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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 11:17:07 GMT
UK inflation at highest since April 2012Rise in hate crime in England and WalesHouse prices: Have they actually gone up in your neighbourhood?Councils buying homeless one-way train tickets included are figures of a huge increase in homelessness the above links are from today in addition the Met police chief says that they will not investigate, criminal damage, car crime and shoplifting as they have been cut back so far and cant afford the police. People from Grenfell tower are still in temporary accommodation 4 months after the disaster when the PM saying that they would be rehoused in weeks we have a £500 million cut to NHS England to pay the DUP bribe for northern Ireland NHS They are attempting to redraw boundaries to make it virtually impossible for any other party than them to win the next election Oh and there new so called policies are ripped off from the Labour manifesto but don't worry because Brexit is the key and other things don't matter !! and they cant get this right with the chancellor/ foreign minister insulting the people we are trying to get a deal with This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers
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Post by Gods on Oct 17, 2017 11:23:56 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand to play, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on Brexit |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 17, 2017 11:27:49 GMT
Fuck Campbell.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 17, 2017 11:29:17 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on BrexitYour using quotes from Campbell blairs verson of gorbells Face up to it the vote has happened We are leaving |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 11:30:47 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on Brexitgreat article unfortunately she will go no where near this as she is controlled by Rupert Murdock and he wants to see this country destroyed |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 17, 2017 11:32:43 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on Brexitgreat article unfortunately she will go no where near this as she is controlled by Rupert Murdock and he wants to see this country destroyed Yet he supported Blair and Labour. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 17, 2017 11:38:00 GMT
UK inflation at highest since April 2012Rise in hate crime in England and WalesHouse prices: Have they actually gone up in your neighbourhood?Councils buying homeless one-way train tickets included are figures of a huge increase in homelessness the above links are from today in addition the Met police chief says that they will not investigate, criminal damage, car crime and shoplifting as they have been cut back so far and cant afford the police. People from Grenfell tower are still in temporary accommodation 4 months after the disaster when the PM saying that they would be rehoused in weeks we have a £500 million cut to NHS England to pay the DUP bribe for northern Ireland NHS They are attempting to redraw boundaries to make it virtually impossible for any other party than them to win the next election Oh and there new so called policies are ripped off from the Labour manifesto but don't worry because Brexit is the key and other things don't matter !! and they cant get this right with the chancellor/ foreign minister insulting the people we are trying to get a deal with This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers Most of Grenfell residents have been offered permanent places and chose not to take them some of which should of been either deported or locked up for benefits fraud and sub letting The boundaries change has for the first time in years made it more equal Labour has had a unfair advantage for years I haven't heard many on here complain about that As for train tickets for the homeless many of the places mentioned are labour councils it's there choice I would agree this government is a shambles I'd of told the eu to piss off weeks ago |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 11:39:38 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on BrexitYour using quotes from Campbell blairs verson of gorbells Face up to it the vote has happened We are leaving Not only Campbell but this Michael Heseltine and a lot of others back the Campbell view including Vince cable this is a cross party view that basically we are stuffed if we leave with no deal we already see businesses relocating jobs out of the UK. lets face it the old have really stuffed up the future of the young of this country |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 17, 2017 11:39:43 GMT
Rise in hate crime in England and Walesthe Met police chief says that they will not investigate, criminal damage, car crime and shoplifting as they have been cut back so far and cant afford the police. What that BBC article misses out is that so-called 'hate crime' convictions are actually down. It's only because of the bullshit definition of a so-called 'hate crime' (IE If someone perceives something to be because of something) that the figures have slightly risen. ... And if the police didn't have to spend so much of their time (wasting their fucking time) looking into all these pathetic so-called 'hate crimes', then perhaps they could still be dealing with proper things. |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 11:52:12 GMT
UK inflation at highest since April 2012Rise in hate crime in England and WalesHouse prices: Have they actually gone up in your neighbourhood?Councils buying homeless one-way train tickets included are figures of a huge increase in homelessness the above links are from today in addition the Met police chief says that they will not investigate, criminal damage, car crime and shoplifting as they have been cut back so far and cant afford the police. People from Grenfell tower are still in temporary accommodation 4 months after the disaster when the PM saying that they would be rehoused in weeks we have a £500 million cut to NHS England to pay the DUP bribe for northern Ireland NHS They are attempting to redraw boundaries to make it virtually impossible for any other party than them to win the next election Oh and there new so called policies are ripped off from the Labour manifesto but don't worry because Brexit is the key and other things don't matter !! and they cant get this right with the chancellor/ foreign minister insulting the people we are trying to get a deal with This is an Inept government devoid of ideas that has no respect it is time that they left power and let others take control of this countries future as they certainly cant do anything worse than Chicken may and her cabinet of incompetent ministers Most of Grenfell residents have been offered permanent places and chose not to take them some of which should of been either deported or locked up for benefits fraud and sub letting The boundaries change has for the first time in years made it more equal Labour has had a unfair advantage for years I haven't heard many on here complain about that As for train tickets for the homeless many of the places mentioned are labour councils it's there choice Did you see inside out London last night They have been offered places away from the area jobs that they have in the borough and the schools that they have children in, they have also been offered flats in high rises (when the physiological impact of this make them unacceptable) they have been offered un secured tenancies that they can be booted out at the end of the contract where they had none of this in the past. there is no evidence that subletting has taken place or people were living there illegally this is just a con put forward by conservative supporters to try and justify the actions of there inept council and government Boundaries changes have and will help the Tories why cut 50 MPS when we need them in the coming years? why allow people to vote in this countries elections when they have left 15 years ago? I'll tell you why the conservatives will do anything to hang onto power just ask the DUP, they even lied to the Queen on forming the government when at the time the DUP were still not on board (at which she was mightily pissed) I notice you don't mention about the increase in homeless though |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 11:53:56 GMT
Rise in hate crime in England and Walesthe Met police chief says that they will not investigate, criminal damage, car crime and shoplifting as they have been cut back so far and cant afford the police. What that BBC article misses out is that so-called 'hate crime' convictions are actually down. It's only because of the bullshit definition of a so-called 'hate crime' (IE If someone perceives something to be because of something) that the figures have slightly risen. ... And if the police didn't have to spend so much of their time (wasting their fucking time) looking into all these pathetic so-called 'hate crimes', then perhaps they could still be dealing with proper things. The other thing is by not investigating minor crime or recording it they can say its gone down !! |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 17, 2017 11:59:55 GMT
What that BBC article misses out is that so-called 'hate crime' convictions are actually down. It's only because of the bullshit definition of a so-called 'hate crime' (IE If someone perceives something to be because of something) that the figures have slightly risen. ... And if the police didn't have to spend so much of their time (wasting their fucking time) looking into all these pathetic so-called 'hate crimes', then perhaps they could still be dealing with proper things. The other thing is by not investigating minor crime or recording it they can say its gone down !! Would it not be far better to get rid of the word hate surely a crime is a crime all crime is hateful in some manner If they got rid all those police who spend hours upon hours collating this could spend there time solving crime |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 17, 2017 13:03:28 GMT
think it is bad now just wait until 12 months as we draw nearer brexit. david Cameron should be hung for treason because of his handling of the brexit vote. he was too comlpacement because he didn't realise the public was so guillable so he didn't think he needed to challenge the lies peddled by farage and boris. how the fuck can we have such a momentoud decision decided by a one off vote? surely a vote of this magnitude should of been compulsory and a 75% share to force change
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Post by salopstick on Oct 17, 2017 13:14:12 GMT
Do we want high house prices or do we want prices to stabilise to affordable levels. Levels still not affordable since boom and bust.
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Post by geekenny on Oct 17, 2017 13:33:53 GMT
think it is bad now just wait until 12 months as we draw nearer brexit. david Cameron should be hung for treason because of his handling of the brexit vote. he was too comlpacement because he didn't realise the public was so guillable so he didn't think he needed to challenge the lies peddled by farage and boris. how the fuck can we have such a momentoud decision decided by a one off vote? surely a vote of this magnitude should of been compulsory and a 75% share to force change Controversial... But in general I'm in full agreement. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 17, 2017 13:38:26 GMT
think it is bad now just wait until 12 months as we draw nearer brexit. david Cameron should be hung for treason because of his handling of the brexit vote. he was too comlpacement because he didn't realise the public was so guillable so he didn't think he needed to challenge the lies peddled by farage and boris. how the fuck can we have such a momentoud decision decided by a one off vote? surely a vote of this magnitude should of been compulsory and a 75% share to force change 75 % of the vote your either on a monumental wind up or you don't understand the basics of democracy If 76% had voted leave you would want 80 % Get a grip |
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Post by yoc on Oct 17, 2017 15:05:40 GMT
Saturdays 7-2 defeat, hurricane Ophelia, my flat tyre? I don't know how they do it yet, but it's them, I know it? Keep up the good work, spread the word, Comrade.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 16:22:18 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government
Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering
Out means out
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Post by manmarking on Oct 17, 2017 17:07:02 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering Out means out I know this subject has proved historically difficult for you fraise. But not everyone shares your burning desire to hurl yourself off the Titanic into the icy depths, copy of the Express clamped firmly to your armpit, before the lifeboats are properly prepared  If you had any grasp of economics or politics, you'd accept that simply leaving as quickly as possible was never desirable or, more to the point, even possible  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering Out means out I know this subject has proved historically difficult for you fraise. But not everyone shares your burning desire to hurl yourself off the Titanic into the icy depths, copy of the Express clamped firmly to your armpit, before the lifeboats are properly prepared If you had any grasp of economics or politics, you'd accept that simply leaving as quickly as possible was never desirable or, more to the point, even possible I never said "simply" I said as quickly as possible dome head |
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Post by professorplump on Oct 17, 2017 17:37:20 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on Brexitgreat article unfortunately she will go no where near this as she is controlled by Rupert Murdock and he wants to see this country destroyed If the government are controlled by Murdoch, we do they keep blocking his attempted takeover of Sky? |
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 17, 2017 17:49:55 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on BrexitYour using quotes from Campbell blairs verson of gorbells Face up to it the vote has happened We are leaving You leave, I'm staying |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 17, 2017 17:56:32 GMT
I think Brexit was always going to completely consume and ultimately sink any administration of any colour. It's an impossible hand, an epic own goal. Nice piece from Alastair Campbell today below, it may be time for some honesty around this topic, what do they really have to lose other than Nigel Farrage running round wetting his pants but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Campbell on BrexitCampbell? Oh that Campbell, he of the dodgy dossier on Iraq? Personally I wouldn't wipe my arse on the opinions of that tosser. Still if he's telling you what you want to believe you go right ahead. (whiteflag) |
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Post by geekenny on Oct 17, 2017 17:56:45 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering Out means out Really starting to think that Brexit will not happen The economic uncertainty is going to cripple the country soon. A second (more informed) referendum is beckoning. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 17, 2017 18:44:39 GMT
Aren't all governments a shambles at some point?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 17, 2017 18:49:14 GMT
All down to uncertainty due to a dithering government Should have moved much quicker by not dithering and pandering Out means out Really starting to think that Brexit will not happen The economic uncertainty is going to cripple the country soon. A second (more informed) referendum is beckoning. There has been a second referendum in 2016. The first was in 1973. The result of the second referendum was that we leave. Having a third referendum would be ridiculous it would make us look a laughing stock & would play into the hands of the Germans & French. If we voted to reverse the outcome of the second referendum would we have a fourth referendum just to make sure? |
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Post by geekenny on Oct 17, 2017 19:00:22 GMT
Really starting to think that Brexit will not happen The economic uncertainty is going to cripple the country soon. A second (more informed) referendum is beckoning. There has been a second referendum in 2016. The first was in 1973. The result of the second referendum was that we leave. Having a third referendum would be ridiculous it would make us look a laughing stock & would play into the hands of the Germans & French. If we voted to reverse the outcome of the second referendum would we have a fourth referendum just to make sure? Third?? |
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Post by geekenny on Oct 17, 2017 19:03:58 GMT
Really starting to think that Brexit will not happen The economic uncertainty is going to cripple the country soon. A second (more informed) referendum is beckoning. There has been a second referendum in 2016. The first was in 1973. The result of the second referendum was that we leave. Having a third referendum would be ridiculous it would make us look a laughing stock & would play into the hands of the Germans & French. If we voted to reverse the outcome of the second referendum would we have a fourth referendum just to make sure? Is there some law that you cannot have another referendum? What happens if a General Election happens within the next six months (perfectly feasible)... and one of the parties goes with "another referendum" mandate. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 17, 2017 19:27:24 GMT
There has been a second referendum in 2016. The first was in 1973. The result of the second referendum was that we leave. Having a third referendum would be ridiculous it would make us look a laughing stock & would play into the hands of the Germans & French. If we voted to reverse the outcome of the second referendum would we have a fourth referendum just to make sure? Is there some law that you cannot have another referendum? What happens if a General Election happens within the next six months (perfectly feasible)... and one of the parties goes with "another referendum" mandate. Neither Labour or the Tories are calling for another referendum... I think people are fed up with referendum. Even the SNP have stopped calling for one. |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 17, 2017 19:27:52 GMT
There has been a second referendum in 2016. The first was in 1973. The result of the second referendum was that we leave. Having a third referendum would be ridiculous it would make us look a laughing stock & would play into the hands of the Germans & French. If we voted to reverse the outcome of the second referendum would we have a fourth referendum just to make sure? Is there some law that you cannot have another referendum? What happens if a General Election happens within the next six months (perfectly feasible)... and one of the parties goes with "another referendum" mandate. If a party put it in the manifesto then it becomes policy as we the people have voted for it, as we are voting for that party's policies through the referendum there is nothing stopping another referendum legally in fact we can have as many as we want. however if a manifesto said that they wanted us to stay in Europe as we would have voted for that no referendum would be needed |
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