know if I played professional football I'd have had the vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 17:51:00 GMT
You need a vaccine certificate to watch the game but not to play in the game🤔 That highlights the hypocrisy of it all and the whole passport farce Yes it certainly does but like LP says I’m amazed that 25% have not been vaccinated
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 16, 2021 17:53:57 GMT
That highlights the hypocrisy of it all and the whole passport farce Yes it certainly does but like LP says I’m amazed that 25% have not been vaccinated I dare say that 25% are a bit scared to take a vaccine that they don't know if it will have any affect on their athletic performance going forwards, any more or less than if they contract the virus. There may be 75%+ who are scared but are prepared to take the plunge. The EFL are out of order IMO for publishing those figures.
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Post by werrington on Dec 16, 2021 17:56:16 GMT
Yes it certainly does but like LP says I’m amazed that 25% have not been vaccinated I dare say that 25% are a bit scared to take a vaccine that they don't know if it will have any affect on their athletic performance going forwards, any more or less than if they contract the virus. There may be 75%+ who are scared but are prepared to take the plunge. The EFL are out of order IMO for publishing those figures. Confidentiality appears to be non existent mate The names will be next as the baying public request them
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 18:00:33 GMT
I dare say that 25% are a bit scared to take a vaccine that they don't know if it will have any affect on their athletic performance going forwards, any more or less than if they contract the virus. There may be 75%+ who are scared but are prepared to take the plunge. The EFL are out of order IMO for publishing those figures. Confidentiality appears to be non existent mate The names will be next as the baying public request them Come on mate you had the chance to mention kangaroo court then🤣👍
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Post by Royal Donut on Dec 16, 2021 18:04:45 GMT
You need a vaccine certificate to watch the game but not to play in the game🤔 I suppose the government and the FA would point out that footballers are amongst the most regularly covid tested people on the planet. So, whilst a negative recent test will get you into watch the game you can also be sure that any player on the pitch will also have a recent negative test. However, I am gob smacked at how many players don't get vaccinated (about 25% apparently) being a professional in any team sport must put the unvaccinated player in a very high risk category. I know if I played professional football I'd have had the vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity. Maybe they think they are young and fit enough to cope with it, and got a immune system strong enough not to cause death or serious illness. I'll have a guess that not a single player has a issue,,,, On a side note, be nice to know who had had it or not and any relation to heart attacks in 2021 with professional footballers currently more than double the average.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 16, 2021 18:13:41 GMT
You need a vaccine certificate to watch the game but not to play in the game🤔 I suppose the government and the FA would point out that footballers are amongst the most regularly covid tested people on the planet. So, whilst a negative recent test will get you into watch the game you can also be sure that any player on the pitch will also have a recent negative test. However, I am gob smacked at how many players don't get vaccinated (about 25% apparently) being a professional in any team sport must put the unvaccinated player in a very high risk category. I know if I played professional football I'd have had the vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity. Everyone is different I’ve had three jabs and will have a booster in feb As I’m clinically vulnerable If I was a physically fit professional athlete I wouldn’t go with in a hundred yards of any needle
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Post by a on Dec 16, 2021 18:15:53 GMT
This. Has anything come out of the club yet? Or are we just working off what journalists are saying on Twitter? I'll be absolutely gutted if the game is postponed, but it sounds like the issues are at our end(?). It obviously hasn’t been officially called off yet. What are you guys expecting. A personal phone call 🙄 Is that the only way to do it?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 16, 2021 18:27:38 GMT
Just postpone them all it's not fair on other teams. It plays into our hands as we'll have a few players back in the new year. If we stay clear of new injuries and suspensions... I know we appear cursed at the minute but I don't think even we could incur injuries when not playing or training. Unless all our players let their dogs sleep on the stairs.
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Post by armitage on Dec 16, 2021 18:32:38 GMT
Six stoke players are rumored to have tested positive. Players' Christmas party last Saturday night?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 18:45:30 GMT
You need a vaccine certificate to watch the game but not to play in the game🤔 Players are being constantly tested as we've seen so not really the case.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 18:54:51 GMT
4 more games called off in the Prem at the weekend
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Post by andystokey on Dec 16, 2021 19:01:18 GMT
Winter break needed.
Let's see how many we can get fit by mid Jan for a top 6 push.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 19:39:07 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 19:41:28 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2021 19:43:42 GMT
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Post by northstaffycher on Dec 16, 2021 19:51:36 GMT
Seriously cheesed off about this. Casts doubt on all Crimbo games which are are a big part of my Yule. Not cool. I’ll have to spend more time with the missus and kids FFS.
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Post by northstaffycher on Dec 16, 2021 19:52:57 GMT
…also this was our (Stoke fans) “works do”…4000 of us ☹️
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 16, 2021 20:21:58 GMT
We don't need lockdowns. It seems that circumstances are doing the job Boris and his mates are trying not to do. I suppose there can be a positive to this if loads of our fixtures are cancelled... we can get some of our players back in time to play in these games. Vale have all their strikers out so they won't be complaining.
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Post by Gods on Dec 16, 2021 20:45:37 GMT
The season is shutting itself down.
Regroup in March?
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Post by TheBra1n on Dec 16, 2021 20:53:49 GMT
its not just a short term issue this, getting covid19 will have an affect on the players health and performance for a few weeks sadly
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Dec 16, 2021 20:54:49 GMT
Yes it certainly does but like LP says I’m amazed that 25% have not been vaccinated I dare say that 25% are a bit scared to take a vaccine that they don't know if it will have any affect on their athletic performance going forwards, any more or less than if they contract the virus. There may be 75%+ who are scared but are prepared to take the plunge. The EFL are out of order IMO for publishing those figures. Bonkers logic, if so, given the impact of long Covid on lung capacity and lethargy. Given the relative risk profile, it should be clear cut in favour of vaccination.
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Post by Northy on Dec 16, 2021 20:58:58 GMT
I suppose the government and the FA would point out that footballers are amongst the most regularly covid tested people on the planet. So, whilst a negative recent test will get you into watch the game you can also be sure that any player on the pitch will also have a recent negative test. However, I am gob smacked at how many players don't get vaccinated (about 25% apparently) being a professional in any team sport must put the unvaccinated player in a very high risk category. I know if I played professional football I'd have had the vaccine at the earliest possible opportunity. Maybe they think they are young and fit enough to cope with it, and got a immune system strong enough not to cause death or serious illness. I'll have a guess that not a single player has a issue,,,, On a side note, be nice to know who had had it or not and any relation to heart attacks in 2021 with professional footballers currently more than double the average. You guessed wrong then, there's been a few, you just need to look www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-covid-19-breaking-19483898www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/12364748/karl-darlow-newcastle-goalkeeper-reveals-pretty-awful-covid-19-hospitalisation-but-now-recoveringwww.eurosport.co.uk/football/kevin-de-bruyne-is-still-struggling-with-effects-of-covid-19-as-he-helps-manchester-city-s-title-def_sto8674376/story.shtml
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 16, 2021 21:12:17 GMT
I dare say that 25% are a bit scared to take a vaccine that they don't know if it will have any affect on their athletic performance going forwards, any more or less than if they contract the virus. There may be 75%+ who are scared but are prepared to take the plunge. The EFL are out of order IMO for publishing those figures. Bonkers logic, if so, given the impact of long Covid on lung capacity and lethargy. Given the relative risk profile, it should be clear cut in favour of vaccination. You are correct but on the flip side there have been a few links to the vaccine and blood clots, however tenuous. Just imagine that ticking time bomb in your average 11k a game footballer! I don't think there is a right answer on this one, hence it being up to the individual.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Dec 16, 2021 21:24:48 GMT
Bonkers logic, if so, given the impact of long Covid on lung capacity and lethargy. Given the relative risk profile, it should be clear cut in favour of vaccination. You are correct but on the flip side there have been a few links to the vaccine and blood clots, however tenuous. Just imagine that ticking time bomb in your average 11k a game footballer! I don't think there is a right answer on this one, hence it being up to the individual. I believe there is a tipping point, whereby the risk of blood clots from the vaccine outweighs the risk of the virus. But I believe that applies to 1) Younger people than pro footballer age and 2) The Oxford AZ vaccine specifically, which is why they offer other vaccines to younger age groups. In short, there's no statistical basis for pro footballers refusing the vaccine.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 16, 2021 21:37:44 GMT
Bursik Davies Bonham Fielding
Smith Duhaney
Fox Tymon
Ostigard Batth Souttar Chester Wilmot
Allen Thompson Clucas Sawyers TOB Powell Vrancic
Doughty Ince
Fletcher Campbell Brown Surridge Sima
So that’s 27 first teamers.
Bursik, Souttar, Thompson, Sawyers, Powell all injured.
So that’s 21.
I was told 5 yesterday had tested positive so that’s 16 so we’re getting close to the lower than 14. It’s not hard to imagine more may have tested positive since to take it down the number.
So in short the Coventry fans have fuck all to whine about.
Hope they all get better soon!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 16, 2021 21:51:27 GMT
Bonkers logic, if so, given the impact of long Covid on lung capacity and lethargy. Given the relative risk profile, it should be clear cut in favour of vaccination. You are correct but on the flip side there have been a few links to the vaccine and blood clots, however tenuous. Just imagine that ticking time bomb in your average 11k a game footballer! I don't think there is a right answer on this one, hence it being up to the individual. In the Astra Zeneca vaccine the incidence of blood clots (not all of which are fatal) is about 10 per million, I think. Very low - and very much lower than the incidence of blood clots in those people who catch the virus.
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Post by cmc89 on Dec 16, 2021 21:57:25 GMT
So I went to a wedding of 100 people this weekend. I'm double vaccinated and boosted and we knew the risks we were taking by going to a friend's wedding.
Of that 100 people, 22 of us are now positive with plenty more expected in the coming days. Omicron is ripping through larger groups if social distancing/masks aren't properly followed.
It's easy to imagine a large training squad all getting covid at the same time due to the nature of their work.
Really can't imagine many games will go ahead in the next month....
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 16, 2021 22:02:31 GMT
You are correct but on the flip side there have been a few links to the vaccine and blood clots, however tenuous. Just imagine that ticking time bomb in your average 11k a game footballer! I don't think there is a right answer on this one, hence it being up to the individual. In the Astra Zeneca vaccine the incidence of blood clots (not all of which are fatal) is about 10 per million, I think. Very low - and very much lower than the incidence of blood clots in those people who catch the virus. Interesting stats.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Dec 16, 2021 22:06:06 GMT
Think with this omicron tidal wave hitting us this is getting very messy. Do we force players to be vaccinated ? 25 % not vaccinated is a shocking statistic .Are players in breach of contract by not having jabs .? Matches being cancelled as we speak .Playing behind doors again ? Some very interesting discussions in club boardrooms . Lots of questions but no answers . Confused .com.
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