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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 9:41:26 GMT
Certainly not Israeli law! I am a family lawyer and I particularly specialise in international/cross jurisdictional divorces or children disputes, and then disputes between unmarried couples over property or children. I also do lots of nuptial agreements. Before you say anything, my posting on the Oatcake is nothing to do with and nothing like the way I work as a professional. Obviously. Paid to argue for a living. It's no surprise. Absolutely. My wife is a lawyer too. No wonder my 8 year old argues back so much.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 9:46:30 GMT
He wasn't right though. You were. About what?
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 9:52:06 GMT
My position is that having a national language does not mean there is an apartheid in that country. The UK is a good example. The other bits generally show there is an apartheid in Israel/Palestine. I suggest if you ever need to persuade someone of the apartheid in Israel you don’t mention the national language point. Oh and i am still waiting for you to quote all of my bombastic defences of the Israeli government! You will also need to quote where I have apparently defended the indefensible. Finally, you (and Paul) must be embarrassed for being completely out argued by someone as ignorant as you and Paul keep telling me I The Israeli internationally Honoured Human Rights Organisation B'Tselem would completely disagree with your assertion on Hewbrew Language, as I have said at least a couple of times it is the intent. I would respectfully suggest B'Tselem would have a better understanding of Israeli Law than you or I If you want to be informed you can read their explanation why it is a part of controlling Palestinians in all areas under Israeli Control The name B'Tselem was chosen by one of its founders in 1989 by Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid, is an allusion to Genesis 1:27: “And God created humankind in His image. In the image of God did He create them.” The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people. www.btselem.org/about_btselemI am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 9, 2024 10:34:47 GMT
Paid to argue for a living. It's no surprise. Absolutely. My wife is a lawyer too. No wonder my 8 year old argues back so much. I bet they're right too 🙄
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 9, 2024 10:35:04 GMT
He wasn't right though. You were. About what? Everything!
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 9, 2024 10:37:05 GMT
The Israeli internationally Honoured Human Rights Organisation B'Tselem would completely disagree with your assertion on Hewbrew Language, as I have said at least a couple of times it is the intent. I would respectfully suggest B'Tselem would have a better understanding of Israeli Law than you or I If you want to be informed you can read their explanation why it is a part of controlling Palestinians in all areas under Israeli Control The name B'Tselem was chosen by one of its founders in 1989 by Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid, is an allusion to Genesis 1:27: “And God created humankind in His image. In the image of God did He create them.” The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people. www.btselem.org/about_btselemI am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid. People choosing not to learn the language of the country they move to create an apartheid for themselves. Unless that country is soft enough to provide written and verbal translation in 38 different languages and dialect, FOC.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 10:41:32 GMT
I didn’t know a Badger’s arsehole was big enough to fit a human nose that far up it!
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 10:43:08 GMT
I am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid. People choosing not to learn the language of the country they move to create an apartheid for themselves. Unless that country is soft enough to provide written and verbal translation in 38 different languages and dialect, FOC. My wife negotiates trade deals and a regular sticking point is the UK requiring other nations to have to publish tenders in English. I can tell her she can accuse them of apartheid if the foreign nation refuse!
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 9, 2024 10:44:08 GMT
I didn’t know a Badger’s arsehole was big enough to fit a human nose that far up it! Only in relation to The Last Leg thread. On everything else you're rightest. Or Paul Spencer is. Or maybe Wannabee. Depends which of you is on the blob over something that week.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 10:47:03 GMT
I didn’t know a Badger’s arsehole was big enough to fit a human nose that far up it! Only in relation to The Last Leg thread. On everything else you're rightest. Or Paul Spencer is. Or maybe Wannabee. Depends which of you is on the blob over something that week. Apparently it is sometimes called “la semaine ketchup” in France.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 9, 2024 10:53:29 GMT
The Israeli internationally Honoured Human Rights Organisation B'Tselem would completely disagree with your assertion on Hewbrew Language, as I have said at least a couple of times it is the intent. I would respectfully suggest B'Tselem would have a better understanding of Israeli Law than you or I If you want to be informed you can read their explanation why it is a part of controlling Palestinians in all areas under Israeli Control The name B'Tselem was chosen by one of its founders in 1989 by Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid, is an allusion to Genesis 1:27: “And God created humankind in His image. In the image of God did He create them.” The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people. www.btselem.org/about_btselemI am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid. If its alright by you I'm prepared to take the lived experience of the 3 Founders of the Jerusalem based Non-Profit Organisation B'Tselem over your opinion Zehava Galon Member of Israeli Knesset and President of the research institute ZULAT for Equality and Human Rights and former leader of Meretz Israeli Political Party Avigdor Feldman Civil and Human Rights lawyer and the son of two Holocaust Survivors. Founder of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) as well as a founding member of B'Tselem In 1991 Feldman received the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award. An annual award given to an individual whose courageous activism is at the heart of the human rights movement and in the spirit of Robert F. Kennedy's vision and legacy. David "Dedi" Zucker an Israeli peace activist and former politician who served for 13 years as a member of the Knesset for Ratz and Meretz (Israeli Political Party's)
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 9, 2024 11:16:44 GMT
I am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid. People choosing not to learn the language of the country they move to create an apartheid for themselves. Unless that country is soft enough to provide written and verbal translation in 38 different languages and dialect, FOC. Spot on. If you moved to a country not knowing it’s first language it’s the first thing you should want to do if you truely want to integrate,settle (I know many, many who do) and build friendships. As much as anything it’ll make life easier when needing to find out vital information, book appointments etc. I have no problem with us being multi cultural whatsoever but there has to be some give for those moving to the UK in relation to them embracing there new home (the vast majority do). in the same way we should if we move overseas. I don’t get why someone would want to desperately leave a country they hate then turn there new home into the same one they left in particular in relation to lack of tolerance over religion, the law etc. We should be able to live and let live without all this hatred just because someone follows a different religion or political idealism. It is of course a problem when those with radical views on both sides get involved and for me that’s the big sticking point in relation to the very small percentage who go beyond healthy debate and turn there hatred into violence.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 9, 2024 11:59:07 GMT
People choosing not to learn the language of the country they move to create an apartheid for themselves. Unless that country is soft enough to provide written and verbal translation in 38 different languages and dialect, FOC. Spot on. If you moved to a country not knowing it’s first language it’s the first thing you should want to do if you truely want to integrate,settle (I know many, many who do) and build friendships. As much as anything it’ll make life easier when needing to find out vital information, book appointments etc. I have no problem with us being multi cultural whatsoever but there has to be some give for those moving to the UK in relation to them embracing there new home (the vast majority do). in the same way we should if we move overseas. I don’t get why someone would want to desperately leave a country they hate then turn there new home into the same one they left in particular in relation to lack of tolerance over religion, the law etc. We should be able to live and let live without all this hatred just because someone follows a different religion or political idealism. It is of course a problem when those with radical views on both sides get involved and for me that’s the big sticking point in relation to the very small percentage who go beyond healthy debate and turn there hatred into violence. I agree with everything you and Ian say but it has nothing to do with the context of what was being discussed Palestinians were not being encouraged to learn Hewbrew to assimilate into Israel, quite the reverse On a Parallel Thread, Anglophobia, it was Henry Viii Act of Union which forbade the Welsh Language is still today a cause of resentment particularly in North Wales
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 9, 2024 12:35:22 GMT
Spot on. If you moved to a country not knowing it’s first language it’s the first thing you should want to do if you truely want to integrate,settle (I know many, many who do) and build friendships. As much as anything it’ll make life easier when needing to find out vital information, book appointments etc. I have no problem with us being multi cultural whatsoever but there has to be some give for those moving to the UK in relation to them embracing there new home (the vast majority do). in the same way we should if we move overseas. I don’t get why someone would want to desperately leave a country they hate then turn there new home into the same one they left in particular in relation to lack of tolerance over religion, the law etc. We should be able to live and let live without all this hatred just because someone follows a different religion or political idealism. It is of course a problem when those with radical views on both sides get involved and for me that’s the big sticking point in relation to the very small percentage who go beyond healthy debate and turn there hatred into violence. I agree with everything you and Ian say but it has nothing to do with the context of what was being discussed Palestinians were not being encouraged to learn Hewbrew to assimilate into Israel, quite the reverse On a Parallel Thread, Anglophobia, it was Henry Viii Act of Union which forbade the Welsh Language is still today a cause of resentment particularly in North Wales To be honest i wasn’t really commenting on the OP to be fair as I’ve got my thoughts but don’t really get to ingrained in the politics of it all because my knowledge of the situation isn’t good enough to pass judgement. It was more a response to the post rather than the thread.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 13:46:33 GMT
I am sorry but anyone who says passing a law that puts one language above another in their country (creating a national language for public discourse) creates an apartheid is an idiot. Take away all other laws and discriminatory actions by Israel against Palestinians and Arabs but keep the law about the national language of Hebrew having supremacy over other languages and there is no apartheid. If its alright by you I'm prepared to take the lived experience of the 3 Founders of the Jerusalem based Non-Profit Organisation B'Tselem over your opinion Zehava Galon Member of Israeli Knesset and President of the research institute ZULAT for Equality and Human Rights and former leader of Meretz Israeli Political Party Avigdor Feldman Civil and Human Rights lawyer and the son of two Holocaust Survivors. Founder of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) as well as a founding member of B'Tselem In 1991 Feldman received the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award. An annual award given to an individual whose courageous activism is at the heart of the human rights movement and in the spirit of Robert F. Kennedy's vision and legacy. David "Dedi" Zucker an Israeli peace activist and former politician who served for 13 years as a member of the Knesset for Ratz and Meretz (Israeli Political Party's) I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries?
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Post by wannabee on Mar 9, 2024 14:56:29 GMT
If its alright by you I'm prepared to take the lived experience of the 3 Founders of the Jerusalem based Non-Profit Organisation B'Tselem over your opinion Zehava Galon Member of Israeli Knesset and President of the research institute ZULAT for Equality and Human Rights and former leader of Meretz Israeli Political Party Avigdor Feldman Civil and Human Rights lawyer and the son of two Holocaust Survivors. Founder of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) as well as a founding member of B'Tselem In 1991 Feldman received the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award. An annual award given to an individual whose courageous activism is at the heart of the human rights movement and in the spirit of Robert F. Kennedy's vision and legacy. David "Dedi" Zucker an Israeli peace activist and former politician who served for 13 years as a member of the Knesset for Ratz and Meretz (Israeli Political Party's) I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries? I'm prepared to listen to Eminent Jewish Israelis who have dedicated their lives to equality that it needs to be taken in conjunction with all 65 Discriminatory Laws You are attempting to invalidate one Law and so by definition the other 64 Russia is currently enforcing its language in Eastern Ukraine as it has done in Crimea since 2014 There can be different reasons for Language enforcement Countless Countries that were Colonised used it as a means to determine social mobility I.e. the native language was inferior and by extention those that spoke it All of the Slavic Countries reverted to their Native Language from German There are a multiple of examples why it was used to create social differentiation
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2024 15:13:15 GMT
If its alright by you I'm prepared to take the lived experience of the 3 Founders of the Jerusalem based Non-Profit Organisation B'Tselem over your opinion Zehava Galon Member of Israeli Knesset and President of the research institute ZULAT for Equality and Human Rights and former leader of Meretz Israeli Political Party Avigdor Feldman Civil and Human Rights lawyer and the son of two Holocaust Survivors. Founder of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) as well as a founding member of B'Tselem In 1991 Feldman received the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award. An annual award given to an individual whose courageous activism is at the heart of the human rights movement and in the spirit of Robert F. Kennedy's vision and legacy. David "Dedi" Zucker an Israeli peace activist and former politician who served for 13 years as a member of the Knesset for Ratz and Meretz (Israeli Political Party's) I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries? Wow, what a truly bizarre logic! 🤦♂️
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 16:16:56 GMT
I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries? I'm prepared to listen to Eminent Jewish Israelis who have dedicated their lives to equality that it needs to be taken in conjunction with all 65 Discriminatory Laws You are attempting to invalidate one Law and so by definition the other 64 Russia is currently enforcing its language in Eastern Ukraine as it has done in Crimea since 2014 There can be different reasons for Language enforcement Countless Countries that were Colonised used it as a means to determine social mobility I.e. the native language was inferior and by extention those that spoke it All of the Slavic Countries reverted to their Native Language from German There are a multiple of examples why it was used to create social differentiation I mean, Israel wanting Hebrew to be their national language can hardly come as a surprise to anyone! The Torah is written in an ancient Hebrew after all, and Israel was created for Jews. It follows and by itself is not a problem. Of course Russia wants people in Crimea to speak Russian. Because under Russian law, Russia is the national language and to their mind Crimea is part of Russia. My bigger issue with Russia is the fact it annexed Crimea and is invading Ukraine. Do you know the official language of the Falklands? It is English. No apartheid there though. Can you share where exactly these people have said the apartheid is caused by the Hebrew language? Or do you just like name dropping people you have Googled? Also, when are you going to be supplying the list of evidence to show of my “bombastic defence” of the Israeli government!?
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 16:17:55 GMT
I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries? Wow, what a truly bizarre logic! 🤦♂️ Why? If having a National language considered supreme to others is evidence of apartheid in Israel as Wannabee and you say, why isn’t it elsewhere?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2024 16:20:48 GMT
Wow, what a truly bizarre logic! 🤦♂️ Why? If having a National language considered supreme to others is evidence of apartheid in Israel as Wannabee and you say, why isn’t it elsewhere? I'm watching the match at the moment mate, I'll explain why, after it's finished.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2024 17:32:51 GMT
If its alright by you I'm prepared to take the lived experience of the 3 Founders of the Jerusalem based Non-Profit Organisation B'Tselem over your opinion Zehava Galon Member of Israeli Knesset and President of the research institute ZULAT for Equality and Human Rights and former leader of Meretz Israeli Political Party Avigdor Feldman Civil and Human Rights lawyer and the son of two Holocaust Survivors. Founder of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) as well as a founding member of B'Tselem In 1991 Feldman received the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award. An annual award given to an individual whose courageous activism is at the heart of the human rights movement and in the spirit of Robert F. Kennedy's vision and legacy. David "Dedi" Zucker an Israeli peace activist and former politician who served for 13 years as a member of the Knesset for Ratz and Meretz (Israeli Political Party's) I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries?
This a truly bizarre logic Oggy because apartheid isn't about one singular element, it is made up of many elements. Claiming that if apartheid remains intact after one of those elements has been removed, somehow then proves that the said element wasnt contributing to apartheid, is the logic of a child. It's like suggesting, that if apartheid still exists after passing a law allowing Palestinians the right to drive on the same roads as Israelis, then this too, would prove that that law wasn't a part of apartheid either. A complete nonsense.
With the greatest of respect Oggy, I think due to your extremely limited knowledge of the subject in hand, you have repeatedly embarrassed yourself throughout this thread, as you have believed, that by using your own logic, in combination with a fair deal of obfuscation, would mean that you could somehow bluff your way through it and that a proper understanding of the substance of the discussion would not be necessary.
And now you're doing it again.
The Soweto Uprising in South Africa was one of the most important moments in the struggle against South African apartheid. Please go and read up on the principal causes of the uprising and you will quickly realise, that this present exchange that you are currently having with wannabee, is making you look like a bit of a numpty.
I do apologise if you find my tone condescending and/or patronising (it probably is) but I genuinely don't mean to be insulting.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 9, 2024 17:48:00 GMT
I guarantee that if Israel passed a law today saying Hebrew is no longer the national language then the apartheid in Israel would remain. Do you think there is an apartheid here because we have a national language and have for many centuries? This a truly bizarre logic Oggy because apartheid isn't about one singular element, it is made up of many elements. Claiming that if apartheid remains intact after one of those elements has been removed, is the logic of a child. It's like suggesting, that if apartheid still exists after passing a law allowing Palestinians the right to drive on the same roads as Israelis, then this too, would prove that that law wasn't a part of apartheid either. A complete nonsense. With the greatest of respect Oggy, I think due to your extremely limited knowledge of the subject in hand, you have repeatedly embarrassed yourself throughout this thread, as you have believed, that by using your own logic, in combination with a fair deal of obfuscation, would mean that you could somehow bluff your way through it and that a proper understanding of the substance of the discussion would not be necessary.
And now you're doing it again. The Soweto Uprising in South Africa was one of the most important moments in the struggle against South African apartheid. Please go and read up on the principal causes of the uprising and you will quickly realise, that this present exchange that you are currently having with wannabee, is making you look like a bit of a numpty. I do apologise if you find my tone condescending and/or patronising (it probably is) but I genuinely don't mean to be insulting.
So you do understand that I am not questioning the fact that there is an apartheid in Israel? Because you and wannabee seem to be thinking that I don’t agree that is going on. In my opinion, and of course you and wannabee think otherwise, that just because Hebrew is the national language in Israel, that is not evidence of an apartheid. I would say the treatment of Arabs in the country is evidence of apartheid. National languages are normal. They are common. They are not evidence of apartheid. I cannot understand how that opinion is controversial in any way, shape or form. If Israel treated Palestinians fairly and always had done, Hebrew would still be their national language. It wouldn’t be an issue. Your patronising post completely misses the point. We are only arguing about whether or not having a national language is evidence for of apartheid. You and wannabee think it does. I don’t.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 9, 2024 19:07:59 GMT
I'm prepared to listen to Eminent Jewish Israelis who have dedicated their lives to equality that it needs to be taken in conjunction with all 65 Discriminatory Laws You are attempting to invalidate one Law and so by definition the other 64 Russia is currently enforcing its language in Eastern Ukraine as it has done in Crimea since 2014 There can be different reasons for Language enforcement Countless Countries that were Colonised used it as a means to determine social mobility I.e. the native language was inferior and by extention those that spoke it All of the Slavic Countries reverted to their Native Language from German There are a multiple of examples why it was used to create social differentiation I mean, Israel wanting Hebrew to be their national language can hardly come as a surprise to anyone! The Torah is written in an ancient Hebrew after all, and Israel was created for Jews. It follows and by itself is not a problem. Of course Russia wants people in Crimea to speak Russian. Because under Russian law, Russia is the national language and to their mind Crimea is part of Russia. My bigger issue with Russia is the fact it annexed Crimea and is invading Ukraine. Do you know the official language of the Falklands? It is English. No apartheid there though. Can you share where exactly these people have said the apartheid is caused by the Hebrew language? Or do you just like name dropping people you have Googled? Also, when are you going to be supplying the list of evidence to show of my “bombastic defence” of the Israeli government!? You've got it wrong again. According to the Jewish Faith the Torah was God teachings given to Moses who passed it down ORALLY It was much later written down some parts in Hebrew others in Aramaic The two books of the Talmud which interpret the Torah, the Gemara written almost entirely in Aramaic and the Mishna partly in Aramaic Why is this relevant? because Aramaic was the Language of the Common People while Hebrew was used by Religious and Government Officials An early form of Jewish Social Discrimination by use of Language you could conclude Well done for adopting the Trope others have used before when unable to present a coherent argument by concluding you are debating against Google or a Bot, rather than me providing a source for my argument I offered B'Tselem as a credible source to support why the Basic Laws which include Language and also the other 62 Discriminatory Laws must be taken as a total package. B'Tselem explain why in the link I provided You dismissed B'Tselem as not credible without offering anything other than your opinion which is the epitome of bombastic To counter your dismissal of B'Tselem I outlined their impeccable credentials to which you replied with insults which is further bombastic behaviour
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 9, 2024 19:51:32 GMT
This thread has gone way above my head
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 9, 2024 19:56:32 GMT
This thread has gone way above my head It's about whether if a country speaks a common language does that country practice apartheid or not Or It's about " what are we arguing about, because I can't exactly remember?" Or It's about " I need to get the last word to prove I'm right" Or none of the above Or all of the above.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 9, 2024 20:02:00 GMT
This thread has gone way above my head It's about whether if a country speaks a common language does that country practice apartheid or not Or It's about " what are we arguing about, because I can't exactly remember?" Or It's about " I need to get the last word to prove I'm right" Or none of the above Or all of the above. Phew so I’m not the only one.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 9, 2024 20:10:13 GMT
It's about whether if a country speaks a common language does that country practice apartheid or not Or It's about " what are we arguing about, because I can't exactly remember?" Or It's about " I need to get the last word to prove I'm right" Or none of the above Or all of the above. Phew so I’m not the only one. Definitely not mate!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 9, 2024 20:20:02 GMT
Phew so I’m not the only one. Definitely not mate! Feels like it should be on a university debating forum not the Oatie
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Post by wannabee on Mar 9, 2024 23:52:22 GMT
This thread has gone way above my head It's about whether if a country speaks a common language does that country practice apartheid or not Or It's about " what are we arguing about, because I can't exactly remember?" Or It's about " I need to get the last word to prove I'm right" Or none of the above Or all of the above. None of the above would be the correct answer BJR The whole is *besides than the sum of its parts - Aristotle * Often the word bedsides has been incorrectly replaced by the word greater This is similar to Kurt Koffka's phrase "the whole is *other than the sum of the parts" *Also often misquoted as greater The reality is that the sum of parts is not greater but take a different form when combined In simple terms the individual components of a Car have a function but when combined they form a different function So too are the 65 individual Discriminatory Laws passed by Israeli Legisture You could challenge each on an individual basis in this case the Supremacy of the Hebrew Language But when taken together it becomes apparent the insidious nature of all 65 Laws
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 10, 2024 0:01:02 GMT
It's about whether if a country speaks a common language does that country practice apartheid or not Or It's about " what are we arguing about, because I can't exactly remember?" Or It's about " I need to get the last word to prove I'm right" Or none of the above Or all of the above. None of the above would be the correct answer BJR The whole is *besides than the sum of its parts - Aristotle * Often the word bedsides has been incorrectly replaced by the word greater This is similar to Kurt Koffka's phrase "the whole is *other than the sum of the parts" *Also often misquoted as greater The reality is that the sum of parts is not greater but take a different form when combined In simple terms the individual components of a Car have a function but when combined they form a different function So too are the 65 individual Discriminatory Laws passed by Israeli Legisture You could challenge each on an individual basis in this case the Supremacy of the Hebrew Language But when taken together it becomes apparent the insidious nature of all 65 Laws Thank you very much. I was just trying to help Cobham out. He's not very bright and easily confused. But now you've clarified things, crack on. May the best man win.
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