Baker

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:10:46 GMT bertiestan said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:08:46 GMT bayernoatcake said:

If all three go we’re left with:

Thompson
Burger
Moran
Sidibe

Who are fit.

Lawal and Pearson who are out for a bit.

Still seems overkill to get the Japanese lad and Cundle imo.

There’s no way they’re letting them go without replacements, I see Seko for Laurent n Cundle for Baker while promoting Sol for Johnson🔴⚪️

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

[stokest5]

Aug 29, 2024 14:40:01 GMT Bojan Mackey said:

I don’t mind Baker but it’s clear something has gone on behind the scenes, I think he’ll be a standout player for Blackburn personally.

Probably will at first then his form will dwindle. He’s followed a similar pattern at his many clubs.

Not too bothered either way I think his eye for goal and set piece delivery’s masked the rest of his poor attributes in midfield.Hopefully we get an upgrade.

[lordb]

Aug 29, 2024 14:32:09 GMT chuckrocky said:

Aug 29, 2024 14:29:20 GMT FullerMagic said:

Really poor if it’s a loan, surely we could have got some money for him?

Given his higher than average wages not surprised

[bertiestan]

Aug 29, 2024 16:11:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:10:46 GMT bertiestan said:

There’s no way they’re letting them go without replacements, I see Seko for Laurent n Cundle for Baker while promoting Sol for Johnson🔴⚪️

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

I get your point🔴⚪️

[apb1]

Aug 29, 2024 16:11:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:10:46 GMT bertiestan said:

There’s no way they’re letting them go without replacements, I see Seko for Laurent n Cundle for Baker while promoting Sol for Johnson🔴⚪️

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

Thompson is a bit part player if we want to get anywhere, who knows when Lawal back from injury, Sidibe won't be starting week in week out (this is my guess although he is good enough imho), Pearson out till November.

I guess the Japanese lad could be RB cover too?

[lordb]

Aug 29, 2024 14:49:05 GMT tommycarlsberg said:

We need some more height in the midfield.

Lawal

[lordb]

Aug 29, 2024 16:11:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:10:46 GMT bertiestan said:

There’s no way they’re letting them go without replacements, I see Seko for Laurent n Cundle for Baker while promoting Sol for Johnson🔴⚪️

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

Pearson will be out the door soon enough
Would take Cundle if we can
That would be 6
Or 7 if Bae is going to play centrally

Don't see any need for Seko

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:13:26 GMT bertiestan said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:11:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

I get your point🔴⚪️

Moran looks like the same player as Cundle but a bit better.

And both would be expecting to play more than not and they’d essentially be fighting over the one role.

It just seems a bit much to me.

You’re just creating problems by bringing more in. And blocking the path of a player who one day will probably be better than they all ever will be.

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:14:20 GMT apb1 said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:11:45 GMT bayernoatcake said:

But we don’t need 8 central midfielders who will all be expecting to start.

That’s insane.

Thompson is a bit part player if we want to get anywhere, who knows when Lawal back from injury, Sidibe won't be starting week in week out (this is my guess although he is good enough imho), Pearson out till November.

I guess the Japanese lad could be RB cover too?

The right back thing seems like a thing concocted by Stoke fans because they don’t like Junior?

I just think it’s too many even with Lawal and Pearson.

5 front line central midfielders with the prospect of Lawal back by October and Pearson later seems like plenty to me.

And then you have the option of Junho playing there too with Koumas on the left.

[thornestein]

Aug 29, 2024 14:32:09 GMT chuckrocky said:

Aug 29, 2024 14:29:20 GMT FullerMagic said:

Really poor if it’s a loan, surely we could have got some money for him?

not if no one wanted pay any money , getting him off the wage bill is good enough

[apb1]

Aug 29, 2024 16:20:19 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:14:20 GMT apb1 said:

Thompson is a bit part player if we want to get anywhere, who knows when Lawal back from injury, Sidibe won't be starting week in week out (this is my guess although he is good enough imho), Pearson out till November.

I guess the Japanese lad could be RB cover too?

The right back thing seems like a thing concocted by Stoke fans because they don’t like Junior?

I just think it’s too many even with Lawal and Pearson.

5 front line central midfielders with the prospect of Lawal back by October and Pearson later seems like plenty to me.

And then you have the option of Junho playing there too with Koumas on the left.

I reckon Pearson might go in January. I know nothing about Japanese football but seems weird to have heard all this if he's not signing. He's the one I can't see the point of.

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:22:24 GMT apb1 said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:20:19 GMT bayernoatcake said:

The right back thing seems like a thing concocted by Stoke fans because they don’t like Junior?

I just think it’s too many even with Lawal and Pearson.

5 front line central midfielders with the prospect of Lawal back by October and Pearson later seems like plenty to me.

And then you have the option of Junho playing there too with Koumas on the left.

I reckon Pearson might go in January. I know nothing about Japanese football but seems weird to have heard all this if he's not signing. He's the one I can't see the point of.

Yeah he doesn’t seem a knock your socks off sort of signing does he. But from the sound of it fits the deeper roles.

I just don’t get why you’d have Moran and Cundle. It’s doing neither of them any favours. And if it was a loan for Cundle you’re just pissing two clubs off. And if we buy him, we are blocking the development of our own player with a loanee who is the same sort of player.

Just seems like fuzzy logic to me.

[premieraj]

Couldn’t Moran and Cundle play as 8s with burger or Laval holding midfielder?

[apb1]

Aug 29, 2024 16:30:53 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:22:24 GMT apb1 said:

I reckon Pearson might go in January. I know nothing about Japanese football but seems weird to have heard all this if he's not signing. He's the one I can't see the point of.

Yeah he doesn’t seem a knock your socks off sort of signing does he. But from the sound of it fits the deeper roles.

I just don’t get why you’d have Moran and Cundle. It’s doing neither of them any favours. And if it was a loan for Cundle you’re just pissing two clubs off. And if we buy him, we are blocking the development of our own player with a loanee who is the same sort of player.

Just seems like fuzzy logic to me.

On the other hand having 5 subs could be a factor. Would be nice to have players on bench who can be considered first teamers!

And I think from limited time watching Moran he is slightly different to Cundle, maybe a bit deeper. And Schumacher allegedly likes two forward thinking midfielders. Imagine!

[Laughing Gravy]

Aug 29, 2024 16:21:45 GMT thornestein said:

Aug 29, 2024 14:32:09 GMT chuckrocky said:

Really poor if it’s a loan, surely we could have got some money for him?

not if no one wanted pay any money , getting him off the wage bill is good enough

Exactly.
We've basically let him go on a free to get his wages off the books.

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:33:32 GMT apb1 said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:30:53 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Yeah he doesn’t seem a knock your socks off sort of signing does he. But from the sound of it fits the deeper roles.

I just don’t get why you’d have Moran and Cundle. It’s doing neither of them any favours. And if it was a loan for Cundle you’re just pissing two clubs off. And if we buy him, we are blocking the development of our own player with a loanee who is the same sort of player.

Just seems like fuzzy logic to me.

On the other hand having 5 subs could be a factor. Would be nice to have players on bench who can be considered first teamers!

And I think from limited time watching Moran he is slightly different to Cundle, maybe a bit deeper. And Schumacher allegedly likes two forward thinking midfielders. Imagine!

But Sidibe, Burger and Lawal are all more forward thinking than not. All box to boxers.

[lordb]

Aug 29, 2024 16:36:26 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:33:32 GMT apb1 said:

On the other hand having 5 subs could be a factor. Would be nice to have players on bench who can be considered first teamers!

And I think from limited time watching Moran he is slightly different to Cundle, maybe a bit deeper. And Schumacher allegedly likes two forward thinking midfielders. Imagine!

But Sidibe, Burger and Lawal are all more forward thinking than not. All box to boxers.

All 3 can hold too

Could see games with no holding player - it's not always necessary -too

[thornestein]

Aug 29, 2024 16:17:54 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:13:26 GMT bertiestan said:

I get your point🔴⚪️

Moran looks like the same player as Cundle but a bit better.

And both would be expecting to play more than not and they’d essentially be fighting over the one role.

It just seems a bit much to me.

You’re just creating problems by bringing more in. And blocking the path of a player who one day will probably be better than they all ever will be.

you’re forgetting that SS as said numerous times he likes to play with two 8’s , so signing Cundle would make sense , i don’t there’s anything in the Seko link

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:37:51 GMT lordb said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:36:26 GMT bayernoatcake said:

But Sidibe, Burger and Lawal are all more forward thinking than not. All box to boxers.

All 3 can hold too

Could see games with no holding player - it's not always necessary -too

It isn’t but that’s why you don’t need Cundle and the Japanese dude. It’s just too many midfielders.

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:37:51 GMT thornestein said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:17:54 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Moran looks like the same player as Cundle but a bit better.

And both would be expecting to play more than not and they’d essentially be fighting over the one role.

It just seems a bit much to me.

You’re just creating problems by bringing more in. And blocking the path of a player who one day will probably be better than they all ever will be.

you’re forgetting that SS as said numerous times he likes to play with two 8’s , so signing Cundle would make sense , i don’t there’s anything in the Seko link

I’m not ignoring that. Lawal, Burger and Sidibe all fit the bill for being number 8s.

[Staffsoatcake]

With Baker going,are there any players in the squad,able to score from outside the box?

[thornestein]

Aug 29, 2024 16:40:09 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:37:51 GMT thornestein said:

you’re forgetting that SS as said numerous times he likes to play with two 8’s , so signing Cundle would make sense , i don’t there’s anything in the Seko link

I’m not ignoring that. Lawal, Burger and Sidibe all fit the bill for being number 8s.

not for me , and i’m not saying i rate Cundle , Burger as played mostly as a DM , Lawal hasn’t played as an 8 , and Sidibe is better sitting deep

[apb1]

Aug 29, 2024 16:40:50 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

With Baker going,are there any players in the squad,able to score from outside the box?

Manhoef. Cundle got one didn't he?

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:41:44 GMT thornestein said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:40:09 GMT bayernoatcake said:

I’m not ignoring that. Lawal, Burger and Sidibe all fit the bill for being number 8s.

not for me , and i’m not saying i rate Cundle , Burger as played mostly as a DM , Lawal hasn’t played as an 8 , and Sidibe is better sitting deep

Burger is box to box. He’s best starting deep and arriving late in the box.

Sidibe can do anything. Stupid to label him imo. And he’s not better deeper. Not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion!

Lawal’s best feature seems his driving forward with the ball. That’s a number 8.

[bridgnorthstokie]

Aug 29, 2024 16:20:19 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:14:20 GMT apb1 said:

Thompson is a bit part player if we want to get anywhere, who knows when Lawal back from injury, Sidibe won't be starting week in week out (this is my guess although he is good enough imho), Pearson out till November.

I guess the Japanese lad could be RB cover too?

The right back thing seems like a thing concocted by Stoke fans because they don’t like Junior?

I just think it’s too many even with Lawal and Pearson.

5 front line central midfielders with the prospect of Lawal back by October and Pearson later seems like plenty to me.

And then you have the option of Junho playing there too with Koumas on the left.

In regards to stoke fans not liking junior. I find it incredible our fans cry out for us to scour the lower leagues for the best talent, we do that and spend good money on the highly rated young right back regarded as the best in the lower leagues, he has a season as understudy here to hoover, with monthly cries on this forum to get junior in the team. New season starts and within 5 games fans have decided nah, he's no good.never want to see him play for stoke again.

Give the lad a chance to develop and improve.

[bridgnorthstokie]

Aug 29, 2024 16:40:50 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

With Baker going,are there any players in the squad,able to score from outside the box?

Manhoef.

[premieraj]

Aug 29, 2024 16:43:48 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:41:44 GMT thornestein said:

not for me , and i’m not saying i rate Cundle , Burger as played mostly as a DM , Lawal hasn’t played as an 8 , and Sidibe is better sitting deep

Burger is box to box. He’s best starting deep and arriving late in the box.

Sidibe can do anything. Stupid to label him imo. And he’s not better deeper. Not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion!

Lawal’s best feature seems his driving forward with the ball. That’s a number 8.

You are forgetting Thommo 😃😂

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:44:04 GMT bridgnorthstokie said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:20:19 GMT bayernoatcake said:

The right back thing seems like a thing concocted by Stoke fans because they don’t like Junior?

I just think it’s too many even with Lawal and Pearson.

5 front line central midfielders with the prospect of Lawal back by October and Pearson later seems like plenty to me.

And then you have the option of Junho playing there too with Koumas on the left.

In regards to stoke fans not liking junior. I find it incredible our fans cry out for us to scour the lower leagues for the best talent, we do that and spend good money on the highly rated young right back regarded as the best in the lower leagues, he has a season as understudy here to hoover, with monthly cries on this forum to get junior in the team. New season starts and within 5 games fans have decided nah, he's no good.never want to see him play for stoke again.

Give the lad a chance to develop and improve.

Send him out on loan I say

🤣

Seriously though, totally agree. It’s pathetic.

[thornestein]

Aug 29, 2024 16:43:48 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:41:44 GMT thornestein said:

not for me , and i’m not saying i rate Cundle , Burger as played mostly as a DM , Lawal hasn’t played as an 8 , and Sidibe is better sitting deep

Burger is box to box. He’s best starting deep and arriving late in the box.

Sidibe can do anything. Stupid to label him imo. And he’s not better deeper. Not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion!

Lawal’s best feature seems his driving forward with the ball. That’s a number 8.

it’s only here where Burger hasn’t played as a 6 , everywhere else he’s played the majority of his games as a 6 because that’s his best position, he wonders to much when further forward and that’s why we don’t see him at his best

[bayernoatcake]

Aug 29, 2024 16:51:20 GMT thornestein said:

Aug 29, 2024 16:43:48 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Burger is box to box. He’s best starting deep and arriving late in the box.

Sidibe can do anything. Stupid to label him imo. And he’s not better deeper. Not sure how you’ve come to that conclusion!

Lawal’s best feature seems his driving forward with the ball. That’s a number 8.

it’s only here where Burger hasn’t played as a 6 , everywhere else he’s played the majority of his games as a 6 because that’s his best position, he wonders to much when further forward and that’s why we don’t see him at his best

He can defend and attack and his shooting and passing are really good. It’s a waste having him deep.

We have seen him at his best though. I think he’s been excellent overall.