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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 15, 2024 9:52:37 GMT
Gallagher & Cannon,Gallaghers partners seem to score loads of goals,let's just hope it works with these two.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Sept 15, 2024 10:07:28 GMT
Regularly outcoached and has shown little to suggest he knows his best team or sometimes even shat he's doing.
Talks a great game, but often beaten by teams that simply are set up well and are sharper and fitter.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 15, 2024 10:08:19 GMT
I think he's trying too hard and taking risks (Gooch AM) he needn't take. We've got a young, exciting squad who should only get better. It's obvious which systems they're better in (4231 with a BTB in the 2, 433 with the DM behind two CMs), stick to it and keep players in familiar positions, let the opposition worry about us far more than we worry about them.
The Championship is competitive because there's very little between top and bottom, and the clubs in and around the playoffs are nothing special. There's no need to be experimenting with RBs at AM or inverted full backs at this level.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 15, 2024 10:10:50 GMT
I think he's trying too hard and taking risks (Gooch AM) he needn't take. We've got a young, exciting squad who should only get better. It's obvious which systems they're better in (4231 with a BTB in the 2, 433 with the DM behind two CMs), stick to it and keep players in familiar positions, let the opposition worry about us far more than we worry about them. The Championship is competitive because there's very little between top and bottom, and the clubs in and around the playoffs are nothing special. There's no need to be experimenting with RBs at AM or inverted full backs at this level. This. Our managers don’t seem to like to keep it simple. We’ve got the players, just tell them to go out, play football and don’t do anything stupid. Simple. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 15, 2024 10:25:12 GMT
Regularly outcoached and has shown little to suggest he knows his best team or sometimes even shat he's doing. Talks a great game, but often beaten by teams that simply are set up well and are sharper and fitter. This is my worry with him. We don't look particularly well coached do we? You then have to point to well, the head coach for that. If a team is organised and works hard against us, chances are they'll beat us. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 15, 2024 10:38:53 GMT
Regularly outcoached and has shown little to suggest he knows his best team or sometimes even shat he's doing. Talks a great game, but often beaten by teams that simply are set up well and are sharper and fitter. This is my worry with him. We don't look particularly well coached do we? You then have to point to well, the head coach for that. If a team is organised and works hard against us, chances are they'll beat us. I think we will ultimately end up playing a 5 3 2 |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 15, 2024 10:42:50 GMT
I like him and Im still confident he can be a success for us
However its entirely on him now. Weve had a good transfer window IMO, and addressed pretty much all areas that needed addressing. Its up to him to get a tune out of them and progress us
We are going to have bad days and defeats, but limp surrenders to Oxford Utd are not really acceptable and need cutting out sharpish
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 15, 2024 10:45:34 GMT
This is my worry with him. We don't look particularly well coached do we? You then have to point to well, the head coach for that. If a team is organised and works hard against us, chances are they'll beat us. I think we will ultimately end up playing a 5 3 2 Which negates Koumas and Manhoef doesn't it? |
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Post by march4 on Sept 15, 2024 10:46:03 GMT
Where was the motivation?
The very least we expect of any Stoke team is that they will run through the proverbial brick wall.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 15, 2024 10:54:30 GMT
The only positive from yesterday is that we have two games this week in quick succession to put it right. He has to bomb a few players from yesterday and if they play well on Tuesday, stick with it for Friday and move forward with it.
Wouldn't like to be him if we lose either/both mind you. This place will be demanding a sacking.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 15, 2024 10:58:51 GMT
Regularly outcoached and has shown little to suggest he knows his best team or sometimes even shat he's doing. Talks a great game, but often beaten by teams that simply are set up well and are sharper and fitter. Big worry for me, this one. Against the likes of hardened Championship coaches like Corberan, I can maybe accept they might come out on top and outdo him. However, that’s two managers in the first weeks of the season, in Cleverley and Oxford’s manager (I genuinely do not recall his name!) who have easily got one over on him. Two novices at this level and Oxford being a newly promoted, very limited side. |
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 15, 2024 10:59:15 GMT
We still don't look like scoring enough goals though, which is a worry. It was ok Schuey telling Cannon how he wanted his no 9 to play, at least give him some service.
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 15, 2024 11:00:21 GMT
The only positive from yesterday is that we have two games this week in quick succession to put it right. He has to bomb a few players from yesterday and if they play well on Tuesday, stick with it for Friday and move forward with it. Wouldn't like to be him if we lose either/both mind you. This place will be demanding a sacking. If Hull beat us 4 defeats in 6 is crap considering, especially the poor performances too. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 15, 2024 11:11:29 GMT
The only positive from yesterday is that we have two games this week in quick succession to put it right. He has to bomb a few players from yesterday and if they play well on Tuesday, stick with it for Friday and move forward with it. Wouldn't like to be him if we lose either/both mind you. This place will be demanding a sacking. If Hull beat us 4 defeats in 6 is crap considering, especially the poor performances too. Yep, but 3 wins from 6 yields 69 points over the course of a season so it’s a bit of delicate stage when you consider it like that. We’ve got to find some form though, winning one week and losing the next isn’t really something to build your season on. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 15, 2024 12:58:13 GMT
I think we will ultimately end up playing a 5 3 2 Which negates Koumas and Manhoef doesn't it? Yeah unless koumas Plays as the attack mid. No place for junho or million. |
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 15, 2024 13:07:06 GMT
Which negates Koumas and Manhoef doesn't it? Yeah unless koumas Plays as the attack mid. No place for junho or million. No place for Manhoef? There’s not a chance the manager or any sensible person would do that |
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Post by milky on Sept 15, 2024 13:44:13 GMT
I like SS but the big worry for me is again he seemed to want to over complicate things when there's no need.
Like the West Brom game it looked like most weren't sure what they were meant to be doing ,perfectly illustrated with the Keystone Cops moment when Gibson and Wilmot ,2 of the more experienced heads ,end up hugging the right touchline just inside our half and are taken out the game completely.We were lucky Oxford fucked up what was a very good situation for them as our 2 centre backs were AWOL !
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Post by Davef on Sept 15, 2024 15:34:45 GMT
We will end up with Keeper Gooch Wilmot Gibson Phillips Bocat Burger Pearson Moran Cannon Gallagher Will we balls. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Sept 15, 2024 15:38:57 GMT
Watching WBA and they are exactly what we should be. Big powerful team, lots of movement and the players all know their role in things. Such clarity in roles and responsibilities makes the game look easy. They let a load of players go in the TW as well.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 15, 2024 15:47:57 GMT
Absolutely agree re: West Brom, we look a mile off them in the sense of a game plan and looking well drilled. We've had all pre season to work on set up and patterns of play, yet we still look as if we haven't played together before at times.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 15, 2024 16:01:06 GMT
Fucking hell we aren’t half some shower of knicker wetters.
We have a squad packed full of young exciting players. And a young manager willing to play them.
We’re a team in transition and we’ll veer between crap and ace.
If we ever needed our supporters to show some balls and actually take the knocks and roll with them rather than going ultra whiny every single time, it’s now.
Either that or we better start stocking those knicker pads for ladies of a certain age in the club shop. It’s like a tsunami of piss on here after every defeat.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 15, 2024 16:19:40 GMT
Watching WBA and they are exactly what we should be. Big powerful team, lots of movement and the players all know their role in things. Such clarity in roles and responsibilities makes the game look easy. They let a load of players go in the TW as well. And we could sack our manager and get their manager and we'd still be shit 🤔 🙄 |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 15, 2024 16:44:35 GMT
Fucking hell we aren’t half some shower of knicker wetters. We have a squad packed full of young exciting players. And a young manager willing to play them. We’re a team in transition and we’ll veer between crap and ace. If we ever needed our supporters to show some balls and actually take the knocks and roll with them rather than going ultra whiny every single time, it’s now. Either that or we better start stocking those knicker pads for ladies of a certain age in the club shop. It’s like a tsunami of piss on here after every defeat. Fucking hell, we've heard this time and time again in the last SEVEN seasons and time and time again it's the so called 'knicker wetters' who have been proven right. What have we actually achieved in that time? If anything, it's the reactions that have stopped us from performing worse and being a League One club by now. We're incredibly patient all told. I think in the past FIFTEEN seasons we've only won more game than we've lost in like, ONE of them? That's frankly pathetic and arguably the worst record out of the 92 league clubs in total. We were told there was two certainties in life: death and taxes. I'd like to add a third: Stoke City finishing in the bottom half of the Championship. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 15, 2024 16:55:30 GMT
Fucking hell we aren’t half some shower of knicker wetters. We have a squad packed full of young exciting players. And a young manager willing to play them. We’re a team in transition and we’ll veer between crap and ace. If we ever needed our supporters to show some balls and actually take the knocks and roll with them rather than going ultra whiny every single time, it’s now. Either that or we better start stocking those knicker pads for ladies of a certain age in the club shop. It’s like a tsunami of piss on here after every defeat. Fucking hell, we've heard this time and time again in the last SEVEN seasons and time and time again it's the so called 'knicker wetters' who have been proven right. What have we actually achieved in that time? If anything, it's the reactions that have stopped us from performing worse and being a League One club by now. We're incredibly patient all told. I think in the past FIFTEEN seasons we've only won more game than we've lost in like, ONE of them? That's frankly pathetic and arguably the worst record out of the 92 league clubs in total. We were told there was two certainties in life: death and taxes. I'd like to add a third: Stoke City finishing in the bottom half of the Championship. It’s bollocks though. We get a result at Oxford and all is rosy. How the fuck can we judge a team that’s literally been pieced together over the last two weeks? We were shite. Absolute shite. But we were playing a side that had started well at home and we’re still bedding players in. We can be disappointed by all means but I don’t get the big fucking strops. We are what we are. A mid table Championship side. To turn that around will take time and patience. |
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Sept 15, 2024 16:57:28 GMT
Watching WBA and they are exactly what we should be. Big powerful team, lots of movement and the players all know their role in things. Such clarity in roles and responsibilities makes the game look easy. They let a load of players go in the TW as well. And we could sack our manager and get their manager and we'd still be shit 🤔 🙄 Probably. More than personnel, my point was around keeping things simple and players having clarity. There is just too much complication in the game. Stoke have better more hungry players but there still doesn't look a plan or style. It is baffling. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 15, 2024 17:02:19 GMT
And we could sack our manager and get their manager and we'd still be shit 🤔 🙄 Probably. More than personnel, my point was around keeping things simple and players having clarity. There is just too much complication in the game. Stoke have better more hungry players but there still doesn't look a plan or style. It is baffling. I agree mostly. And its why I think we bear with young Schumacher as long as relegation isn't a serious threat. At some point we need to back somebody to turn the tanker around.. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 15, 2024 17:22:30 GMT
Fucking hell we aren’t half some shower of knicker wetters. We have a squad packed full of young exciting players. And a young manager willing to play them. We’re a team in transition and we’ll veer between crap and ace. If we ever needed our supporters to show some balls and actually take the knocks and roll with them rather than going ultra whiny every single time, it’s now. Either that or we better start stocking those knicker pads for ladies of a certain age in the club shop. It’s like a tsunami of piss on here after every defeat. Here he is, the oatcake’s head prefect We should be battering Oxford United. Why accept mediocrity? |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 15, 2024 17:26:51 GMT
I 100% think Corberan would get much more out of this side than the current manager. We have little choice but to give him time to bed the new players in. But beginning to have serious doubts about him.
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Post by redstriper on Sept 15, 2024 17:30:06 GMT
Fucking hell we aren’t half some shower of knicker wetters. We have a squad packed full of young exciting players. And a young manager willing to play them. We’re a team in transition and we’ll veer between crap and ace. If we ever needed our supporters to show some balls and actually take the knocks and roll with them rather than going ultra whiny every single time, it’s now. Either that or we better start stocking those knicker pads for ladies of a certain age in the club shop. It’s like a tsunami of piss on here after every defeat. Fucking hell, we've heard this time and time again in the last SEVEN seasons and time and time again it's the so called 'knicker wetters' who have been proven right. What have we actually achieved in that time? If anything, it's the reactions that have stopped us from performing worse and being a League One club by now. We're incredibly patient all told. I think in the past FIFTEEN seasons we've only won more game than we've lost in like, ONE of them? That's frankly pathetic and arguably the worst record out of the 92 league clubs in total. We were told there was two certainties in life: death and taxes. I'd like to add a third: Stoke City finishing in the bottom half of the Championship. wrong. The knicker wetters have predicted relegation in most of those seasons, so they've only been correct on one occasion. |
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 15, 2024 17:36:40 GMT
I 100% think Corberan would get much more out of this side than the current manager. We have little choice but to give him time to bed the new players in. But beginning to have serious doubts about him. He definitely would. Blackburn were massively in the shit too when they appointed Eustace. Sold their top player. They’re doing more than ok. I remain unconvinced by Schumacher. |
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