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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 2, 2024 16:08:36 GMT
It wasn’t the best but on another day at least one of those two that hit the post, or Manhoef’s follow up, go in. Then who knows what the result might have been. And to be fair to the manager, I don’t think many of us were too chuffed to see Ennis replace Tezgel vs Coventry, then Ennis helps with the build up to the goal. The subs vs Plymouth were heavily criticised on here too, we went on to win the game. I know it’s the hope that kills you but this season feels different. I’m still far from convinced that inverted full backs are the way with the quality of player in this division but let’s see. I don't think we play with inverted full backs would be interested to see heat maps for our full backs compared to say Rico Lewis at Man City who very does play as an inverted fullback I do think the fullbacks tuck in closer to their CB when defending which isn't the same as inverted I haven't seen any of the Plymouth game but Tchamadeu definitely played that role against West Brom, but he lacks the intelligence (with want for a nicer way to put it) to play that role so not only did he move into the CM role during the attacking phase, he was sometimes found in the AM role which is too far, and as Manhoef inverting from is RW spot as you’d expect from someone who’s left foot is the far stronger the space in the the RB position was huge which they exploited. Using the system at Man City and Liverpool, with the best players in the world, to play that role and to accommodate it after loss of possession is fine but I’m not sure typical Championship players, especially inexperienced ones, can handle it. I would love to be proved wrong though. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 2, 2024 17:14:40 GMT
I don't think we play with inverted full backs would be interested to see heat maps for our full backs compared to say Rico Lewis at Man City who very does play as an inverted fullback I do think the fullbacks tuck in closer to their CB when defending which isn't the same as inverted I haven't seen any of the Plymouth game but Tchamadeu definitely played that role against West Brom, but he lacks the intelligence (with want for a nicer way to put it) to play that role so not only did he move into the CM role during the attacking phase, he was sometimes found in the AM role which is too far, and as Manhoef inverting from is RW spot as you’d expect from someone who’s left foot is the far stronger the space in the the RB position was huge which they exploited. Using the system at Man City and Liverpool, with the best players in the world, to play that role and to accommodate it after loss of possession is fine but I’m not sure typical Championship players, especially inexperienced ones, can handle it. I would love to be proved wrong though. We played with wing backs v Albion,he played RWB Bocat played left side of the 3 (don't think it suited him) |
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 3, 2024 0:12:25 GMT
It wasn’t the best but on another day at least one of those two that hit the post, or Manhoef’s follow up, go in. Then who knows what the result might have been. And to be fair to the manager, I don’t think many of us were too chuffed to see Ennis replace Tezgel vs Coventry, then Ennis helps with the build up to the goal. The subs vs Plymouth were heavily criticised on here too, we went on to win the game. I know it’s the hope that kills you but this season feels different. I’m still far from convinced that inverted full backs are the way with the quality of player in this division but let’s see. I don't think we play with inverted full backs would be interested to see heat maps for our full backs compared to say Rico Lewis at Man City who very does play as an inverted fullback I do think the fullbacks tuck in closer to their CB when defending which isn't the same as inverted I'd love to see some heat maps. I keep feeling like I spot Junior inside of Manhoef when we're attacking. But I'm probably looking out for that - it'll just happen naturally sometimes of course. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 14, 2024 13:22:57 GMT
An absolutely terrible performance again.
Is it wrong to say we really do look poorly coached?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 14, 2024 13:24:47 GMT
He’s bang average at best.
No tears if they sack him tonight
Insipid all round.
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 14, 2024 13:26:30 GMT
He’s bang average at best. No tears if they sack him tonight Insipid all round. Without sounding dramatic, I really wouldn't be bothered if he stays or goes. It's just another performance to add to the absolutely wank pile from him. |
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Post by somersetpotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:26:48 GMT
Abject performance. What’s the plan? They all look like they’re making it up as they go, random movement, not knowing where or when to pass. Fucking rubbish
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 14, 2024 13:27:30 GMT
Can someone confirm his record vs the shite before him? He's got to be up there, we've lost bloody loads under him.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 14, 2024 13:27:34 GMT
I've never seen a team lose so many 2nd balls as this lot, basic shit but we were chasing shadows all game.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 13:28:44 GMT
Midfield again
We don't have one
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 14, 2024 13:29:12 GMT
Knee jerk reaction ? It wasn’t great but we’re tenth with the same amount of wins as half the league ? Deserves the sack ? Behave
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:29:25 GMT
That’s on the manager for me
Not good enough
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2024 13:30:13 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite.
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Post by figo85 on Sept 14, 2024 13:30:39 GMT
Still early but there is nothing to say we’ve made any progress from the shit show that was last year.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2024 13:31:06 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite. He’s only had 2 weeks to plan it, coach it etc. It sounds like the standard performance under him. |
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Post by caine on Sept 14, 2024 13:31:10 GMT
Haha knew some of these comments would come out. Think be used to this inconsistency by now
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 14, 2024 13:32:04 GMT
Knee jerk reaction ? It wasn’t great but we’re tenth with the same amount of wins as half the league ? Deserves the sack ? Behave We're losing way too often under him though. |
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Post by Block 26 on Sept 14, 2024 13:32:05 GMT
That was worrying…. To set up with Gooch as a 10, he should have received his p45 before ko.
I said before the game that the midfield was weak.
Every time I start to warm a little to SS he turns out another awful display. I mean didn’t he promise entertaining attacking football? What in the world did I just watch?
Laughable
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 14, 2024 13:32:38 GMT
Whoever is the set piece coach needs fucking sacking tonight , they are beyond woeful
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Post by Biblical on Sept 14, 2024 13:33:06 GMT
That’s on the manager for me Not good enough I feel like Gooch in midfield set the tone but when you’ve got 9 or 10 players not even showing up and the subs not doing fuck all either then it’s dreadful. One of the worst performances I’ve seen though and we’ve seen some absolute shockers under messers Jones, MON, Neil and now Schumacher. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2024 13:34:18 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite. He’s only had 2 weeks to plan it, coach it etc. It sounds like the standard performance under him. You can do all the planning in the world but if they turn up and can't even do simple things there's not a lot he can do. Sidibe and burger just didn't turn up, Juno looked a shadow of the player he was last season. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2024 13:35:43 GMT
I don't think we play with inverted full backs would be interested to see heat maps for our full backs compared to say Rico Lewis at Man City who very does play as an inverted fullback I do think the fullbacks tuck in closer to their CB when defending which isn't the same as inverted I'd love to see some heat maps. I keep feeling like I spot Junior inside of Manhoef when we're attacking. But I'm probably looking out for that - it'll just happen naturally sometimes of course. I agree. Unlike Hoever last year who would go inside or outside creating space for Million, Junior rarely goes down the outside which means the area of the pitch Manhoeff likes to cut into becomes congested. I don't understand why Junior doesn't overlap. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:35:54 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite. He picked the team and system,motivate and plan. All on him |
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 14, 2024 13:36:27 GMT
Can someone confirm his record vs the shite before him? He's got to be up there, we've lost bloody loads under him. We’ve lost 12 games under him. Won 13 drawn 6 |
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Post by spoton on Sept 14, 2024 13:36:40 GMT
Shit
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Post by Gods on Sept 14, 2024 13:37:25 GMT
If Schuey has run out of road I wonder what happens next?
I suppose if John Coates still has faith in Jonathan Walters then Walters gets to make the next managerial pick.
It would all be very disruptive though.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 14, 2024 13:37:49 GMT
That’s on the manager for me Not good enough I feel like Gooch in midfield set the tone but when you’ve got 9 or 10 players not even showing up and the subs not doing fuck all either then it’s dreadful. One of the worst performances I’ve seen though and we’ve seen some absolute shockers under messers Jones, MON, Neil and now Schumacher. Absolutely. Wrong line up for sure puts us on the back foot |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2024 13:38:05 GMT
Not a lot he can do when the players put in performances that shite. He picked the team and system,motivate and plan. All on him No one was complaining about the team bar gooch before kickoff and rightly so, the line up was fine. And although it was a meh game the plan was fine in the first half until the players decided to give up in the second. The manager can't plan for so many awful performances. |
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 14, 2024 13:38:39 GMT
Can someone confirm his record vs the shite before him? He's got to be up there, we've lost bloody loads under him. We’ve lost 12 games under him. Won 13 drawn 6 Should probably have followed up with Alex Neil won 22 drew 13 lost 31 |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Sept 14, 2024 13:38:59 GMT
Gooch as no.10?
Thought he was a full back? What was that all about?
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