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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 20, 2024 14:48:52 GMT
I have nothing against Deano and of course wish him all the best.
My only concern is they haven't worked together in this dynamic before. There have been many "double acts" at clubs over the years, and when a manager moves then he takes his trusted staff along with him. We really are starting from scratch, and I suppose it is a gamble that the personalities all gel together and the whole team works well together.
Let's hope so.
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Sept 20, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
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Post by a on Sept 20, 2024 15:15:08 GMT
Worked previously at Besiktas so can’t be terrible. It’s funny reading the comments, I never hear much mention of the other 10-20 coaches and back room staff, that was until now…
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Sept 20, 2024 15:26:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 15:26:51 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player.
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Post by chell_rosey on Sept 20, 2024 15:37:59 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player. The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? |
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Post by ange1 on Sept 20, 2024 15:54:04 GMT
Who decided on his return has he any connection with the new head coach Narcis stated at the press conference that Whitehead was his choice and Walters confirmed that |
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 20, 2024 15:58:49 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player. Dean Whitehead was a much better player than Tony Waddington or Tony Pulis. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 20, 2024 16:11:05 GMT
Who we gonna call.....
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Whitehead
Sept 20, 2024 16:20:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 16:20:35 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player. The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. |
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Post by Linx on Sept 20, 2024 16:23:30 GMT
Im not against whitehead per se, but I’m a bit concerned about so many ex Stoke players being coaches here. It could become a bit of a clique and a single voice that the HC is outside of. I’d prefer more diversity and and I think dissenting voices/ different view points are usually key in a coaching set up. There are some advantages in everyone pushing in the same direction as long is that direction is the right one, let’s hope it is. It’s all a bit one dimensional for me and certainly adding to the risk factor. Having successful ex-players as part of the coaching set up is sound practice. It underpins club ethos and respect, a desire to bring in a layer of influence who understand what the club is about. It never did Liverpool any harm with its boot room, or Arsenal (Wenger retained the services of Pat Rice and wasn’t Bob Wilson their GK coach alongside his media career?). |
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Post by Linx on Sept 20, 2024 16:26:39 GMT
The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. Seems to me that we’ve never had a player who wasn’t awful, according to you, Bayern. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 20, 2024 16:48:26 GMT
The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. He was fairly average though he did score against the Arse in the cup so he gets kudos for that |
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Sept 20, 2024 16:51:53 GMT
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Post by pavel on Sept 20, 2024 16:51:53 GMT
Im not against whitehead per se, but I’m a bit concerned about so many ex Stoke players being coaches here. It could become a bit of a clique and a single voice that the HC is outside of. I’d prefer more diversity and and I think dissenting voices/ different view points are usually key in a coaching set up. There are some advantages in everyone pushing in the same direction as long is that direction is the right one, let’s hope it is. It’s all a bit one dimensional for me and certainly adding to the risk factor. How do we know there isn't any different viewpoints and string conversations to come between the coaching staff. I dont believe for 1 minute they will sit like nodding dogs and offer no input at all. But at the end of the day its the head coach who had the final say on team matters.. different viewpoints yes but not dissenting voices that is not what any team in any walk of life needs I think the hint is “it could become” as for dissenting voices, they are crucial in any business when done in a constructive manner. |
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Post by moon on Sept 20, 2024 16:56:54 GMT
It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. Seems to me that we’ve never had a player who wasn’t awful, according to you, Bayern. There was that young Belgian winger he was a big fan of, the name escapes me though. |
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Sept 20, 2024 16:59:55 GMT
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Post by hamsta2 on Sept 20, 2024 16:59:55 GMT
Seems to me that we’ve never had a player who wasn’t awful, according to you, Bayern. There was that young Belgian winger he was a big fan of, the name escapes me though. The megastar. Verlinden. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 20, 2024 17:01:16 GMT
This was the model people wanted wasn't it?
The staff are hired by the Director of Football/Technical Director...the Head Coach is just one of those staff.
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Post by Linx on Sept 20, 2024 17:02:48 GMT
Seems to me that we’ve never had a player who wasn’t awful, according to you, Bayern. There was that young Belgian winger he was a big fan of, the name escapes me though. Thibauld Verlinden? That was probably because he was more successful after leaving us, which meant Bayern could accuse Stoke management of being awful.😜 |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 20, 2024 17:05:31 GMT
The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. I mean, that's just absolute bollocks. Whitehead wasn't exactly Pirlo, but he was virtually an ever present in the top flight for both ourselves and Sunderland. |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:07:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 17:07:42 GMT
It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. Seems to me that we’ve never had a player who wasn’t awful, according to you, Bayern. There’s been plenty. Whitehead was signed for a lot of money for the time and never made the team better despite being given so many chances. |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:08:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 17:08:22 GMT
It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. I mean, that's just absolute bollocks. Whitehead wasn't exactly Pirlo, but he was virtually an ever present in the top flight for both ourselves and Sunderland. There’s plenty of shit players that have played lots. |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:11:59 GMT
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Post by moon on Sept 20, 2024 17:11:59 GMT
It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. I mean, that's just absolute bollocks. Whitehead wasn't exactly Pirlo, but he was virtually an ever present in the top flight for both ourselves and Sunderland. I’m with Bayern on this one, Whitehead was bang average at best, and we spent about £5m on him if I recall correctly, some deal for Sunderland. |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:24:52 GMT
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Post by hamsta2 on Sept 20, 2024 17:24:52 GMT
I mean, that's just absolute bollocks. Whitehead wasn't exactly Pirlo, but he was virtually an ever present in the top flight for both ourselves and Sunderland. I’m with Bayern on this one, Whitehead was bang average at best, and we spent about £5m on him if I recall correctly, some deal for Sunderland. £3m plus add ons up to £5m. I can think of a lot worse we’ve chucked money at. Decent pro in my humble opinion. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 20, 2024 17:29:44 GMT
I mean, that's just absolute bollocks. Whitehead wasn't exactly Pirlo, but he was virtually an ever present in the top flight for both ourselves and Sunderland. I’m with Bayern on this one, Whitehead was bang average at best, and we spent about £5m on him if I recall correctly, some deal for Sunderland. Average I can happily go with, and I wouldn't argue that we overpaid either. That's a lot different than being shit though. The bloke ran his bollocks off for us every week. Players like him deserve a bit more credit and respect IMO. |
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Post by stokief on Sept 20, 2024 17:30:10 GMT
Some players just aren't fancy dan enough for some folk I guess. If he'd had flowing locks and an exotic look he'd've probably been some fans favorite. Good Pro who had a very, very decent stint in the Premier league which shouldn't be knocked but hey?!  |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:32:39 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 17:32:39 GMT
I’m with Bayern on this one, Whitehead was bang average at best, and we spent about £5m on him if I recall correctly, some deal for Sunderland. Average I can happily go with, and I wouldn't argue that we overpaid either. That's a lot different than being shit though. The bloke ran his bollocks off for us every week. Players like him deserve a bit more credit and respect IMO. He couldn’t pass. Could barely tackle and was just awful. He ran a lot. Who cares? |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 20, 2024 17:37:06 GMT
The cheapest of shots. Is there really any point? It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. His efforts alongside others kept us comfortably in the Premier league. For that he has my respect |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:40:32 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 20, 2024 17:40:32 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player. Let’s hope he’s as hard working as he was as a player. Sorry. Ard working. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 20, 2024 17:41:36 GMT
I’m with Bayern on this one, Whitehead was bang average at best, and we spent about £5m on him if I recall correctly, some deal for Sunderland. Average I can happily go with, and I wouldn't argue that we overpaid either. That's a lot different than being shit though. The bloke ran his bollocks off for us every week. Players like him deserve a bit more credit and respect IMO. Especially when you look at the fuckers who’ve basically taken our cash for sweet FA since relegation. |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:44:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 17:44:03 GMT
It’s just a fact. Awful player. He needs to be a better coach than his efforts on the field. His efforts alongside others kept us comfortably in the Premier league. For that he has my respect He was bought to replace Whelan and never could. And Whelan really was just above average. |
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 20, 2024 17:44:09 GMT
Worked previously at Besiktas so can’t be terrible. It’s funny reading the comments, I never hear much mention of the other 10-20 coaches and back room staff, that was until now… If he’s worked at Besiktas he was more than likely only there on loan 😆 |
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Sept 20, 2024 17:44:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2024 17:44:42 GMT
Let’s hope he’s a better coach than he was a player. Let’s hope he’s as hard working as he was as a player. Sorry. Ard working. Hard working. Who fucking cares. He struggled with football. |
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