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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 9, 2020 14:01:23 GMT
How do you suppose his head magically started bleeding? Stigmata?! I dunno fell, cut during the fight but you're right it MUST be the baton and that's all that matters for some. The video shows the baton swinging well above arm level, and it also shows the guy NOT falling on his head. But you're right it MUST not be the nice policeman's fault and that's all that matters for some.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 9, 2020 14:03:22 GMT
I dunno fell, cut during the fight but you're right it MUST be the baton and that's all that matters for some. The video shows the baton swinging well above arm level, and it also shows the guy NOT falling on his head. But you're right it MUST not be the nice policeman's fault and that's all that matters for some. I've said no such thing if your going to take the piss get your fact right before passing judgement, oh sorry I forgot it's not how things work on here.
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 9, 2020 14:03:58 GMT
And there you have it nobody knows the FULL story but still condemnation for the actions. Nothing can justify what he did but nobody knows what was going on blinkered bias anti Police stance. I prefer to look at ALL the evidence before I come to a conclusion but that's not the Oatcake way of administering justice. Lynch mob mentality and I'm the problem ! This board stinks.... If you agree on this point then nothing else matters. You’re agreeing that his actions were excessive, which is what everybody else is saying.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 9, 2020 14:04:44 GMT
Anyway I'm off I'll leave the lynching to all you agenda driven strokers.
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Post by Gifton on Feb 9, 2020 14:05:28 GMT
And there you have it nobody knows the FULL story but still condemnation for the actions. Nothing can justify what he did but nobody knows what was going on blinkered bias anti Police stance. I prefer to look at ALL the evidence before I come to a conclusion but that's not the Oatcake way of administering justice. Lynch mob mentality and I'm the problem ! This board stinks.... If you agree on this point then nothing else matters. You’re agreeing that his actions were excessive, which is what everybody else is saying. This
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 9, 2020 14:05:35 GMT
And there you have it nobody knows the FULL story but still condemnation for the actions. Nothing can justify what he did but nobody knows what was going on blinkered bias anti Police stance. I prefer to look at ALL the evidence before I come to a conclusion but that's not the Oatcake way of administering justice. Lynch mob mentality and I'm the problem ! This board stinks.... If you agree on this point then nothing else matters. You’re agreeing that his actions were excessive, which is what everybody else is saying. Sorry it was a quote from one of the lynch mob not my thoughts.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 9, 2020 14:12:24 GMT
The video shows the baton swinging well above arm level, and it also shows the guy NOT falling on his head. But you're right it MUST not be the nice policeman's fault and that's all that matters for some. I've said no such thing if your going to take the piss get your fact right before passing judgement, oh sorry I forgot it's not how things work on here. I'm not taking the piss. I'm making the very real point that you're talking out your arse, pal Now stop pretending you've said no such thing when you clearly have The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me.Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/293630/police-presence?page=2#ixzz6DSxBYTLy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 14:14:17 GMT
If you agree on this point then nothing else matters. You’re agreeing that his actions were excessive, which is what everybody else is saying. Sorry it was a quote from one of the lynch mob not my thoughts. Any right minded person would see a police officer hitting a lad from behind over the head with his baton. This was in response, according to reports, of two 16 year olds squaring up to each other.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 9, 2020 14:18:01 GMT
I've said no such thing if your going to take the piss get your fact right before passing judgement, oh sorry I forgot it's not how things work on here. I'm not taking the piss. I'm making the very real point that you're talking out your arse, pal Now stop pretending you've said no such thing when you clearly have The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me.Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/293630/police-presence?page=2#ixzz6DSxBYTLyThat is a reasonable explanation of what I saw, nowhere does it say it was not the fault of the officer and a very brief explanation of some of the laws available to justify what may have gone on. Just find a tree and some rope along with the other fair minded folk in here lol.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 9, 2020 14:23:39 GMT
The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me. Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable. Quick question mate. Are you or have you been a serving pig police officer or is this just a bad error of judgement/trolling?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 9, 2020 14:28:08 GMT
The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me. Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable. Quick question mate. Are you or have you been a serving pig police officer or is this just a bad error of judgement/trolling? Are you going to take your clothes off for him if he is mate? 😂
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 9, 2020 14:30:10 GMT
I'm not taking the piss. I'm making the very real point that you're talking out your arse, pal Now stop pretending you've said no such thing when you clearly have The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me.Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/293630/police-presence?page=2#ixzz6DSxBYTLyThat is a reasonable explanation of what I saw, nowhere does it say it was not the fault of the officer and a very brief explanation of some of the laws available to justify what may have gone on. Just find a tree and some rope along with the other fair minded folk in here lol. Look carps Franklin, the important takeaway from my posts is that I've not actually expressed an opinion on the rights or wrongs of the policeman's act. Simply that you're talking out your arse You're even contradicting your own words that I've quoted back at you now. Just admit you have this one wrong and move on
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Post by thevoid on Feb 9, 2020 14:32:44 GMT
I've said no such thing if your going to take the piss get your fact right before passing judgement, oh sorry I forgot it's not how things work on here. I'm not taking the piss. I'm making the very real point that you're talking out your arse, pal Now stop pretending you've said no such thing when you clearly have The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me.Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable.Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/293630/police-presence?page=2#ixzz6DSxBYTLy'Pal' 🤔 Strange how Tweedledum and Tweedledee, despite rarely posting on this side of the board, suddenly show up on this thread together. Pure coincidence hey? 😉
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 14:41:38 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Feb 9, 2020 14:45:05 GMT
He should at very least be out of a job and ideally facing a custodial sentence. That footage is sickening.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 9, 2020 14:51:46 GMT
Gruesome. Hopefully a full investigation will follow. It's hard to imagine how that force can be justified, mind.
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 9, 2020 14:54:48 GMT
Good god, that is way, way beyond reasonable force. The copper should be up for a GBH charge at the very least. I don't care what the lad was up to either. Absolutely no need for that from an officer of the law. Disgraceful. I hope there’s no attempt to explain this as anything other than what it is by SYP, and they publicly condemn him / throw the book at him. There’s no way they can whitewash this, can they?
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Post by werrington on Feb 9, 2020 14:56:48 GMT
Good god, that is way, way beyond reasonable force. The copper should be up for a GBH charge at the very least. I don't care what the lad was up to either. Absolutely no need for that from an officer of the law. Disgraceful. I hope there’s no attempt to explain this as anything other than what it is by SYP, and they publicly condemn him / throw the book at him. There’s no way they can whitewash this, can they? David Duckenfield will chair the enquiry It’ll all be above board I’m sure
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Post by butlerstbob on Feb 9, 2020 15:01:40 GMT
Lets just hope common sense prevails and the copper is out of a job by Monday and facing court action Tuesday...That is actual GBH and that video is sickening!
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Post by stokefc on Feb 9, 2020 15:11:11 GMT
what a wanker ,the copper not the lad
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 9, 2020 15:17:10 GMT
Not seen that level since the Prem ?? No trouble before or after as far as I could tell..... Did you miss the Millwall home games?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 9, 2020 15:59:36 GMT
It’s not just South Yorkshire Police
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 9, 2020 17:23:07 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Feb 9, 2020 18:44:33 GMT
It will be interestin to see what happens.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 9, 2020 19:07:46 GMT
Full investigation must be completed, which should include events prior and after the strike.
However, how anybody can defend that after witnessing the footage is seriously worrying.
Not only does it seem completely unnecessary it is a deliberate act of violence that could have ended up much, much worse for the lad.
On top of which he has also put other officers in potential danger as the reaction from by standers could also have been totally different.
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Post by waffles on Feb 9, 2020 19:24:37 GMT
I'm certain that the police will fully invesigate, then following a full enquiry they will use all of their discretion and power of prosecution to conclude that "the officer has been spoken to and lessons have been learned"
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 9, 2020 19:31:19 GMT
That's lethal force but because of the circumstances and who he is he'll get gbh for that.
He's going down, no doubt.
That's disgusting
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Post by keasie1863 on Feb 9, 2020 21:10:23 GMT
Do that to another football fan and your looking at a few month's.fucking disgusting animal😠
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 16:59:32 GMT
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Post by Davef on Feb 10, 2020 17:23:00 GMT
The usual suspects spilling the anti police guff as expected. The baton strike is to his arm from what I can see, common law accounts for lethal force and its use, the criminal justice and immigration act allows for "hindsight" how anyone can condemn somebody on that footage is beyond me. Issues yes condemnation no reasonable, proportionate and necessary who knows nobody was there on here so it's all bullshit. But hey crack on with the conspiracy cover up bile its embarrassing and predictable. Regardless of whether the lad was involved in any kind of trouble, the force in which that officer weighed in to deal with it is nowhere near reasonable and neither is it defensible. Punishment is supposed to be dished out by the courts, not these wannabe Robocops.
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