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Post by andystokey on Mar 12, 2024 19:27:09 GMT
Why were they a waste of time? I thought you said that you only glanced at them, you can't possibly even know what they say. I don't. I just scrolled and was mildly impressed by their length. Clearly I lack the attention span and IQ to interpret their content. You won't be the first.
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Post by gawa on Apr 2, 2024 14:09:08 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 2, 2024 14:31:18 GMT
Great. Have they proven anything in court or are they just pandering to a crowd?
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Post by gawa on Apr 2, 2024 15:14:24 GMT
Great. Have they proven anything in court or are they just pandering to a crowd? I think it is something which we do need to be weary of. Public services decimated. Electoral office no longer independant. An influx of additional postal voters due to law changes. Possible to register and vote as an overseas voter without id. We can barely manage an NHS waiting list or an asylum seeker backlog. The number of people registering for postal votes is going to surge with a huge amount of applications within a short time frame. The people handling such applications will likely be staff hired specifically for the role given there is only demand around election time. I doubt the procedures and processes will be in place on how to handle and do thorough due diligence on the predicted surge in applications. Especially considering an election could be called tomorrow for the 1st June and applications for postal vote have a deadline around 2.5 weeks before. So in a 5 week period thousands of applications to register to vote from oversees voters as well as applications to vote need to be processed. "Only x people have been convicted" isn't a convincing argument given the significant changes to the rules which have been placed. And also because if we look at the total amount of tax avoided compared to that recuperated. If we base the extent of it on the arrests then we'd be saying the problem is much smaller than it actually is. It needs to be scrutinised.
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Post by gawa on Apr 18, 2024 20:31:12 GMT
He's like the british Donald Trump. And you know what I'm all for it 🤣
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Post by desman2 on Apr 19, 2024 1:12:03 GMT
Why does he always wear a hat.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 19, 2024 1:27:22 GMT
He's like the british Donald Trump. And you know what I'm all for it 🤣 Neither were good. A punch doesn’t stop at the bag or the pad, you have to picture the target is 6 inches further back if you want to make proper damage.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 19, 2024 5:41:51 GMT
He's like the british Donald Trump. And you know what I'm all for it 🤣 More like Donald Duck
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 19, 2024 6:06:22 GMT
Why does he always wear a hat. To hide his penis?
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 6:09:34 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 19, 2024 7:46:33 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew I, on the other hand, can't believe people like Farage and slate Galloway. They're both divisive, narcissistic and deeply unpleasant bellends. Galloway, however, can at least get himself elected.
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Post by knype on Apr 19, 2024 8:00:50 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew I, on the other hand, can't believe people like Farage and slate Galloway. They're both divisive, narcissistic and deeply unpleasant bellends. Galloway, however, can at least get himself elected. Both cut from the same cloth so same applies to the Galloway lovers
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 9:10:19 GMT
Why does he always wear a hat. Not sure. He has a big scar after being hospitalised by a Jewish extremist so maybe to do with that. Or maybe it's a George thing like boy George.
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 9:12:26 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew I've been wanting Farage in the commons for a long time. I still want him in. George is an excellent orator and speaks alot of sense on certain issues.
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 9:22:25 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew I, on the other hand, can't believe people like Farage and slate Galloway. They're both divisive, narcissistic and deeply unpleasant bellends. Galloway, however, can at least get himself elected. I'd argue its narcissistic to stand quiet and do nothing while 10s of thousands of children die and 100s of thousands march against it because you're more interested in furthering your political career. Something which applies to a majority of MPs in the government and the opposition. I'd say it's also narcissistic to stand as leader on a manifesto and then upon election cancelling all those promises and admitting you got to do what you do to get elected. A narcissist tends to be most interested in furthering their own aspirations and goals rather than standing up for others. Of which there are many in the front benches in the commons. Not sure how George has benefited from standing up for the few aside from making himself a bigger target for smear campaigns.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 19, 2024 9:42:48 GMT
I, on the other hand, can't believe people like Farage and slate Galloway. They're both divisive, narcissistic and deeply unpleasant bellends. Galloway, however, can at least get himself elected. I'd argue its narcissistic to stand quiet and do nothing while 10s of thousands of children die and 100s of thousands march against it because you're more interested in furthering your political career. Something which applies to a majority of MPs in the government and the opposition. I'd say it's also narcissistic to stand as leader on a manifesto and then upon election cancelling all those promises and admitting you got to do what you do to get elected. A narcissist tends to be most interested in furthering their own aspirations and goals rather than standing up for others. Of which there are many in the front benches in the commons. Not sure how George has benefited from standing up for the few aside from making himself a bigger target for smear campaigns. I'll look for him standing up for victims in Ukraine and the victims of Putins global assassinations then. Stsnding pretty quiet on that one I'd say. Though to do so might compromise his gig grandstanding on Russia Today should it ever get back on air. Lover of free speech - unless you happen to 'free speak' against him - in which case it's straight to litigation. Obnoxious megalomaniac if you ask me (which I know you didn't).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2024 11:00:54 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew Both sets are vile racists.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 19, 2024 12:51:18 GMT
I can't believe that people like this absolute clown but slate Nigel Farage and co, he is worse and more divisive than all of Farage and his crew Both sets are vile racists. I'm no fan of Galloway, but it's well documented that he went undercover in South Africa in the 80's to help bring down apartheid from within. Not many "vile racists" would go to those lengths I would suggest? There are many many reasons to criticise George Galloway but I don't think him being racist is one personally.......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2024 13:13:02 GMT
Both sets are vile racists. I'm no fan of Galloway, but it's well documented that he went undercover in South Africa in the 80's to help bring down apartheid from within. Not many "vile racists" would go to those lengths I would suggest? There are many many reasons to criticise George Galloway but I don't think him being racist is one personally....... Yeah he’s not anti semetic in any way shape or form. An absolute twat of a bloke.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 19, 2024 13:48:04 GMT
I'm no fan of Galloway, but it's well documented that he went undercover in South Africa in the 80's to help bring down apartheid from within. Not many "vile racists" would go to those lengths I would suggest? There are many many reasons to criticise George Galloway but I don't think him being racist is one personally....... Yeah he’s not anti semetic in any way shape or form. An absolute twat of a bloke. He's said stupid things in the past, like when he was sacked for saying "No Israel flags on the cup" when Spurs lost the Champions League, a reference to Spurs (possibly Jewish) fans waving Israeli flags (unnecessarily provocative in my opinion). But being "an absolute twat of a bloke" doesn't necessarilymake him a racist......
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 13:59:53 GMT
I'd argue its narcissistic to stand quiet and do nothing while 10s of thousands of children die and 100s of thousands march against it because you're more interested in furthering your political career. Something which applies to a majority of MPs in the government and the opposition. I'd say it's also narcissistic to stand as leader on a manifesto and then upon election cancelling all those promises and admitting you got to do what you do to get elected. A narcissist tends to be most interested in furthering their own aspirations and goals rather than standing up for others. Of which there are many in the front benches in the commons. Not sure how George has benefited from standing up for the few aside from making himself a bigger target for smear campaigns. I'll look for him standing up for victims in Ukraine and the victims of Putins global assassinations then. Stsnding pretty quiet on that one I'd say. Though to do so might compromise his gig grandstanding on Russia Today should it ever get back on air. Lover of free speech - unless you happen to 'free speak' against him - in which case it's straight to litigation. Obnoxious megalomaniac if you ask me (which I know you didn't). So do you believe all MPs who haven't stood up for those in Gaza are narcissists? There is no litigation unless there is defemination or libel. So if it's straight to litigation then that's what's occurring or being alleged. So is it ok to smear people that the establishment doesn't like and they should just accept the smears rather than take legal action? Or what's the problem with going to litigation to defend yourself from smears? Also I don't particularly see the problem with being on Russia Today. Many other MP's have appeared on it and you don't exactly build bridges by polarising a country. I presume you believe those who regularly go to Israel and appear on Israel state tv are also narcissists? Or if not, what's the difference? The same goes for those who have spent the last 4 years visiting and cheerleading for Rwanda who have had a dictator in place for even longer than Russia. But we are told they're a safe country because that dictator is our guy from the west. I can't help but think that if you and I were Russian citizens having this conversation about Alexei Navalny that you'd likely use the same language on him, and I'd likely be using the same argument in response. I'd say you're more likely to have narcissistic tendencies if you don't speak out about injustice and tow the establishment line which gives you a very cushty life in politics and generally protects you from any smear campaigns. Whether that's being Margaret Thatcher covering up child abuse or whether it be Margaret Hodge covering up child abuse. Be as hateful as you like because if you're doing what you're told to further your career and reputation then you'll be protected in return, which they have. I don't agree with George on many things but I do find it startling that one of the loudest opposing voices to the Iraq war, where many people needlessly died, is the narcissist but those whose political careers benefited from warmongering aren't the narcissists. Maybe my views on these things are different having grown up in an environment where tribalism is prominent and we're indoctrinated to judge a whole group of people by the actions of a few. And then realising with age that alot of the stuff both sides were told was propoganda pushed by the few about the many. Maybe experiencing that has made me more open to questioning the narrative as I've witnessed and lived through the lies and seen the damage pushing that division causes. I don't think Putin is a saint but I'm not going to judge the whole Russian population solely by him. I also know enough about my own countries history, both recent and historical, to understand that on many occassions we weren't on the right side of history. We certainly aren't on the right side with the gaza genocide currently going on. So I'm not going to be confident that the west which has been pushing Israel propaganda about the Gaza genocide is suddenly being completely honest with what's going on in Russia. I want a ceasefire and peace, the thousands of men being forced into conscription against their will in Ukraine also want the same. Maybe if you were one of the Ukranian men cut apart from your family and being forced to be the next cannonfodder to go on the Ukranian front line you'd feel the same. I personally just don't really buy into what the western leaders say anymore as I find it difficult to comprehend how they defend military action from one country which has murdered nearly 40,000 civillians in 6 months while scrutinising another country in conflict which has murdered 10,000 civilians in 24 months. You can't have your cake and eat it. Hopefully peace will be on the horizon soon but it seems like the warmongers already have their next conflict lined up.
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 14:14:09 GMT
Yeah he’s not anti semetic in any way shape or form. An absolute twat of a bloke. He's said stupid things in the past, like when he was sacked for saying "No Israel flags on the cup" when Spurs lost the Champions League, a reference to Spurs (possibly Jewish) fans waving Israeli flags (unnecessarily provocative in my opinion). But being "an absolute twat of a bloke" doesn't necessarilymake him a racist...... I just don't see him as this big bad wolf who is a super extremist politician like some make out. If I believed everything I was told then I'd be thinking Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott are terrorists and Boris Johnson is a saint sent from god. Suella Braverman has said much more extreme stuff than George in recent history and she has swathes of the right wing media supporting her. If she stood for the tory leadership today she'd probably stand a good chance of getting it. She certainly wouldn't have the prime minister arranging press conferences at Friday night dinner to warn us all about an extremist being elected. So I won't be taking lessons from the sun, daily mail, bbc, guardian or other on who is and who isn't an extremist. Because time and time again I've seen those media establishments defend the indefensible and smear and attack those who try to represent the many rather than the few. I don't agree with George on every thing but I think he's a good personality and character. I respect that he will speak his mind and won't hold back. I respect that he'll take on those who other politicians bow down too, and I respect that he'll give a voice to those whos voices are censored. And I bet he has received as many donations from Russians as other politicians and parties in the uk have too. He presented on Russia Today which anyone can see. He wasn't having secret meetings with the Russians in the mountains of Italy or promoting them to the house of lords though.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 19, 2024 14:14:36 GMT
I'll look for him standing up for victims in Ukraine and the victims of Putins global assassinations then. Stsnding pretty quiet on that one I'd say. Though to do so might compromise his gig grandstanding on Russia Today should it ever get back on air. Lover of free speech - unless you happen to 'free speak' against him - in which case it's straight to litigation. Obnoxious megalomaniac if you ask me (which I know you didn't). So do you believe all MPs who haven't stood up for those in Gaza are narcissists? There is no litigation unless there is defemination or libel. So if it's straight to litigation then that's what's occurring or being alleged. So is it ok to smear people that the establishment doesn't like and they should just accept the smears rather than take legal action? Or what's the problem with going to litigation to defend yourself from smears? Also I don't particularly see the problem with being on Russia Today. Many other MP's have appeared on it and you don't exactly build bridges by polarising a country. I presume you believe those who regularly go to Israel and appear on Israel state tv are also narcissists? Or if not, what's the difference? The same goes for those who have spent the last 4 years visiting and cheerleading for Rwanda who have had a dictator in place for even longer than Russia. But we are told they're a safe country because that dictator is our guy from the west. I can't help but think that if you and I were Russian citizens having this conversation about Alexei Navalny that you'd likely use the same language on him, and I'd likely be using the same argument in response. I'd say you're more likely to have narcissistic tendencies if you don't speak out about injustice and tow the establishment line which gives you a very cushty life in politics and generally protects you from any smear campaigns. Whether that's being Margaret Thatcher covering up child abuse or whether it be Margaret Hodge covering up child abuse. Be as hateful as you like because if you're doing what you're told to further your career and reputation then you'll be protected in return, which they have. I don't agree with George on many things but I do find it startling that one of the loudest opposing voices to the Iraq war, where many people needlessly died, is the narcissist but those whose political careers benefited from warmongering aren't the narcissists. Maybe my views on these things are different having grown up in an environment where tribalism is prominent and we're indoctrinated to judge a whole group of people by the actions of a few. And then realising with age that alot of the stuff both sides were told was propoganda pushed by the few about the many. Maybe experiencing that has made me more open to questioning the narrative as I've witnessed and lived through the lies and seen the damage pushing that division causes. I don't think Putin is a saint but I'm not going to judge the whole Russian population solely by him. I also know enough about my own countries history, both recent and historical, to understand that on many occassions we weren't on the right side of history. We certainly aren't on the right side with the gaza genocide currently going on. So I'm not going to be confident that the west which has been pushing Israel propaganda about the Gaza genocide is suddenly being completely honest with what's going on in Russia. I want a ceasefire and peace, the thousands of men being forced into conscription against their will in Ukraine also want the same. Maybe if you were one of the Ukranian men cut apart from your family and being forced to be the next cannonfodder to go on the Ukranian front line you'd feel the same. I personally just don't really buy into what the western leaders say anymore as I find it difficult to comprehend how they defend military action from one country which has murdered nearly 40,000 civillians in 6 months while scrutinising another country in conflict which has murdered 10,000 civilians in 24 months. You can't have your cake and eat it. Hopefully peace will be on the horizon soon but it seems like the warmongers already have their next conflict lined up. The mantra of a narcissist is 'Love me or hate me, just don't ignore me'. I think Galloway fits in with that - but can't be arsed to write an essay on it.
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Post by gawa on Apr 23, 2024 21:34:58 GMT
I'm a George galloway shill. Deal with it.
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