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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 15, 2017 18:02:45 GMT
A good example of why feminism is horse shit. How the fook have you jumped to that conclusion? Your bubble is very small in your world view of life innit? I'd say 3" from your forehead to the keyboard. I suppose things such as racism and sexism are boring and non existing in your world too.. She gets paid millions, no such need for feminism. Yanks voted Obama, racism is over! PLANK! There are plenty of successful women who don't need to bitch about males to get to where they are. Feminism is horse shit. Unless you're so stupid to actually think you're being held back by your gender..
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 15, 2017 18:20:42 GMT
Fair play to her, it's a phenomenal story and by and large she and the company seem to conduct themselves in an exemplary fashion. Certainly compared to some of the filthy tails of corporate and personal greed we've heard about again recently. However, that level of remuneration, in a world riddled with inequality, will always attract a certain understandable amount of opprobrium. Should anyone have that much wealth? Despite her clear talent, vision and work ethic, I don't think so. My only real complaint though, is that despite being proud of coming from Stoke-on-Trent, she's clearly not a Stoke City nut. I'd have no problem with her pissing all her moolah on getting us some pots!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 18:49:32 GMT
Fair play to her, it's a phenomenal story and by and large she and the company seem to conduct themselves in an exemplary fashion. Certainly compared to some of the filthy tails of corporate and personal greed we've heard about again recently. However, that level of remuneration, in a world riddled with inequality, will always attract a certain understandable amount of opprobrium. Should anyone have that much wealth? Despite her clear talent, vision and work ethic, I don't think so. My only real complaint though, is that despite being proud of coming from Stoke-on-Trent, she's clearly not a Stoke City nut. I'd have no problem with her pissing all her moolah on getting us some pots! Indeed. It's about time Dennis reached into the draw and pulled out the Transfer Black Mamba.
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Post by rawli on Nov 15, 2017 18:55:26 GMT
Grossly obscene that someone needs to pay themselves £200m in one year. How much does she pay her staff I wonder, you know the ones who do the actual work! was it obscene when she was sat in a portacabin chancing that the business would take off after putting all the money into it ? Depends what she was doing in there.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 15, 2017 19:02:16 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Nov 15, 2017 19:28:23 GMT
Bloody hell. What a jealous mare.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Nov 15, 2017 19:42:53 GMT
Here is my reply Dear Clare Foges - your article makes me wonder why you thought this was worthy of print. Any comment on the damage caused by loss of tax income to the poor around the country? Exploitation of the law by the rich to avoid supporting the poor and the state? You failed to mention that BET365 actually pay their taxes. They don't operate the in-shop betting machines which are arguably one of the biggest areas of concern within gambling. Do I agree with gambling? No. Do O feel you have an agenda? Yes. Do I think others could have been targeted by an article of this nature? Most certainly!
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Post by geoff321 on Nov 15, 2017 20:00:52 GMT
Forget the relationship between BET365 and Stoke City and just consider the rise of online gambling in general, in that respect I think this lady raises valid concerns supported by some hard facts.
Governments in future will have to look at this industry, a good start would be to control the level of advertising especially targeted at young men and now it appears children.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 20:12:31 GMT
Seems to me that they have wealth in mind, which in itself is not a bad thing, but as for SCFC, .Seems to be a play thing for them, like Chelsea & Abramovich.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Nov 15, 2017 20:43:20 GMT
The outpourings of bile from the Daily Mail are to be expected. Denise is from Stoke. Stoke is Labour (mostly). The family supports Labour. Personally I detest the Mail and all it stands for.
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Post by madnellie on Nov 16, 2017 6:28:16 GMT
It took me about two minutes to find an article where she mentions having a few glasses of wine. As a recovering alcoholic I would like to point out to Foges the amount of damage alcohol addiction also does, and that if she's so concerned with addiction, she should boycott the alcohol industry entirely and certain not write online about how much she enjoys this terrible, addictive, life-ruining substance. As for that jealous, bitchy piece about Coates, I'm pretty sure what she actually meant to write is "I'm a jealous, southern hypocrite who can't stand the fact that a working class woman from one of the poorest areas in the country has become incredibly successful and is actually creating jobs, paying her share, and helping the local economy, all while living and being based miles from the centre of the universe that is London. How dare she!" I don't usually go for name calling but that woman is an absolute hypocrite, and yes, an absolute bitch. For the record, I'm not anti booze or anti gambling. Both things are fun if you don't have a problem with them and you can't take away the enjoyment of many because a small minority are addicted to them, we would have nothing fun left at all in life if we did. I don't have any issues with gambling and have a small bet once in a while myself. I just find the double standards of people like Foges intensely annoying, as you may have noticed.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 16, 2017 8:00:36 GMT
All I will say on this no-one should have so much money its totally obscene and she needs a pie. A rich man/woman dies in disgrace.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 16, 2017 8:04:16 GMT
It took me about two minutes to find an article where she mentions having a few glasses of wine. As a recovering alcoholic I would like to point out to Foges the amount of damage alcohol addiction also does, and that if she's so concerned with addiction, she should boycott the alcohol industry entirely and certain not write online about how much she enjoys this terrible, addictive, life-ruining substance. As for that jealous, bitchy piece about Coates, I'm pretty sure what she actually meant to write is "I'm a jealous, southern hypocrite who can't stand the fact that a working class woman from one of the poorest areas in the country has become incredibly successful and is actually creating jobs, paying her share, and helping the local economy, all while living and being based miles from the centre of the universe that is London. How dare she!" I don't usually go for name calling but that woman is an absolute hypocrite, and yes, an absolute bitch. For the record, I'm not anti booze or anti gambling. Both things are fun if you don't have a problem with them and you can't take away the enjoyment of many because a small minority are addicted to them, we would have nothing fun left at all in life if we did. I don't have any issues with gambling and have a small bet once in a while myself. I just find the double standards of people like Foges intensely annoying, as you may have noticed. Sadly, many people are judgemental about addictions and passions which they don't have and tend to regard their own vices and addictions as a bit of harmless fun. C'est la vie! There certainly are problems with alcohol, tobacco (and other drugs) and gambling - but it is down to governments to put sensible legislation in place to control those businesses and to offer treatment to any addicts who become casualties. To criticise a bookmaker for simply being successful is about as daft as having a go at the licencee of the local pub, off licence or tobacconist. What the govenment should be doing is using the taxes and duties paid by bookmakers and sellers of alcohol and tobacco to bring forward sensible legislation and treatment programs.
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Post by geoff321 on Nov 16, 2017 8:10:30 GMT
It took me about two minutes to find an article where she mentions having a few glasses of wine. As a recovering alcoholic I would like to point out to Foges the amount of damage alcohol addiction also does, and that if she's so concerned with addiction, she should boycott the alcohol industry entirely and certain not write online about how much she enjoys this terrible, addictive, life-ruining substance. As for that jealous, bitchy piece about Coates, I'm pretty sure what she actually meant to write is "I'm a jealous, southern hypocrite who can't stand the fact that a working class woman from one of the poorest areas in the country has become incredibly successful and is actually creating jobs, paying her share, and helping the local economy, all while living and being based miles from the centre of the universe that is London. How dare she!" I don't usually go for name calling but that woman is an absolute hypocrite, and yes, an absolute bitch. For the record, I'm not anti booze or anti gambling. Both things are fun if you don't have a problem with them and you can't take away the enjoyment of many because a small minority are addicted to them, we would have nothing fun left at all in life if we did. I don't have any issues with gambling and have a small bet once in a while myself. I just find the double standards of people like Foges intensely annoying, as you may have noticed. No one is talking about banning anything including gambling, this lady was talking about mitigating the risks of online gambling especially to a particular group of people, what is wrong with that?
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Post by fca47 on Nov 16, 2017 8:27:47 GMT
Like all journalists, paid to pontificate about things they know nothing about. Probably spent 20 minutes on the internet doing her research. A speech writer for Cameron, think that says it all, a Conservative virtue signalling while doing nothing about the real problems of the country.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 16, 2017 11:23:11 GMT
Yeah basically I think he hinted to the point where even crossing on the stairs saying good morning or whatever received no response. Which I find incredibly rude and a complete lack of respect for working staff. Absolutely. There's no excuse for such ignorance. Wealthy or not. Business owner or not. One can still conduct themselves appropriately. It's not the Victorian times (or is it??). She sounds like a real creature. And I've heard similar stories before. What is it Richard Branson said- "If your staff are happy, your customers will be happy"?
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Post by thevoid on Nov 16, 2017 11:24:09 GMT
How the fook have you jumped to that conclusion? Your bubble is very small in your world view of life innit? I'd say 3" from your forehead to the keyboard. I suppose things such as racism and sexism are boring and non existing in your world too.. She gets paid millions, no such need for feminism. Yanks voted Obama, racism is over! PLANK! There are plenty of successful women who don't need to bitch about males to get to where they are. Feminism is horse shit. Unless you're so stupid to actually think you're being held back by your gender.. Wearing a skirt won't do any harm either
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Post by rawli on Nov 16, 2017 12:45:26 GMT
It took me about two minutes to find an article where she mentions having a few glasses of wine. As a recovering alcoholic I would like to point out to Foges the amount of damage alcohol addiction also does, and that if she's so concerned with addiction, she should boycott the alcohol industry entirely and certain not write online about how much she enjoys this terrible, addictive, life-ruining substance. As for that jealous, bitchy piece about Coates, I'm pretty sure what she actually meant to write is "I'm a jealous, southern hypocrite who can't stand the fact that a working class woman from one of the poorest areas in the country has become incredibly successful and is actually creating jobs, paying her share, and helping the local economy, all while living and being based miles from the centre of the universe that is London. How dare she!" I don't usually go for name calling but that woman is an absolute hypocrite, and yes, an absolute bitch. For the record, I'm not anti booze or anti gambling. Both things are fun if you don't have a problem with them and you can't take away the enjoyment of many because a small minority are addicted to them, we would have nothing fun left at all in life if we did. I don't have any issues with gambling and have a small bet once in a while myself. I just find the double standards of people like Foges intensely annoying, as you may have noticed. How many other working class kids do you know who's dad owned a chain of bookies, a successful catering business and a football club?
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Post by madnellie on Nov 16, 2017 15:04:36 GMT
It took me about two minutes to find an article where she mentions having a few glasses of wine. As a recovering alcoholic I would like to point out to Foges the amount of damage alcohol addiction also does, and that if she's so concerned with addiction, she should boycott the alcohol industry entirely and certain not write online about how much she enjoys this terrible, addictive, life-ruining substance. As for that jealous, bitchy piece about Coates, I'm pretty sure what she actually meant to write is "I'm a jealous, southern hypocrite who can't stand the fact that a working class woman from one of the poorest areas in the country has become incredibly successful and is actually creating jobs, paying her share, and helping the local economy, all while living and being based miles from the centre of the universe that is London. How dare she!" I don't usually go for name calling but that woman is an absolute hypocrite, and yes, an absolute bitch. For the record, I'm not anti booze or anti gambling. Both things are fun if you don't have a problem with them and you can't take away the enjoyment of many because a small minority are addicted to them, we would have nothing fun left at all in life if we did. I don't have any issues with gambling and have a small bet once in a while myself. I just find the double standards of people like Foges intensely annoying, as you may have noticed. How many other working class kids do you know who's dad owned a chain of bookies, a successful catering business and a football club? Fair point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 16, 2017 22:36:44 GMT
Forget the relationship between BET365 and Stoke City and just consider the rise of online gambling in general, in that respect I think this lady raises valid concerns supported by some hard facts. Governments in future will have to look at this industry, a good start would be to control the level of advertising especially targeted at young men and now it appears children. No fucks given. People need to control themselves.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 17, 2017 5:51:44 GMT
Forget the relationship between BET365 and Stoke City and just consider the rise of online gambling in general, in that respect I think this lady raises valid concerns supported by some hard facts. Governments in future will have to look at this industry, a good start would be to control the level of advertising especially targeted at young men and now it appears children. No fucks given. People need to control themselves. This. I have a flutter and I know I have an addiction to gambling although not in the sense of the extremes where losing house/mortgage payments etc etc etc (and nowhere near as extreme as a lot of people I work with - I have seen a lad get his casino balance up to £9k and back to £0 in little under 5 mins). This is the crux, I know my limits and would never dream of losing/risking mortgage payments etc etc, but we have to have some semblance of responsibility to ourselves, society today has got to the stage now where everything/everyone has to blame someone other than themselves. We are all adults and at the end of the day if you want a bet then what is wrong with that, it is the same as having a beer/doing drugs/smoking, everything in moderation needs to be the byword in my eyes. You are not forced to open an online betting account in the same way you are not forced to go to the off licence and buy beer. And don't get me started on advertising, if you are that gullible to be sucked into opening an online account simply because Ray Winstone/Samuel L Jackson are doing bet365's advertising then more fool you.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2017 7:58:09 GMT
No fucks given. People need to control themselves. This. I have a flutter and I know I have an addiction to gambling although not in the sense of the extremes where losing house/mortgage payments etc etc etc (and nowhere near as extreme as a lot of people I work with - I have seen a lad get his casino balance up to £9k and back to £0 in little under 5 mins). This is the crux, I know my limits and would never dream of losing/risking mortgage payments etc etc, but we have to have some semblance of responsibility to ourselves, society today has got to the stage now where everything/everyone has to blame someone other than themselves. We are all adults and at the end of the day if you want a bet then what is wrong with that, it is the same as having a beer/doing drugs/smoking, everything in moderation needs to be the byword in my eyes. You are not forced to open an online betting account in the same way you are not forced to go to the off licence and buy beer. And don't get me started on advertising, if you are that gullible to be sucked into opening an online account simply because Ray Winstone/Samuel L Jackson are doing bet365's advertising then more fool you. I'm the same and deep down I know that gambling is about the one addiction I could become suseptable to but I know my limits and don't go above it. I'm an utterly dreadful gambler but do get that urge to recover my losses but don't. Being an utterly tight bastard helps this. 😂
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 17, 2017 8:45:49 GMT
This. I have a flutter and I know I have an addiction to gambling although not in the sense of the extremes where losing house/mortgage payments etc etc etc (and nowhere near as extreme as a lot of people I work with - I have seen a lad get his casino balance up to £9k and back to £0 in little under 5 mins). This is the crux, I know my limits and would never dream of losing/risking mortgage payments etc etc, but we have to have some semblance of responsibility to ourselves, society today has got to the stage now where everything/everyone has to blame someone other than themselves. We are all adults and at the end of the day if you want a bet then what is wrong with that, it is the same as having a beer/doing drugs/smoking, everything in moderation needs to be the byword in my eyes. You are not forced to open an online betting account in the same way you are not forced to go to the off licence and buy beer. And don't get me started on advertising, if you are that gullible to be sucked into opening an online account simply because Ray Winstone/Samuel L Jackson are doing bet365's advertising then more fool you. I'm the same and deep down I know that gambling is about the one addiction I could become suseptable to but I know my limits and don't go above it. I'm an utterly dreadful gambler but do get that urge to recover my losses but don't. Being an utterly tight bastard helps this. 😂 I thought you were addicted to this place Bayern...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2017 8:53:41 GMT
I'm the same and deep down I know that gambling is about the one addiction I could become suseptable to but I know my limits and don't go above it. I'm an utterly dreadful gambler but do get that urge to recover my losses but don't. Being an utterly tight bastard helps this. 😂 I thought you were addicted to this place Bayern... Nah. This is just a passing hobby. People take it all far too seriously.
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Post by geoff321 on Nov 17, 2017 9:20:27 GMT
I'm not on this thread to discuss the rights and wrongs of gambling, it's not a topic I have any strong views about.
All I'm saying is that access to online gambling and mass advertising has increased the number of people who are registered as addicts, that is a fact. Is there a risk that this trend will continue without some form of regulation on the industry, almost certainly.
BET 365 and other companies advertise in an attempt to persuade us to bet,they don't do that with the well being of the punter in mind, but simply to increase their own profits, as with the tobacco industry time to regulate I think.
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Post by rawli on Nov 17, 2017 10:25:47 GMT
This. I have a flutter and I know I have an addiction to gambling although not in the sense of the extremes where losing house/mortgage payments etc etc etc (and nowhere near as extreme as a lot of people I work with - I have seen a lad get his casino balance up to £9k and back to £0 in little under 5 mins). This is the crux, I know my limits and would never dream of losing/risking mortgage payments etc etc, but we have to have some semblance of responsibility to ourselves, society today has got to the stage now where everything/everyone has to blame someone other than themselves. We are all adults and at the end of the day if you want a bet then what is wrong with that, it is the same as having a beer/doing drugs/smoking, everything in moderation needs to be the byword in my eyes. You are not forced to open an online betting account in the same way you are not forced to go to the off licence and buy beer. And don't get me started on advertising, if you are that gullible to be sucked into opening an online account simply because Ray Winstone/Samuel L Jackson are doing bet365's advertising then more fool you. I'm the same and deep down I know that gambling is about the one addiction I could become suseptable to but I know my limits and don't go above it. I'm an utterly dreadful gambler but do get that urge to recover my losses but don't. Being an utterly tight bastard helps this. 😂 If only everyone was as great as you 2 there wouldn't be a problem.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 17, 2017 10:37:00 GMT
This unregulated world where punters are able to bet with absolute abandon with no checks or interventions and kids are nicking dinner money to play slots simply doesn't exist. All the big operators have upped their game and the Gambling Commission are dishing out 7 figure fines to those that don't comply. Undoubtedly, as the number of ways to bet and the number of events and games to play on increases so does the amount of problem gamblers but its an issue that operators are taking very seriously.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2017 10:45:08 GMT
I'm the same and deep down I know that gambling is about the one addiction I could become suseptable to but I know my limits and don't go above it. I'm an utterly dreadful gambler but do get that urge to recover my losses but don't. Being an utterly tight bastard helps this. 😂 If only everyone was as great as you 2 there wouldn't be a problem. It's not about being great, it's about taking control and taking responsibility for yourself and actions. There's too much of this blame culture bollocks about.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 17, 2017 10:56:10 GMT
I thought you were addicted to this place Bayern... Nah. This is just a passing hobby. People take it all far too seriously. Bayern, >95,000 posts suggests it is more than a passing hobby; more like a vocation. You are not alone - my better half keeps nagging me about the amount of time I "waste" on here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2017 11:10:55 GMT
Nah. This is just a passing hobby. People take it all far too seriously. Bayern, >95,000 posts suggests it is more than a passing hobby; more like a vocation. You are not alone - my better half keeps nagging me about the amount of time I "waste" on here. I only really focus on this after a match, which I think is fair. The rest of the time it's inbetween doing stuff.
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