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Post by oggyoggy on May 12, 2024 9:19:35 GMT
I just read he got a new one actually. It also said he was the first non binary person to win it. I don't get that. What was Conchita Wurst if not non binary? Conchita Wurst is not a real person, she is an character played by a drag artist Thomas Neuwirth. Think Lily Savage/Paul O'Grady. It didn’t even occur to me that he is a drag act! In which case, he is very much a he, and not a they or a she, but the character he plays is a she.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 12, 2024 9:18:16 GMT
And yet we still suck at Eurovision, despite the linguistic advantages we have.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 12, 2024 8:41:58 GMT
I honedtly don't know we put up an artest known across Europe he spent months promoting it and gets 0 points appart from Sam ryder our votes have been pathetic and alot of audience votes for him because of our support for ukrain Yes, it's Brexit. Brexit is also the reason why the UK finished either bottom or in the bottom few places on six occasions in the twelve years before the referendum in 2016. Surely you are not suggesting we just aren’t very good? We are Britain. We are the best at everything, aren’t we!?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 12, 2024 8:26:26 GMT
Good effort by Nemo for breaking the trophy. Hope hes got some gorilla glue. I just read he got a new one actually. It also said he was the first non binary person to win it. I don't get that. What was Conchita Wurst if not non binary? I am no expert, but I think she defines herself as a woman. Whereas Nemo is a “they” rather than “he” or “she”. They does not have a traditional gender and so is non-binary. I get myself in a right muddle with plurals (should I have said “they do” or “they does”?) when I start using the pronoun “they”, as you can see!
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Post by oggyoggy on May 12, 2024 6:18:02 GMT
Is there a show with a better message than Eurovision? Peace and love for all. As woke as it gets. It’s brilliant.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 11, 2024 9:05:49 GMT
Controlled Migration (000's) Year Migrants Emigrants Net Asylum Seekers 2010 604 339 265 18 2011 599 351 248 20 2012 524 363 161 22 2013 557 350 207 24 2014 667 358 309 25 2015 664 334 330 24 2016 622 369 253 25 2017 644 399 245 33 2018 825 549 276 30 2019 788 605 183 36 2020 662 569 93 30 2021 891 424 467 50 2022 1234 489 745 81 2023 1180 508 672 79 TOTAL 10,461 6,007 4,454 497 www.statista.com/statistics/283287/net-migration-figures-of-the-united-kingdom-y-on-y/researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk Not the only reason people complain about Asylum Seekers but the pressure on Housing and Health Services figures highly. In the last 14 years 4.5 Million have Net migrated legally plus another *1/2 Million Asylum Seekers or about 10%. Yet the 10% seems to take up all the Oxygen Since UK "Took Back Control" there has been a spike in Asylum Seekers, the last 3 years account for 42% of the 14 year total. There has also been a spike in legal Net legal migration and guess what, the last 3 years account for 42% of the 14 year total A more cynical person than I might conclude that the spike in legal migrants are putting more pressure on Housing and Medical Services than the spike in Asylum Seekers and the Government are Gaslighting to cover up their incompetence * There are no figures on the number of Asylum Seekers who have been deported or left voluntarily, so the total number is inflated The spike in legal immigration is not down to ignorance - its deliberate government policy. The point about legal immigration is that the government is in control of the numbers. They have chosen to let in more people in order to prop up an aging indigenous workforce and they are doing this through cheaper non EU labour. Cheap non-EU labour was always part of the Brexit plan - the focus on illegal immigration is merely a distraction tactic. And Brexiteers would rather take the bait than admit they've been taken for fools. If anyone is genuinely interested in bringing down the numbers they really should be looking at government policy on legal immigration, not what they are doing about illegal immigration as it just the tip of the iceberg. The price there is the collapse of the university and care sector of the economy. Absolutely. Most on here complaining about immigration were brexiteers. Don’t they get that they voted for much higher numbers of immigrants coming to this country when they voted leave? They probably didn’t know at the time. But that’s because they had no clue what they were voting for, as I always have said.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 11, 2024 6:22:28 GMT
Of course it's a positive but a three month period is too short to draw any conclusions on the health of a Countries Economy If over an extended period the Growth percentage of GDP in a Countries Economy exceeds the rate of inflation it will generate excess funds to reduce Taxes or increase Public Spending. For quite some time the UK Economy has grown below the level of inflation leading to increased Taxes and relatively less spend on Public Services Other than by comparison of performance how the other G7 Countries perform is of little interest to me as it has no impact Its like the finale to unsuccessful Bullseye Contestants who have no desire to own a Speedboat being shown what they could have won Exactly. And, sadly, many people misinterpret such gains, in the (mistaken) belief that everybody started from the same starting position, which of course, they don't.
A country could have the biggest growth amongst it's peers (and by some considerable margin) but if said country had growth that was previously far behind it's competitors, then the headline doesn't reflect (at all) what it appears to suggest, they are merely beginning to now catch up and in reality, they could be still way off the pace. Yes, it is easy to grow compared with recession. If you were growing at 5% previously it becomes harder to grow again.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 20:05:10 GMT
Probably in my top 3 all time sportsmen (non-Stoke related). An absolute legend. I hope he gets an amazing send off this Summer, and passes Warne’s wicket haul to go second behind Muralirathan
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 19:51:33 GMT
Thanks oggy, I've got someone here on the case and she's a 'take no prisoners' sort of individual. Letters have been sent, my will sorted and wife has got some decisions to make. Actually astonished how much the marital home in Bedfordshire is now worth!!. Oggy will be taking you to the cleaners, don’t believe a word he says😉 I’ve got to climb the rich list somehow
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 19:25:22 GMT
Is 0.6% growth “good news”? It’s like being “thankful” that Stoke weren’t relegated 😂. We should be really excited, the UK Economy has grown 1% over the last 2 1/4 years Whoop de doo View AttachmentBrexit benefits. The people it has grown for are the multi millionaires and billionaires. Not the average person.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 18:33:25 GMT
I'm a week into taking my wife to the cleaners in a divorce settlement, watch this space. 👍🤔 All the best. If you need a good divorce lawyer let me know
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 16:38:30 GMT
Nah oggy your defo richer than me. I've legit just go on property market and our properties are much cheaper in NI too. I am in the fortunate position to have no dependants though (well bar the mrs) so maybe that helps. He’s a London Leftie Lawyer swimming in money. I bet he’s got a basement full of cash he dives into every night like Scrooge McDuck Shame it’s monopoly money
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 16:37:16 GMT
Oggy Mr Coke Knype Huddy Gawa Badger I’m as poor as a church mouse with a two bed mid terrace but I’m happy. I don’t need money I’m billions off non-dom Cokey
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 16:35:11 GMT
The Rich List 1. Mr Coke 2. Gawa 3. Oggyoggy 4. Knype / Huddy Children can’t own property so I am predicting they are at the bottom together. I am income rich and capital poor as I rent in London and can’t afford to buy what I want (obviously). Nah oggy your defo richer than me. I've legit just go on property market and our properties are much cheaper in NI too. I am in the fortunate position to have no dependants though (well bar the mrs) so maybe that helps. Oh yes I forgot that. My Miele vacuum cleaner is worth more than NI real estate! 1. Mr Coke 2. Oggyoggy 3. Gawa 4. Knype / Huddy
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 16:14:16 GMT
The Rich List 1. Mr Coke 2. Gawa 3. Oggyoggy 4. Knype / Huddy Children can’t own property so I am predicting they are at the bottom together. I am income rich and capital poor as I rent in London and can’t afford to buy what I want (obviously). Hang on I thought you lived in Croydon?😏 stAbbey Road in Londonistan actually
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 15:55:54 GMT
Member Added - Mr Coke Comments - Mr Coke is a secret millionaire who donates to the tory party and earned his wealth through dodgy contracts. He loves brexit because he's got an off shore tax haven with millions on it. The Rich List 1. Mr Coke 2. Gawa The Rich List 1. Mr Coke 2. Gawa 3. Oggyoggy 4. Knype / Huddy Children can’t own property so I am predicting they are at the bottom together. I am income rich and capital poor as I rent in London and can’t afford to buy what I want (obviously).
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 15:50:26 GMT
Miele’s are the best. In fact, whenever I buy anything, if Miele make it, I buy one of theirs.
I wouldn’t buy anything from Dyson. Tax dodger.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 10:30:18 GMT
A perfectly valid opinion but that doesn’t explain why he is held to a higher level of responsibility than other mayors. Not sure he is held to higher levels. But if he is its possibly because he's the mayor of one of the highest profile cities in the world. A bit like how the man utd or real madrid manager appears to be held to a higher standard than the Vale one. Dunno... Khan faces far more scrutiny than Street has over crime and knife crime despite London having far less crime overall per person. I don’t see why a London mayor should be expected to be any better than the mayor of the West Midlands or anywhere else. I would expect each to work tirelessly and passionately for the people they represent, as should anyone in such a privileged public role. My experience is that mayors represent their citizens far better than government ministers do. It is a good reason for devolution.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 10:25:32 GMT
It got politicised the second it was created. This s thread is a right wing hissy fit about London. It is a perfect reflection of the dismal campaign run by Susan Hall in the mayoral election which Khan won easily. 1- The threads titled “London” hence why most posts are about it. 2- Mr Khan is the crime commissioner as well as being mayor so he has to take some not all of the blame. 3 - The thread was opened after Johnson was mayor. 4 - This threads called London npt Khan. The posts are predominantly about the unnecessary losses of young lives and the concerns around the city / observations. Just because it upsets some doesn’t mean people shouldn’t have an opinion. 5 - Khan has got in for a third term but then didn’t the Tories? Were they doing a good job? I agree Khan has to take responsibility for crime in his city. It is lower than the national average overall. Well done Sadiq. Knife crime is high. But it is lower than when Johnson was mayor so Khan is an improvement in that respect but he needs to do everything he can to reduce it. However, I think more police officers and less deprivation would have a bigger impact on knife crime (and crime as a whole). Khan has some powers over police officers and there are 1800 more in London under his leadership, but ultimately it is the government who are responsible for budgets and for deprivation. So the Home Sec, the Treasury and the PM need to take more responsibility as they hold the power to actually reduce crime rates, across the whole of the country. Overall, London is one of the best cities in the world. The mayor has very limited impact on that overall assessment. Knife crime and crime at current levels has not diminished London’s status for being an amazing place to live or visit.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 7:56:44 GMT
Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isn’t confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesn’t get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners? Khan gets a lot of shyte purely off the basis he's a smug twat who refuses to ever take any blame for anything. Always got an answer blaming it on someone or something else. Something they all do to be fair but he takes it to new levels and combined with his absolute smugness its unbearable. Can't stand the prick. A perfectly valid opinion but that doesn’t explain why he is held to a higher level of responsibility than other mayors.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 7:55:11 GMT
Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isn’t confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesn’t get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners? Don't politicise this thread as well... It got politicised the second it was created. This s thread is a right wing hissy fit about London. It is a perfect reflection of the dismal campaign run by Susan Hall in the mayoral election which Khan won easily.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 6:33:28 GMT
It is indeed worrying that you would quote misleading statistics, especially as you're allegedly a person that mistrust statistics. I now fully understand why. The figures you quoted do not take any regard to population size, quite bizarre. Knife crime offences in London recorded by the Metropolitan Police rose year on year in the latest figures, but have not yet returned to levels seen before the Covid-19 pandemic.
Some 14,577 offences were recorded in the 12 months to December 2023, Home Office data shows.
This is up 20% from 12,119 in the previous 12 months, but is slightly below the 14,680 in the year to March 2020.
Of the 49,489 knife crime offences recorded in England and Wales in 2023, 29% were by the Metropolitan Police, a higher proportion than any other force. - The basis of the misleading Statistics you have quoted
West Midlands Police were second, accounting for 11% of the total (5,324 offences), and West Yorkshire Police were third on 5% (2,349).
When looking at the number of offences per population, West Midlands Police had the highest rate in 2023, with 180 per 100,000 people, followed by the Metropolitan Police (165 per 100,000), then Cleveland Police (143 per 100,000) and South Yorkshire Police (110 per 100,000). www.itv.com/news/london/2024-04-30/knife-crime-in-london-what-the-latest-figures-showFunny how stats are misleading when they’re quoted by other people. Your argument needs to be with ITV and Sky too not me. I take it you’ll be sending the same snotty reply to Mickey the Maestro on the stabbings thread for quoting the same figures just for a bit of consistency I’m not a fan of stats but I know that for some on here they love them to prove a point where ever they come from as they don’t believe lived experience and are dismissive of it. Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isn’t confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesn’t get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 9, 2024 9:29:36 GMT
If you have dinner at 12:00 and tea is on the table at 5pm you are working class If you eat lunch at 12.15 and have dinner at 7pm you are middle class Lunch at 12.15! 1.30 more like. Else you are hungry by the time supper is ready at 7.30.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 7, 2024 14:02:16 GMT
I doubt he will either. He should for continually being in breach of court orders though. He is in contempt of court. He's already posted and deleted something on his sh!$y Truth Social (that no one uses) today about the witness. He really can't help himself. He is the biggest attention seeker alive today.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 7, 2024 13:55:48 GMT
When will they lock him up for continued breaches of court order. It is contempt. In England he would be told if he does it again, we lock you up. He ain't going to prison. Not a chance. Closest he'll get to a prison is if he opens his own one like other entrepreneurs seem to do in America. Good money in it over there... I doubt he will either. He should for continually being in breach of court orders though. He is in contempt of court.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 7, 2024 12:30:31 GMT
Another gag order violation? The twerp just doesn't get it, does he? When will they lock him up for continued breaches of court order. It is contempt. In England he would be told if he does it again, we lock you up.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 7, 2024 12:28:04 GMT
I see the Green party with a deputy leader who is jewish is the latest party to now be smeared with "antisemitism". Two candidates had been sharing information that wasn’t true online. Rightly they were called up on it. Whether or not it was antisemitism? It was by the sounds of it anti Israel. Doesn’t make it antisemitism though. Speaking up against Israel should not be assumed to be antisemitism in the same way speaking up against Hamas should not be assumed to be Islamaphobic. The press reporting on these types of things always makes it worse.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 7, 2024 6:29:42 GMT
I agree with the above until your last paragraph. Rates of crime in the West Midlands compare very badly with London. More stabbings, gun crime and anti social behaviour in the West Midlands than London, all on a per capita basis. Air pollution is massively down in London because of Khan. Free school meals for primary school kids. TFL prices frozen for 5 years. Khan’s achievements have been recognised at the ballot box. Street’s haven’t. Oh come off it Oggy. Khan hasn't won due to popularity, he's won because the London demographic (almost an entirely Labour city now) isn't going to vote for a personality like Susan Hall. The Tories got it all wrong with their selection as they did previously. Not helped by the state of the party. Also that's a side point. My point around Khan was the way he conducts himself compared to respectful politicians like Street and Burnham and indeed, the chap who just won the West Midlands. Khan spends most of his time harping on about his opposition being a "white supremacist", talking about how evil Trump is and how his opposition is "dangerous". The idea of Susan Hall being dangerous is pathetic. Useless, maybe but "dangerous"? 😂 This is coming from the same guy who does his own fireworks show and claims they were "the best in the world". An absolute muppet. All you've done re Khan's "achievements" is just reel off the list from his own website. His achievements are his achievements. I benefit from them as I live in London. He has done good things and that’s why his vote share rose despite the change to FPTP which was a cynical attempt to split the non-Tory vote. Politicians like Hall and Trump are dangerous. They thrive on division in society and actively create it. Khan is right about both in my opinion (and in the opinion of the majority in London). The world would be better without politicians who stoke up hatred. You just have something against Khan. You brought him up for no reason. I have defended him. He has done wonders for the Jewish and Muslim communities in London for example, despite potential for bias. Sadly events in Israel/Gaza have obviously made those worse again. Street and the winner conducted themselves admirably as I have said in my post near the top of the thread. Khan was critical of Hall because she was awful in the campaign and fairly obviously hated Khan due to his religious beliefs and the colour of his skin. He is hardly going to be full of praise for her at the end.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 6, 2024 19:54:28 GMT
What a refreshing interview this is. I'd absolutely love to see him lead the Conservative party after Sunak's inevitable resignation. These are exactly the type of individuals that we need running parties and leading the nation. I'd say the same of Andy Burnham on the other side of the fence. Most ordinary Brits want to see honest politicians who actually give a fuck about their people and British prosperity. Given the demographic of Birmingham, he's achieved an astounding amount over these past few years. Very sad that Birmingham loses him but if the Tories have any sense (very questionable) they will be all over him as a potential party leader. Look at the state of Sadiq Khan in comparison to Street and Burnham. He's a disgrace to the nation. I agree with the above until your last paragraph. Rates of crime in the West Midlands compare very badly with London. More stabbings, gun crime and anti social behaviour in the West Midlands than London, all on a per capita basis. Air pollution is massively down in London because of Khan. Free school meals for primary school kids. TFL prices frozen for 5 years. Khan’s achievements have been recognised at the ballot box. Street’s haven’t.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 6, 2024 19:11:41 GMT
Braverman is one of the group of plotters trying to overthrow the PM. I’d rather never hear from her or the likes of her again. But she could have made headlines. She is irrelevant to the majority of the electorate. Following the council elections there was plenty of possible guests. It's a machine designed to suck itself off and the LK show is a part of it's machinery. I'm not surprised democracy is dying on its arse. Do you think this tripe appeals to young voters, or anyone? Yes, all good points with which I agree. The BBC, like every other media outlet, wants a so called rebel to rebel. That’s why they got her in.
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