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Post by onepara on Sept 14, 2024 15:58:25 GMT
Some did complain. I complained about gooch starting Koumas should have started so should Phillips. No intensity as per normal which should come from the manager. I can’t make my mind up on him As I said bar Gooch, but the players left out were understandable given the amount of games this week and the internationals. I'm 50/50 on him too but today isn't on him for me. Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2024 16:01:32 GMT
As I said bar Gooch, but the players left out were understandable given the amount of games this week and the internationals. I'm 50/50 on him too but today isn't on him for me. Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. So you're saying the only reason the players were so shit is because of the manager, he told them to be second to ever ball, struggle to pass to team mates and create nothing? 😂 Give over. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 14, 2024 16:35:53 GMT
Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. So you're saying the only reason the players were so shit is because of the manager, he told them to be second to ever ball, struggle to pass to team mates and create nothing? 😂 Give over. Whatever. It’s his job to get a tune out of them and if he can’t, sack him. Everyone can have a bad day but we’ve looked more woeful than good this season It’s on him |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 14, 2024 16:37:28 GMT
Some did complain. I complained about gooch starting Koumas should have started so should Phillips. No intensity as per normal which should come from the manager. I can’t make my mind up on him As I said bar Gooch, but the players left out were understandable given the amount of games this week and the internationals. I'm 50/50 on him too but today isn't on him for me. Yeh point taken on the bloody international break it does my head in. I guess we don’t know what certain players have come back like. Just out of interest though did Phillips have any international break. Was surprised he didn’t start |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 14, 2024 16:39:59 GMT
Can we say it's Steven's team now??
Or is another window needed?
Think we may need another clearout😁😁
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 14, 2024 16:59:24 GMT
The thread that will not go away.....
.....until it becomes beyond help!
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 14, 2024 17:05:35 GMT
I've calmed down a bit now.
Please get this working SS as I don't think I could face a new manager search.
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Post by spoton on Sept 14, 2024 19:40:09 GMT
Just watched the interview just don't like a manager saying he doesn't know why we didn't compete,he said it numerous times it doesn't make me feel optimistic regarding this manager in fact it makes him look like a idiot, that's the reason you are the manager you should know why your players didn't play the way you asked them to, I'm not convinced by him at all,if the opponent is a better player than fine but not knowing why his players were so bad then you are just the same
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2024 19:42:19 GMT
Just watched the interview just don't like a manager saying he doesn't know why we didn't compete,he said it numerous times it doesn't make me feel optimistic regarding this manager in fact it makes him look like a idiot, that's the reason you are the manager you should know why your players didn't play the way you asked them to, I'm not convinced by him at all,if the opponent is a better player than fine but not knowing why his players were so bad then you are just the same I agree, he should absolutely know why or make something up. Saying you don’t know is a bit rabbit in the headlights. It’s a concern for sure |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 14, 2024 19:50:14 GMT
He doesn’t seem to instil confidence or breed a winning mentality
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 19:55:13 GMT
Position will be reviewed after the next break if results go against him 2 of the bottom three at home in the next three before the fixtures get a lot tougher on paper
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Post by spoton on Sept 14, 2024 19:55:22 GMT
Just watched the interview just don't like a manager saying he doesn't know why we didn't compete,he said it numerous times it doesn't make me feel optimistic regarding this manager in fact it makes him look like a idiot, that's the reason you are the manager you should know why your players didn't play the way you asked them to, I'm not convinced by him at all,if the opponent is a better player than fine but not knowing why his players were so bad then you are just the same I agree, he should absolutely know why or make something up. Saying you don’t know is a bit rabbit in the headlights. It’s a concern for sure His other quote was "we have got to try to play better than today on Tuesday" Well I certainly don't need to be a highly paid manager to know that, Christ he's got no idea when asked questions and probably about the same idea how to put it right on the pitch |
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Post by questionable on Sept 14, 2024 20:04:07 GMT
Said it time and time again he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing, body language is all over the place, experienced players will see straight through him.
Wonder why younger players are now the “go to” option??
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 20:32:57 GMT
I've calmed down a bit now. Please get this working SS as I don't think I could face a new manager search. SJ`w will have someone in mind |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 14, 2024 20:35:51 GMT
Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. So you're saying the only reason the players were so shit is because of the manager, he told them to be second to ever ball, struggle to pass to team mates and create nothing? 😂 Give over. he takes just as much responsibility as the players , to say other wise shows your stupidity |
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Post by questionable on Sept 14, 2024 21:09:12 GMT
Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. So you're saying the only reason the players were so shit is because of the manager, he told them to be second to ever ball, struggle to pass to team mates and create nothing? 😂 Give over. For their goal we had 5 players who could and should have done something about it, chaotic. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 21:38:37 GMT
Fella haa got charlton going 😃must admit i dont get a warm feelng from SS while accepting many do but it doesnt really matter its results that will tell in the end i liked jones barmy streak but that didnt work either
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 22:03:11 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite. He’s only had 2 weeks to plan it, coach it etc. It sounds like the standard performance under him. No he hasn't. This first international break comes at an awful time for coaches. Some players weren't back in training until Thursday and we travelled to Oxford yesterday. That left Seto and more importantly Cannon with one training session with a good proportion of the squad. I always think that the international breaks are a waste of time for team training when most of your better, more important players aren't there. How is he supposed to spend time on team formation and tactics without half the squad. Later breaks are not so bad as players are beginning to get to know each other |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 14, 2024 22:36:11 GMT
He's just followed on where his predecessors finished, one step forward, one step back, and that's how we're plodding along!!!
Oh for a manager who could just get Stoke firing again, it seems like it's not destined to happen, player after player.... Manager after manager, and yet we're still as bad as when we first came down!!! 😕
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 15, 2024 7:54:23 GMT
I've calmed down a bit now. Please get this working SS as I don't think I could face a new manager search. SJ`w will have someone in mind We just been to give him time now though don't we? It's his squad, a young squad, and we'd go back to square one in every sense if we get rid |
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Post by potter7green on Sept 15, 2024 8:23:39 GMT
He needs to stop this rotation crap. Play the best eleven every time bar injury. I'm sick of managers harping on about tiredness,hard week travelling etc.
Talking to a local Plymouth fan he said he constantly made changes, 3 or 4 players every match, hence the up and down performances. Until he stops this expect the same good and bad performances over the season.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 15, 2024 8:26:33 GMT
Of course it's on him. He coached the players, he chose the team, he decided the tactics. He made the changes that changed nothing. He put Ennis on, who won't improve anything. Of course it's down to him. So you're saying the only reason the players were so shit is because of the manager, he told them to be second to ever ball, struggle to pass to team mates and create nothing? 😂 Give over. Just a thought Could it be that the players who ultimately played shit See the likes of gooch at no 10, Koumas and Phillips and Moran not playing and think this isn’t our best team and are not all together happy with what is put out there. I’m not saying they mean to go out and play shit but any negative thoughts and this could happen. I mean when I saw the team I had my head in my hands maybe they felt the same hence the performance. Like I say it’s just a thought. They are professional so shouldn’t come into it but that’s how good players played yesterday |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 15, 2024 8:36:17 GMT
Most of those who came on the 2nd half,most wanted them to start,yet somehow they made us even worse,if that was possible.
If Shue had started his best 11,& they all had a stinker,how is that the managers fault?
When the Shit had bad days was it Fergies fault or the players?
So you can't blame the manager if the players have a realy bad off day.
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Post by Ron on Sept 15, 2024 8:36:21 GMT
His tinkering is insane…. He’s arrogant and thinks we can manage not playing our best xi every week.
I get the odd change- to freshen up/ tactics… but changing the centre backs/ midfield etc.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 15, 2024 8:42:33 GMT
The time for a verdict is after 12 games, effectively a quarter of the season and around a time when a new transfer window opens.
Let's see where we are then before rushing to another team manager change.
Waddington started slowly at Stoke as did Ferguson at Man U.
We have tried the alternative of quickly changing managers and wholesale team changes and it's failed so let's try patience for a bit longer.
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Post by headsgoup on Sept 15, 2024 8:49:21 GMT
He set the team up to fail yesterday, by switching from 433 in possession to 4231 out of it.
'Outmuscled' is the term used here, but I don't think that's helpful, because it's about coverage of space.
By setting Gooch up as an attack dog off the ball, the moment we gained it or lost it nobody knew where anyone else was.
So, we were second to every loose ball all game, and a squad that already had bugger all time together due to the international break again were made to look even more like strangers.
Why he tinkers tactically like this is beyond me. It's arguable that the squad doesn't have the talent to cope, but even if it did why not concentrate on using our raw attacking talent to cause the opposition problems, rather than worrying about where our weaknesses are?
Another timid field mouse in the dugout - that's what we're looking at. I don't blame the players here, basic coaching errors are being made.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 15, 2024 8:50:09 GMT
Could we play 4-4-2. Or at least try it when Gallagher is back?
I think it could work….
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 15, 2024 9:14:39 GMT
Could we play 4-4-2. Or at least try it when Gallagher is back? I think it could work…. It will be interesting to see how he uses Gallagher as I think he is different from the rest of the team. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 15, 2024 9:15:33 GMT
Could we play 4-4-2. Or at least try it when Gallagher is back? I think it could work…. It will be interesting to see how he uses Gallagher as I think he is different from the rest of the team. Lawal and Gallagher will give us some much needed physicality. We're weak as piss. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 15, 2024 9:50:00 GMT
We will end up with
Keeper
Gooch Wilmot Gibson Phillips Bocat
Burger Pearson
Moran
Cannon Gallagher
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