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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jul 4, 2018 12:22:19 GMT
They're all good if they go in - even Bryan Ruiz knows that. RLC was the obvious choice, Dier kills all momentum and he can't even foul properly. Can you begin to imagine the pressure on Eric Dier when he stepped up to take that penalty?My view, for what it's worth, is that those lads tonight deserve a medal! I have to say I thought they were done after the 1st half of extra time but they found a second wind from somewhere. The shit they had to put up with from the Colombians was ridiculous but for me, they thoroughly deserved the victory and to succeed in the penalty shoot out showed great courage and character. If there is any justice, Colombia should be retrospectively punished for their antics, e.g. disqualified from entry to the next World Cup. You only need to take such action once and I feel sure you would see fairer play being conducted going forward. That said, I still have the view that FIFA, and indeed all footballing governing bodies simply love controversy. It gets people talking and runs emotions high. Whatever they might claim, they are simply not interested in making sure that fair play prevails. Tonight, we got away with one because let's face it, if there was anything fair about football (even with VAR) Columbia would have had at least one man sent off tonight! Thankfully, the result went our way. Had Colombia won, I think you could once again suggest that the adages "Cheats never prosper" or even "Crime does not pay" are absolute bollocks - at least when it comes to football. This picture sums it up for me, everyone else celebrating and he's thinking right, this is me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 12:27:48 GMT
Just when you think even the person who moans about fucking everything couldn't moan at England winning a World Cup game... Well done on your winning penalty Eric to put your nation through to the next round, but next time can you improve your technique as Bayern wasn't very happy with it. Never heard someone chat so much shit in my entire life. Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 4, 2018 12:33:33 GMT
Just when you think even the person who moans about fucking everything couldn't moan at England winning a World Cup game... Well done on your winning penalty Eric to put your nation through to the next round, but next time can you improve your technique as Bayern wasn't very happy with it. Never heard someone chat so much shit in my entire life. Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. You can't do more than score.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 4, 2018 12:35:31 GMT
Just when you think even the person who moans about fucking everything couldn't moan at England winning a World Cup game... Well done on your winning penalty Eric to put your nation through to the next round, but next time can you improve your technique as Bayern wasn't very happy with it. Never heard someone chat so much shit in my entire life. Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. Agree - he was very lucky the keeper didn't save it. He should have.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 12:35:51 GMT
Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. You can't do more than score. You can though. The 'keeper should have saved it, that's an issue for future peno shoot outs if we have one and he's (strangely) on. Like I said, it's like when people said Walters just scoring them was fine. It never was. His technique was poor and was always going to lead to him missing more than anyone ever should. That's something that can be changed or avoided.
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Post by ProctorDre on Jul 4, 2018 12:36:58 GMT
Just when you think even the person who moans about fucking everything couldn't moan at England winning a World Cup game... Well done on your winning penalty Eric to put your nation through to the next round, but next time can you improve your technique as Bayern wasn't very happy with it. Never heard someone chat so much shit in my entire life. Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. You're just the most negative fuck I've ever seen, it's unbelievable.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 12:39:05 GMT
Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. You're just the most negative fuck I've ever seen, it's unbelievable. How is it negative? It's wanting to improve so in the future the result (a positive one) is maintained. That's not being negative.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 4, 2018 12:45:33 GMT
You can't do more than score. You can though. The 'keeper should have saved it, that's an issue for future peno shoot outs if we have one and he's (strangely) on. Like I said, it's like when people said Walters just scoring them was fine. It never was. His technique was poor and was always going to lead to him missing more than anyone ever should. That's something that can be changed or avoided. It could have been perfect and the keeper saved it. You're just playing to the gallery now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 12:47:15 GMT
You can though. The 'keeper should have saved it, that's an issue for future peno shoot outs if we have one and he's (strangely) on. Like I said, it's like when people said Walters just scoring them was fine. It never was. His technique was poor and was always going to lead to him missing more than anyone ever should. That's something that can be changed or avoided. It could have been perfect and the keeper saved it. You're just playing to the gallery now. Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 4, 2018 12:52:15 GMT
It could have been perfect and the keeper saved it. You're just playing to the gallery now. Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. Luck is always going to come into it, but yes you need to reduce your chances of relying on it. I don't see much point in banging on about this though, I'm pretty sure Dier knows he could have hit that better and will continue to practice.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jul 4, 2018 12:53:14 GMT
It could have been perfect and the keeper saved it. You're just playing to the gallery now. Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. Just give us a brief run down of what you think is wrong with his technique mate... Bullet point answers are fine by the way...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 12:57:52 GMT
Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. Luck is always going to come into it, but yes you need to reduce your chances of relying on it. I don't see much point in banging on about this though, I'm pretty sure Dier knows he could have hit that better and will continue to practice. I don't think it is. And I don't think Southgate thinks that too with his "own the process" thinking. He's bang on with it. Repeat the action, repeat the action, be positive and take the penalty on your terms. It's actually fantastic to hear and is exactly what we need. It changes the mindset immediately should be carried on. And I'm sure he will, I don't see the harm in pointing it out though especially as he was bad in the game too.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 4, 2018 14:11:20 GMT
It could have been perfect and the keeper saved it. You're just playing to the gallery now. Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. I've just watched it three times and can't see what you are banging on about. It wasn't right in the corner but he struck it so well, so powerfully, the keeper had no chance....and that was the object of the exercise. Football must be rather joyless to you. If anything isn't 100% perfect, or more to the point, how you want it, you aren't happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 14:15:42 GMT
Bayern has pretty obviously never played any kind of football that remotely matters.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 4, 2018 14:15:57 GMT
Don’t forget he was a last minute change vardy was due to take one couldn’t so Dier stepped up agreeing to go last in a penalty shootout takes balls
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 4, 2018 14:18:08 GMT
Bayern has pretty obviously never played any kind of football that remotely matters. If we lift the big one a week on Sunday he'd micro manage everything in his head and find something to moan about.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jul 4, 2018 14:20:55 GMT
Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. Luck is always going to come into it, but yes you need to reduce your chances of relying on it. I don't see much point in banging on about this though, I'm pretty sure Dier knows he could have hit that better and will continue to practice. This. Bayern would find a negative if we won the World Cup 7-0.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 4, 2018 14:21:13 GMT
Henderson's penalty was closer to the corner than Dier's but like Henderson said after the game, his was at a good height for the keeper whereas Dier's was just that little bit lower which made all the difference. Rashford's penalty was probably the best penalty I've seen in the tournament so far, it was perfect.
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Post by ProctorDre on Jul 4, 2018 14:35:14 GMT
You're just the most negative fuck I've ever seen, it's unbelievable. How is it negative? It's wanting to improve so in the future the result (a positive one) is maintained. That's not being negative. Oh bore off man, spin it however you want. You do nothing but moan about everything. It's either attention seeking or boredom. Either way, it's sad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 14:35:47 GMT
Not at all. It was a dreadful penalty. No one saves Kane's, no one saves Rashford's, they're good penos. Dier's was lucky. You shouldn't allow luck to come into it. I've just watched it three times and can't see what you are banging on about. It wasn't right in the corner but he struck it so well, so powerfully, the keeper had no chance....and that was the object of the exercise. Football must be rather joyless to you. If anything isn't 100% perfect, or more to the point, how you want it, you aren't happy. I disagree. It was just poor goalkeeping and a decent keeper should save it. I was very happy with the result though?
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 4, 2018 14:36:09 GMT
Luck is always going to come into it, but yes you need to reduce your chances of relying on it. I don't see much point in banging on about this though, I'm pretty sure Dier knows he could have hit that better and will continue to practice. This. Bayern would find a negative if we won the World Cup 7-0. Should have been eight 👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 14:36:32 GMT
How is it negative? It's wanting to improve so in the future the result (a positive one) is maintained. That's not being negative. Oh bore off man, spin it however you want. You do nothing but moan about everything. It's either attention seeking or boredom. Either way, it's sad. It's not spin though. It's how it is in my mind. It was a piss poor penalty and something (among a lot other things) that needs improving.
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Post by haway on Jul 4, 2018 15:54:33 GMT
I like Southgate, anyone with the balls to drop Joe Hart from the squad deserves some credit.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 4, 2018 16:01:32 GMT
Wasn't the greatest of pennos but it did the job. Dier probably knows he can hit them better, but y'know, pressure. Is it worth six pages of squabbling with bayern? If you just want to enjoy the moment then enjoy the moment and leave him to it ffs
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jul 4, 2018 16:10:20 GMT
How tedious.
No criticism of the Kane penalty in the match. If the keeper had stood still he'd have caught it.
But guess what....it is a competition. One man against another. The best penalties can be saved and the worst scored.
Dier's penalty was scored. Therefore it was good. Simple.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 4, 2018 16:29:21 GMT
What scares me,is if we have to go through on pens.again,and Alli and Sterling take one,I think the both of them have a huge miss in them.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 4, 2018 16:35:11 GMT
How tedious. No criticism of the Kane penalty in the match. If the keeper had stood still he'd have caught it. But guess what....it is a competition. One man against another. The best penalties can be saved and the worst scored. Dier's penalty was scored. Therefore it was good. Simple. Your last two statements there are totally contradictory
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Post by shimmer on Jul 4, 2018 17:43:52 GMT
He deserves our support.
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Post by pottermouth on Jul 4, 2018 17:50:23 GMT
Just when you think even the person who moans about fucking everything couldn't moan at England winning a World Cup game... Well done on your winning penalty Eric to put your nation through to the next round, but next time can you improve your technique as Bayern wasn't very happy with it. Never heard someone chat so much shit in my entire life. Why? It was a wank penalty and it needs to be improved if he wants to take one again. He scored you loon.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 4, 2018 17:53:48 GMT
Who.... BAYERN ??? 😁 Nah let him carry on being a ninkompoop !😁
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