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Post by teenagefanclub on Jun 24, 2018 11:46:15 GMT
Genuinely seems like a nice bloke. Hard not to buy into what he's trying to do, handles himself well in the media scrum and liked by the players.
Much easier to get behind than a Roy or a Fabio.
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Post by Club1863 on Jun 24, 2018 11:53:55 GMT
I’ve warmed to him, I didn’t think he was the right appointment at the time but whatever happens in Russia we need to stick with him
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 24, 2018 11:55:15 GMT
I like him. Young, articulate and has a habit of doing the right thing.
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 24, 2018 11:58:47 GMT
I suppose the pressure and scrutiny he received from the press after his euros penalty miss has helped him with dealing with the press circus now
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jun 24, 2018 14:35:17 GMT
Bit of passion at the end there.
Goaarrn GSG
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 14:38:55 GMT
I suppose the pressure and scrutiny he received from the press after his euros penalty miss has helped him with dealing with the press circus now Pretty sure he has already alluded to that being the lowest point of his career and that nothing he can do in management could ever be on a par with that moment. I like him, he's doing a great job with the players he has at his disposal. I disagree with some of his selections but that's just par for the course with any manager.
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Jun 24, 2018 14:39:29 GMT
He has created a great team ethic. Looking at players in the Prem. maybe he hasn't got the best of the bunch (Kane excepted) but they are organised, work to a plan and can only get better
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 24, 2018 14:40:28 GMT
He's been through it, and the worst of it too (1996). It's definitely filtering into his coaching style, he clearly demonstrates to the players that its not the end of the world, so you may as well have a go while you're here. I've never seen an England side play with such freedom in the absence of fear. But crucially he's keeping their feet grounded.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 24, 2018 15:02:25 GMT
He wasn't my choice but I've been very impressed with the way he's going about it all.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jun 24, 2018 15:41:31 GMT
He has done more than okay
But so has Steve Holland
I think what is going on ,is that Southgate and Holland are doing a good job
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jun 24, 2018 15:48:10 GMT
Wasn't Holland there previously though?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 17:48:49 GMT
I like the fact that after a 6-1 win he's not happy. That's a man who's watching ALL the team not just the headline grabbers.
Knows what's needed to win, just hope none of the players let him down. I have bad thoughts with Delli Belli who is just the type to do something stupid.
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 24, 2018 18:03:18 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 18:13:55 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition. I held that view of him, however I am beginning to think he just played the yes man to get the job. Or at least that's what I hope.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 24, 2018 18:35:33 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition. Just what are the FA asking him that he says yes to?
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 24, 2018 18:43:19 GMT
I'm not convinced by him as a manager, but he has England playing with a freedom that I can't remember seeing in a major tournament to date.
That said, he's made a complete pig's ear of the defence, and I imagine that any half decent team will be delighted to see Stones and Walker masquerading as centre backs. Still, he has time to resolve that.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 24, 2018 18:52:37 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition. He hasn’t been a yes man though has he? He’s made some big calls and been ruthless with some of the players he’s got rid of.
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Post by neddy on Jun 24, 2018 18:58:39 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition. He hasn’t been a yes man though has he? He’s made some big calls and been ruthless with some of the players he’s got rid of. My only issue today is that just before RLC got booked after we scored he should have been on the touch line telling them to think and not give the ref a chance to get in the game? No problem today but against a better team and to get a stupid sending off could cost us a game! Just want him to get s but vocal at key times that’s all? Did anyone think the same?
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Post by henry on Jun 24, 2018 19:27:27 GMT
Very impressed with him. Not having your goal scoring machine taking corners and free kicks is a plus point.
Woy, ever likely you didnt want do a press conference 2 years ago you fucking clown.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 19:54:34 GMT
He's done a lot right in a short space of time IMO.
He's been ruthless in getting rid of certain players
He's shown tactical flexibility with moving to a back three, and before that when playing around the the two holding midfielders. He isn't scared to admit his mistakes by changing.
He's been honest both before the tournament and as recently as today in offering a critique on our performances, where other coaches have and do try and shrug it off with clichés and nonsense.
He's offered an olive branch to the media and press by giving them loads of access to the players, even if it was chucked back in his face.
Given some of the donkeys we've had in the dugout before him he isn't half bad at all.
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 24, 2018 20:10:44 GMT
My only gripe is I would have told Kyle walker take a booking then sub him off much better miss the Belgium game than the first knockout game
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 24, 2018 22:33:30 GMT
I'm not convinced by him as a manager, but he has England playing with a freedom that I can't remember seeing in a major tournament to date. That said, he's made a complete pig's ear of the defence, and I imagine that any half decent team will be delighted to see Stones and Walker masquerading as centre backs. Still, he has time to resolve that. Agree with this, all three give me the heebeejeebeeis, bloody scary at times. Walker is just too cocky and his passing is shocking at times, Trippier has actually nicked his place, I would rather see Cahill in the centre and Jones or Stones to the right. Maguire is still learning at this level so I will cut him some slack, he does however have a major clanger waiting to happen in his game. Lets just enjoy the ride as there is fook all we can do about it
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Post by Absolution on Jun 24, 2018 23:00:53 GMT
He hasn’t been a yes man though has he? He’s made some big calls and been ruthless with some of the players he’s got rid of. My only issue today is that just before RLC got booked after we scored he should have been on the touch line telling them to think and not give the ref a chance to get in the game? No problem today but against a better team and to get a stupid sending off could cost us a game! Just want him to get s but vocal at key times that’s all? Did anyone think the same? The booking was for a foul. These things happen, and we seem to pick up less bookings than most teams. Given the provocation today, I thought our players kept their discipline superbly. That’s another plus for the manager, surely.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2018 23:06:24 GMT
My only issue today is that just before RLC got booked after we scored he should have been on the touch line telling them to think and not give the ref a chance to get in the game? No problem today but against a better team and to get a stupid sending off could cost us a game! Just want him to get s but vocal at key times that’s all? Did anyone think the same? The booking was for a foul. These things happen, and we seem to pick up less bookings than most teams. Given the provocation today, I thought our players kept their discipline superbly. That’s another plus for the manager, surely. A lot of teams would have lost it today against Panama with their antics. They were trying to provoke throughout and England managed to keep level heads and that comes from the management.
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Post by thedarkknight on Jun 25, 2018 0:31:46 GMT
My only issue today is that just before RLC got booked after we scored he should have been on the touch line telling them to think and not give the ref a chance to get in the game? No problem today but against a better team and to get a stupid sending off could cost us a game! Just want him to get s but vocal at key times that’s all? Did anyone think the same? The booking was for a foul. These things happen, and we seem to pick up less bookings than most teams. Given the provocation today, I thought our players kept their discipline superbly. That’s another plus for the manager, surely. The fact we are top of the group simply through discipline says it all.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 25, 2018 4:47:34 GMT
He's a tosser. Southo outo!😀
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Post by Waggy on Jun 25, 2018 5:31:11 GMT
I have warmed to him, seems to have bonded the team which other managers failed to do. The players are playing with the same passion as the fans. Also he wears a waist coat with such sophistication.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 25, 2018 6:04:39 GMT
Quite clearly a "yes man" and he has form for it over many years. The FA asked him if he wanted to be the U21 manager and he said yes - and then he did exactly the same when he was asked if he would manage the senior team!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 6:31:43 GMT
I'm not convinced by him as a manager, but he has England playing with a freedom that I can't remember seeing in a major tournament to date. That said, he's made a complete pig's ear of the defence, and I imagine that any half decent team will be delighted to see Stones and Walker masquerading as centre backs. Still, he has time to resolve that. Agree with this, all three give me the heebeejeebeeis, bloody scary at times. Walker is just too cocky and his passing is shocking at times, Trippier has actually nicked his place, I would rather see Cahill in the centre and Jones or Stones to the right. Maguire is still learning at this level so I will cut him some slack, he does however have a major clanger waiting to happen in his game. Lets just enjoy the ride as there is fook all we can do about it I like our general shape and the way we try to play when we have the ball, but I agree that the personnel at the back are a weak point (and in some other positions to be fair). Some of the gaps that we leave will be well-exposed against better opponents. Thursday will be interesting as Belgium will undoubtedly test our discipline and defensive shape and I fully expect errors; it's a case of whether we ride our luck or get punished for them. Lots of positives overall though. Southgate's done well so far. He and the team still look like a project in progress rather than the finished article imho, but they're clearly growing together and there seems to be an actual gameplan. As others have mentioned, I like that he has high standards and that he is intelligent enough to recognise - and try to fix - his own mistakes.
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 25, 2018 7:02:50 GMT
Something about him I’m not sure on. Think he is a stero typical FA yes man. Not really been under any major pressure yet and as much as today’s result was great, I will reserve judgement until we face better opposition. Just what are the FA asking him that he says yes to? I suspect that for the salary the England manager is paid and the revenue at stake, the FA expect compromise on squad selection and PR (no divisive characters who tweet about choc ices, no Shawcross in 2014, run a few decisions by major sponsors etc) and everyone goes home rich. To optimise the gravy train, they need a "yes man" which I guess is why Brian Clough, Harry Redknapp and Jack Charlton were never given the job. I've no way of proving it of course, but for what it's worth I bet if a major sponsor complained about Raheem Sterling's tattoo then there'd be a meeting about it involving Southgate. The likes of Redknapp, a good earner though he was, might tell them where to go. Sadly, I'm sceptical about the motives of those who govern football at the best of times.
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