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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 2, 2024 20:48:06 GMT
It won't let me view the thread now. If not just me...🤣 Me neither - looks like they've locked their board. Petulant children.  There's no fucking way they've actually put their entire forum into lockdown?!?! |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 2, 2024 20:50:41 GMT
Per Companies House £195m of shares issued in Stoke City Holdings Ltd today to John Coates who takes over control from Peter Coates and Bet365. Shares issued for property. So all control now rests with JC and the Stoke balance sheet is significantly more healthy. I’m not an expert on FFP but all seems good from a Stoke financial perspective - only issue is whether you see JC as a good thing being 100% owner of the club. It’s a good position to maintain when you’re arguing against or for reform of FFP. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Aug 2, 2024 20:58:01 GMT
It won't let me view the thread now. If not just me...🤣 Me neither - looks like they've locked their board. Petulant children.   I've got nothing against Bristol City but fuck me, they're such a sensitive lot aren't they? 😂 |
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Post by BrummiePotter on Aug 2, 2024 20:58:34 GMT
Apologies, approx £133m shares issued today - £195m is the total shares in issue. Of the £133m, approx £40m issued in cash so don’t know whether that relates to cash injection or some accounting adjustment. The rest relates to property. Either way the Club is significantly more secure than it was 24 hours ago. Whether that security sits in the right hands is a matter of opinion but I’m willing to give JC the benefit of the doubt for the moment. |
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 2, 2024 21:53:09 GMT
But it was our shit hole and I well remember about 50 thousand of us packed in watching Real Madrid. The Brit ot Bet365 never got close to that Plenty of times was less than 14 k watching top flight football. The BET365 never got close to that. In fact it was quite normal to have about 13/14k for top flight games To be fair, that was at a time when attendances everywhere except the really big clubs were pretty low. For example, 1993 Arsenal's average home attendance was 24,403. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 2, 2024 22:42:49 GMT
Plenty of times was less than 14 k watching top flight football. The BET365 never got close to that. In fact it was quite normal to have about 13/14k for top flight games To be fair, that was at a time when attendances everywhere except the really big clubs were pretty low. For example, 1993 Arsenal's average home attendance was 24,403. We weren't exactly pulling them in second half of the 70s/80s either in fact crowds now are far better than back then across the board...when football was football apparently We get far better crowds now in a lower division than the packed, raucous Victoria Ground |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 2, 2024 22:44:41 GMT
Dear Bristol Shitty
Ha, Ha ha, Ha ha
Yours
Stoke City 🖕🖕
P.s.
Dontcha wish your owners were as great as ours
Dontcha
Dontcha
😂😂
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 2, 2024 22:46:54 GMT
Plenty of times was less than 14 k watching top flight football. The BET365 never got close to that. In fact it was quite normal to have about 13/14k for top flight games To be fair, that was at a time when attendances everywhere except the really big clubs were pretty low. For example, 1993 Arsenal's average home attendance was 24,403. Thus proving that the scum are and always will be, cunts. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 2, 2024 23:10:57 GMT
It was the Victoria Ground when I started also, but that was the Victoria Ground, this ground will always be the Brit... Still call it that now Brittania Building Society were sponsors but not now, may as well stay as Bet365 or attract a new sponsor You're missing my point 😂 |
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 2, 2024 23:20:54 GMT
We drove a tractor through his life's work last night (oo-arr, oo-arr)
They locked their forum so our trolls would keep quiet (oo-arr, oo-arr)
Now something's telling me
That he's avoiding me
So much for Pop's Dunning-Kruger-laden screeds
Cos we've got brand new corporate ownership
We're totally debt-free
Come on now, repeat together:
Fuck you, Bristol City
We own our own stadium
Got it back for free
Cos we've got brand new corporate ownership
Fuck Bristol City
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 3, 2024 5:16:31 GMT
This'll stop the self-righteous blathering on about Stoke being owned by a betting company.
Possibly looking ahead to upcoming FFP reform too.
Restructuring in order to eliminate debt sounds wise.
And we're not owned by Sheik Yerbouti or some other sports washing money-laundering crime syndicate.
All infrastructure improvements to continue on schedule, according to John.
Sounds good to me.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 3, 2024 5:39:04 GMT
All seems rather dodgy to me I’m pretty sure they will be paying lawyers a lot of money to sort it out properly. |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 3, 2024 5:42:11 GMT
It doesn't affect what we can spend on transfers at all So what’s with the timing of this? Why now? Why not at the end of the window? Or have they done it just before the season starts? Either way the timing is making me think more, don’t know why or what If it’s like our signing announcements it was probably signed off months ago |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 3, 2024 5:50:58 GMT
All seems rather dodgy to me I’m pretty sure they will be paying lawyers a lot of money to sort it out properly. I'm pretty sure this will have been agreed with the footballing authorities. The Coates family have a reputation in the game as good owners and it really isn't in anyone's interests to get them out. The government are going to pressure the league to distance itself from online gambling so this solves the problem for all concerned. I'd be surprised if there are any repercussions. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Aug 3, 2024 6:25:12 GMT
Best name for the stadium in my opinion would be The Victoria Ground. Totally neutral and historic. See I believe we should revert it back to the Britannia Stadium. Irrelevant of the old company that no longer exists, Britannia is a good solid and historic name also that I think would be a really nice touch. Plus you could use the same road signs and just peel off the Bet365 Stadium stickers they plastered over the top 🤣 |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 7:14:31 GMT
Best name for the stadium in my opinion would be The Victoria Ground. Totally neutral and historic. See I believe we should revert it back to the Britannia Stadium. Irrelevant of the old company that no longer exists, Britannia is a good solid and historic name also that I think would be a really nice touch. Plus you could use the same road signs and just peel off the Bet365 Stadium stickers they plastered over the top 🤣 Just call it whatever you want. I still sit in the sentinel stand. I don’t give a fuck what they’ve named it or how many times it’s change. |
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Post by spoton on Aug 3, 2024 7:51:40 GMT
Apologies, approx £133m shares issued today - £195m is the total shares in issue. Of the £133m, approx £40m issued in cash so don’t know whether that relates to cash injection or some accounting adjustment. The rest relates to property. Either way the Club is significantly more secure than it was 24 hours ago. Whether that security sits in the right hands is a matter of opinion but I’m willing to give JC the benefit of the doubt for the moment. To me the club is in a prime position to be bought out right,if it goes tits up on the field I would expect that John would put the feelers out and not go through the same shit he has for the last few years |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 3, 2024 7:56:39 GMT
Either way the Club is significantly more secure than it was 24 hours ago. Whether that security sits in the right hands is a matter of opinion but I’m willing to give JC the benefit of the doubt for the moment. To me the club is in a prime position to be bought out right,if it goes tits up on the field I would expect that John would put the feelers out and not go through the same shit he has for the last few years Not a prayer , we’ve incredible owners , who are incredibly committed and emotionally connected . |
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 3, 2024 8:00:21 GMT
Why the rush to rename the stadium, have the rules changed yet regarding betting firms involvement,
I would guess that bet 365 will still pay to sponsor the ground so why turn your back on that guaranteed income..
same with shirts, until new laws come in, why change ? Who else would pay as much ? …
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 8:02:10 GMT
Either way the Club is significantly more secure than it was 24 hours ago. Whether that security sits in the right hands is a matter of opinion but I’m willing to give JC the benefit of the doubt for the moment. To me the club is in a prime position to be bought out right,if it goes tits up on the field I would expect that John would put the feelers out and not go through the same shit he has for the last few years I think he cares too much. I think the way we’ve been run these last 5/6 years is rather ironic really. It’s like he’s a gambling addict chasing his losses because he wants that rush of winning and being the hero. But he keeps failing and coming back for more. I could be way off but from the outside looking in, that’s exactly what it feels like to me. |
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Post by thornestein on Aug 3, 2024 8:02:25 GMT
Why the rush to rename the stadium, have the rules changed yet regarding betting firms involvement, I would guess that bet 365 will still pay to sponsor the ground so why turn your back on that guaranteed income.. same with shirts, until new laws come in, why change ? Who else would pay as much ? … they probably sponsored for a few years anyway , can’t change it until deal runs out and they’re more than likely renew |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 8:02:46 GMT
To me the club is in a prime position to be bought out right,if it goes tits up on the field I would expect that John would put the feelers out and not go through the same shit he has for the last few years Not a prayer , we’ve incredible owners , who are incredibly committed and emotionally connected . That’s what he said yesterday. He did look absolutely wired while he was talking mind. Like he might get the Leris money and whack the lot up his nose over the weekend. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 3, 2024 8:10:22 GMT
Not a prayer , we’ve incredible owners , who are incredibly committed and emotionally connected . That’s what he said yesterday. He did look absolutely wired while he was talking mind. Like he might get the Leris money and whack the lot up his nose over the weekend. I know your being gently funny but on a serious note What I think people miss with him is susbstance over “ style “. People can criticise the decisions legitimately but here again is real huge personal commitment not exceeded or even seldom matched by any owner in the uk let alone one of our size and scale . |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 3, 2024 8:11:56 GMT
All seems rather dodgy to me Why? Makes sense with all the legislation that is around the corner and if indeed bet365 want to expand which wouldn't surprise me. I'm no accountant by any means but just looks like we have used another company owned by the owners to clear our debts. It might be legal to do but just seems like a loophole for rich owners which gives an unfair advantage. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 8:15:59 GMT
That’s what he said yesterday. He did look absolutely wired while he was talking mind. Like he might get the Leris money and whack the lot up his nose over the weekend. I know your being gently  funny but on a serious note What I think people miss with him is susbstance over “ style “. People can criticise the decisions legitimately but here again is real huge personal commitment not exceeded or even seldom matched by any owner in the uk let alone one of our size and scale . On a serious note it’s not so much the decisions I’d criticise it’s his inability to believe in anything. Copy and paste from a BBC article where Pep is talking about the ex Leicester now Chelsea boss. And as a manager he has success because he has the most important thing. To be a manager is believing something deeply but, really, deeply, deeply. "And whatever the results, I stick with my idea. And that's why he believes in what he does. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 3, 2024 8:17:53 GMT
I know your being gently funny but on a serious note What I think people miss with him is susbstance over “ style “. People can criticise the decisions legitimately but here again is real huge personal commitment not exceeded or even seldom matched by any owner in the uk let alone one of our size and scale . On a serious note it’s not so much the decisions I’d criticise it’s his inability to believe in anything. Copy and paste from a BBC article where Pep is talking about the ex Leicester now Chelsea boss. And as a manager he has success because he has the most important thing. To be a manager is believing something deeply but, really, deeply, deeply. "And whatever the results, I stick with my idea. And that's why he believes in what he does. Fair comment but I do think in Walter’s , King and Smith amd JC they’ve found a cabal that gives reason to believe |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 8:20:14 GMT
Why? Makes sense with all the legislation that is around the corner and if indeed bet365 want to expand which wouldn't surprise me. I'm no accountant by any means but just looks like we have used another company owned by the owners to clear our debts. It might be legal to do but just seems like a loophole for rich owners which gives an unfair advantage. It's what big business does all the time separate companies bailing each other out.. we have rich owners why shouldn't we do it unfair or not? How many times over the years have we seen other clubs wiping their feet over us when we had nothing and were basically in the gutter? Not saying it right but how it is we'd be mad not to exploit it, still think it got alot to do with the new legislation that will be coming out though I bet they have had their ear to the ground Edit not really an unfair advantage either not as if we can spend any more money. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 8:26:15 GMT
I'm no accountant by any means but just looks like we have used another company owned by the owners to clear our debts. It might be legal to do but just seems like a loophole for rich owners which gives an unfair advantage. It's what big business does all the time separate companies bailing each other out.. we have rich owners why shouldn't we do it unfair or not? How many times over the years have we seen other clubs wiping their feet over us when we had nothing and were basically in the gutter? Not saying it right but how it is we'd be mad not to exploit it, still think it got alot to do with the new legislation that will be coming out though I bet they have had their ear to the ground They will be at the table. Trying to make it not happen. Nevermind their ear to the ground. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 8:27:13 GMT
On a serious note it’s not so much the decisions I’d criticise it’s his inability to believe in anything. Copy and paste from a BBC article where Pep is talking about the ex Leicester now Chelsea boss. And as a manager he has success because he has the most important thing. To be a manager is believing something deeply but, really, deeply, deeply. "And whatever the results, I stick with my idea. And that's why he believes in what he does. Fair comment but I  do think in Walter’s , King and Smith amd JC  they’ve found a cabal that gives reason to believe I’ve seen no evidence of what they actually believe in deeply but really deeply deeply other than wanting success. I mean they might do but from the outside it seems like they change what they believe deeply in really deeply deeply at an alarming rate. They put far too much emphasis on believing in the next messiah rather than having an organisation that actually has an ethos it believes in and is a constant guide. Hopefully this time is different but would you really pick a bloke with zero track record to implement something you believed deeply in. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 8:34:18 GMT
It's what big business does all the time separate companies bailing each other out.. we have rich owners why shouldn't we do it unfair or not? How many times over the years have we seen other clubs wiping their feet over us when we had nothing and were basically in the gutter? Not saying it right but how it is we'd be mad not to exploit it, still think it got alot to do with the new legislation that will be coming out though I bet they have had their ear to the ground They will be at the table. Trying to make it not happen. Nevermind their ear to the ground. No doubt but I still think it's alot to do with it, I think even they know it is coming. |
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