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Post by figo85 on Nov 2, 2024 11:49:07 GMT
What’s not about football ? Why people don’t like Pelach. I’m fairly certain folk don’t want him gone because he wears casual clothes on the sideline or he watches love island. It’s probably because we’ve to improved in the time he’s been here and he’s supposed to be a quality coach. I’m not quite at the Narcis out stage but people are fair to criticise.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 2, 2024 11:51:37 GMT
Yes he’s been fine. People need to grow the fuck up. What have we seen to suggest that? I’m well in the give him time faction but I don’t really know what he’s done to be labelled fine. He’s firmly in the jury out category. And they’re quite a way out atm. 1 win in 8 and he’s been fine 🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by questionable on Nov 2, 2024 11:53:07 GMT
Why people don’t like Pelach. So why don't they like him? I am very firmly in the meh brigade currently. I’d have no issues with NP if things had improved, which they firmly haven’t. Typical small time thinking from a vast majority of Stoke support, yet again, not his players, players not fit, needs a few transfer windows, disruptive players not buying in to his plans, FFP I could go on. A vast majority of teams in this league are head and shoulders above us on and off the pitch
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Nov 2, 2024 11:56:33 GMT
I would genuinely have him back. 7 wins in 10. Promotion and chances for our exciting youngsters. Got rid of the majority of the deadwood. Was building in the first foundations of a team we could really get behind. Was rebuilding the bond between the club and our fans. Need I say more? Yes there were a few poor performances, but that was to be expected early days - for all that we were midtable and on a cup run, which is what we would have realistically wanted/expected from this season. It was hardly failing was it? And we gave Neil and Jones far longer even in the face of us going backwards at an alarming rate. Sacked solely for the reason that it fed Walters ego, so he could have a cowardly stubborn yes man who would allow himself to be cuckolded by Walters on all matters tactical, recruitment etc. So Jon, grow a pair, Sack off Walters and Pelach, get Schuey back as MANAGER (failing that Danny Rohl will be acceptable) then, if you wont sell the club, leave it to actual football people and not your friends and Sycophants! If you don't, you will be responsible for taking this club back to the dark days of third division football. And the longer you leave it, the worse it's going to be. Moaning about Schumacher not getting time while similarly maiming about the new coach when he’d been there for 5 minutes 🤣 Schumacher was an awful coach and as people have stated countless times the 7 in 10 while true, was completely distorted by the games they were. I was very glad when he was sacked, I was very annoyed at his replacement, but we’re a bit stuck for a couple of months at least to see how Pelach does. Remember Schumacher had the summer which put together the squad that we all know is very unbalanced and has huge holes in it.
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 2, 2024 12:13:16 GMT
Why people don’t like Pelach. What are the reasons you refer to? I am surprised at how NP has been getting less slack than all the other managers we’ve had recently. There must be a reason(s) why. In terms of what he can control as head coach, don’t think he’s done too much wrong to be honest. The players just aren’t very good. He's invented a narrative in his head that Stoke fans don't like NP because he's foreign. It's yet another disengenous way to elevate himself above the rest of us and it's hilarious. There is absolutely fucking loads of us desperate for NP to succeed.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 2, 2024 12:28:10 GMT
Shuey on Skysports Football in studio commenting on the match. Very interesting
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 2, 2024 12:30:09 GMT
Shuey on Skysports Football in studio commenting on the match. Very interesting Came across well so far. I’d have been tempted to give a rye smile when they put the stats of him and Pelach side by side.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 2, 2024 12:45:38 GMT
Shuey on Skysports Football in studio commenting on the match. Very interesting Came across well so far. I’d have been tempted to give a rye smile when they put the stats of him and Pelach side by side. Why? He wasn’t very good and Pelach has been here 5 mins. He’s got nothing to be smug about if you ask me.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 2, 2024 12:48:17 GMT
Came across well so far. I’d have been tempted to give a rye smile when they put the stats of him and Pelach side by side. Why? He wasn’t very good and Pelach has been here 5 mins. He’s got nothing to be smug about if you ask me. Nothing really but the stats based on the two favoured Schumacher
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 2, 2024 13:02:23 GMT
Why? He wasn’t very good and Pelach has been here 5 mins. He’s got nothing to be smug about if you ask me. Nothing really but the stats based on the two favoured Schumacher From the looks of it, the stats are based over his whole time here, compared to Pelach’s 6 or so weeks. Which is just meaningless. Regardless, we still finished 17th, looked no better than we have done under previous managers in this league and left the team embarrassingly unfit. The fact people would want him back is odd.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 2, 2024 13:05:38 GMT
Shuey on Skysports Football in studio commenting on the match. Very interesting Did he say anything remotely interesting?
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Post by thepottypotter on Nov 2, 2024 13:07:51 GMT
Shuey on Skysports Football in studio commenting on the match. Very interesting Did he say anything remotely interesting? He was just gracious. It put's our club's management to shame with how they treated him.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 2, 2024 13:11:57 GMT
Did he say anything remotely interesting? He was just gracious. It put's our club's management to shame with how they treated him. I don’t get the angle that we treated him poorly? The timing of the sacking was poor, but for the fans and the club, nothing else. He wasn’t doing what we wanted so sacked him. It’s football management, it’s expected and he’ll get over it.
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Post by thepottypotter on Nov 2, 2024 13:15:35 GMT
He was just gracious. It put's our club's management to shame with how they treated him. I don’t get the angle that we treated him poorly? The timing of the sacking was poor, but for the fans and the club, nothing else. He wasn’t doing what we wanted so sacked him. It’s football management, it’s expected and he’ll get over it. His sacking was out of the blue and not justifiable based on results (won 7 out of his last 10 games and we were mid table). He saved us from relegation the season before too. The club has still never given a reason why he was fired. When they sacked him he asked why and they said 'we will tell you later when the dust has settled.' No reason has ever been given and never will be. It's an appalling way to treat someone. It damages the club's reputation and image.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 2, 2024 13:22:30 GMT
I don’t get the angle that we treated him poorly? The timing of the sacking was poor, but for the fans and the club, nothing else. He wasn’t doing what we wanted so sacked him. It’s football management, it’s expected and he’ll get over it. His sacking was out of the blue and not justifiable based on results (won 7 out of his last 10 games and we were mid table). He saved us from relegation the season before too. The club has still never given a reason why he was fired. When they sacked him he asked why and they said 'we will tell you later when the dust has settled.' No reason has ever been given and never will be. It's an appalling way to treat someone. It damages the club's reputation and image. The reason was we wanted to go in a different direction. The club have said that. That’s a reason. He might be told in private why, we’ll never know. We finished 17th when he had most of the season. He was poor. I don’t understand this loyalty to someone who come next year will get another job and forget all about Stoke City. Especially when he was so mediocre. If people are basing it on his feelings and him being a nice guy then it’s really odd tbh. It’s not like he’s living pay check to pay check is it. He will 100% get over it and I guarantee no one outside of Stoke City gives a shit how we treated him, even if they did why would it bother you?
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Post by brinewings on Nov 2, 2024 13:29:32 GMT
I don’t get the angle that we treated him poorly? The timing of the sacking was poor, but for the fans and the club, nothing else. He wasn’t doing what we wanted so sacked him. It’s football management, it’s expected and he’ll get over it. His sacking was out of the blue and not justifiable based on results (won 7 out of his last 10 games and we were mid table). He saved us from relegation the season before too. The club has still never given a reason why he was fired. When they sacked him he asked why and they said 'we will tell you later when the dust has settled.' No reason has ever been given and never will be. It's an appalling way to treat someone. It damages the club's reputation and image. Apparently he was very argumentative behind the scenes, and difficult to have dialogue about the future. Sometimes the things we don't see are much more important to the decisions a club makes.
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Post by gaznandi on Nov 2, 2024 13:29:33 GMT
Nothing really but the stats based on the two favoured Schumacher From the looks of it, the stats are based over his whole time here, compared to Pelach’s 6 or so weeks. Which is just meaningless. Regardless, we still finished 17th, looked no better than we have done under previous managers in this league and left the team embarrassingly unfit. The fact people would want him back is odd. Based on this season. Schumacher 1.2 points per game 40% win rate 0.6 goals per game Goals conceded per game 0.6 Tackles per game 16.0 Shot conversion 6% Shots faced per game 13.8 Pelach 0.8 points per game 14% win rate 1.4 goals per game Goals conceded per game 1.6 Tackles per game 14.1 shot conversion 12% Shots faced per game 18.0
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 2, 2024 14:00:41 GMT
His sacking was out of the blue and not justifiable based on results (won 7 out of his last 10 games and we were mid table). He saved us from relegation the season before too. The club has still never given a reason why he was fired. When they sacked him he asked why and they said 'we will tell you later when the dust has settled.' No reason has ever been given and never will be. It's an appalling way to treat someone. It damages the club's reputation and image. The reason was we wanted to go in a different direction. The club have said that. That’s a reason. He might be told in private why, we’ll never know. We finished 17th when he had most of the season. He was poor. I don’t understand this loyalty to someone who come next year will get another job and forget all about Stoke City. Especially when he was so mediocre. If people are basing it on his feelings and him being a nice guy then it’s really odd tbh. It’s not like he’s living pay check to pay check is it. He will 100% get over it and I guarantee no one outside of Stoke City gives a shit how we treated him, even if they did why would it bother you? Well we are certainly going in a different direction
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Post by matelot1996 on Nov 2, 2024 14:05:57 GMT
Derby look a poor side to me. Anything other than a Home win solidifies the perception that we are actually wank.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 2, 2024 17:04:13 GMT
Derby look a poor side to me. Anything other than a Home win solidifies the perception that we are actually wank. They had lost 1 of their last 5 so not that dreadful
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Post by chiswickpotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:36:17 GMT
I don’t get the angle that we treated him poorly? The timing of the sacking was poor, but for the fans and the club, nothing else. He wasn’t doing what we wanted so sacked him. It’s football management, it’s expected and he’ll get over it. His sacking was out of the blue and not justifiable based on results (won 7 out of his last 10 games and we were mid table). He saved us from relegation the season before too. The club has still never given a reason why he was fired. When they sacked him he asked why and they said 'we will tell you later when the dust has settled.' No reason has ever been given and never will be. It's an appalling way to treat someone. It damages the club's reputation and image. Having paid for Watford and Oxford , I couldn’t have been happier to see the back of him. Who knows how Pelach will turn out but the hours he puts in and his attention to detail are miles ahead of SS. Everything from how the suns warm up, his detailed briefing to Koumas today, the time he leaves the training ground are miles apart. I hope he gets the return his effort deserves
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:40:23 GMT
This whole won 7 from 10 is absolute horse spunk.
He had 3 good games at the end of the season. Was wank before and was wank after.
All this mard arsing over a sack of shit.
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Post by chamberlain on Nov 2, 2024 17:43:17 GMT
Derby look a poor side to me. Anything other than a Home win solidifies the perception that we are actually wank. They had lost 1 of their last 5 so not that dreadful Aah but that doesn't suit the narrative
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:45:21 GMT
They had lost 1 of their last 5 so not that dreadful Aah but that doesn't suit the narrative They were fucking shite though. Which was hilarious. This league is the absolute worst.
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Post by chamberlain on Nov 2, 2024 17:48:09 GMT
Aah but that doesn't suit the narrative They were fucking shite though. Which was hilarious. This league is the absolute worst. They still needed to be beaten though , we've lost to plenty of shit teams. I prefer to be positive and put some credit down to our play .
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 17:49:30 GMT
They were huge. Big horrible physical fuckers.
And they hadn’t conceded from a corner all season. And have scored the most from corners.
So given the nature of the win I think we did alright.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:54:10 GMT
They were huge. Big horrible physical fuckers. And they hadn’t conceded from a corner all season. And have scored the most from corners. So given the nature of the win I think we did alright. Were they? 🤣 They looked like a team that didn’t know what a football was. A disjointed rabble. And if they are strong they didn’t show it today. Big bunch of mardarses too busy arguing with each other. Gave me hope I can still make it as a pro.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 2, 2024 18:01:20 GMT
They were huge. Big horrible physical fuckers. And they hadn’t conceded from a corner all season. And have scored the most from corners. So given the nature of the win I think we did alright. Were they? 🤣 They looked like a team that didn’t know what a football was. A disjointed rabble. And if they are strong they didn’t show it today. Big bunch of mardarses too busy arguing with each other. Gave me hope I can still make it as a pro. Bet you’d never miss a penalty…😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 18:03:42 GMT
Were they? 🤣 They looked like a team that didn’t know what a football was. A disjointed rabble. And if they are strong they didn’t show it today. Big bunch of mardarses too busy arguing with each other. Gave me hope I can still make it as a pro. Bet you’d never miss a penalty…😉 I fucking wouldn’t. They’re ridiculously easy things.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 2, 2024 18:03:51 GMT
Why? He wasn’t very good and Pelach has been here 5 mins. He’s got nothing to be smug about if you ask me. Nothing really but the stats based on the two favoured Schumacher and they wouldn't have put them up otherwise.
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