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Post by a on Sept 7, 2024 8:34:13 GMT
Would they be of any more risk of that than they are already? Dunno 🤷🏻♂️ maybe? Most youth players don’t make it, to almost solely rely on them might be too much, or not |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 8, 2024 18:16:57 GMT
They seem to be mixing and matching the squad. Both Sidibe and Dixon came on at HT against France today.
Watched a bit of it, and they both played well. Dixon looked surprisingly comfortable at full-back, and was a bit of threat going forward. Maybe he'll prove to be Tchamdeu's deputy?
Sidibe scored in the shootout, as he has in all three games I think.
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2024 18:30:25 GMT
They seem to be mixing and matching the squad. Both Sidibe and Dixon came on at HT against France today. Watched a bit of it, and they both played well. Dixon looked surprisingly comfortable at full-back, and was a bit of threat going forward. Maybe he'll prove to be Tchamdeu's deputy? Sidibe scored in the shootout, as he has in all three games I think. Suspect Dixon will play RB v Fleetwood with Anderson at CB alongside whichever of the other CB's don't play (or at least start) at Oxford Alternately he could go wing backs with Dixon right of a 3 but more interested to see him at RB again As for Sol he's bound to start that game |
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Post by apb1 on Sept 8, 2024 18:37:24 GMT
So both have come through unscathed? Phew
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 8, 2024 18:56:13 GMT
He got the assist for the goal
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 8, 2024 21:48:50 GMT
He got the assist for the goal He’s had rave reviews re his performance today. He should be starting on Saturday but he won’t . |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 8, 2024 21:59:39 GMT
He got the assist for the goal He’s had rave reviews re his performance today. He should be starting on Saturday but he won’t . He’s class. I trust Schumacher to make the right call in terms of when he’s ready or not. He seems to get most things right when it comes to the younger players. |
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Post by a on Sept 8, 2024 22:04:19 GMT
Does SS rest players who’ve played this week? Aside from keeper the rest might need recovery time, I know it’s a contentious subject as they’re highly paid athletes but money doesn’t mean rest. Squad depth is as important as ever.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 8, 2024 22:15:53 GMT
No need for resting. Burger Sidibe Moran v Oxford please
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Post by Northy on Sept 9, 2024 7:30:18 GMT
Does SS rest players who’ve played this week? Aside from keeper the rest might need recovery time, I know it’s a contentious subject as they’re highly paid athletes but money doesn’t mean rest. Squad depth is as important as ever. With having a 9 man bench and 5 subs, and a cup game next week against Fleetwood to rotate the squad we've hopefully got enough talent to cover that now. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2024 7:31:44 GMT
Has to start against Oxford with Burger and Moran.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Sept 9, 2024 7:49:33 GMT
I'd agree we have to start him, but that being said I hope we manage him correctly.
In years gone by you've seen what a overload of minutes can do to footballers later down the line, he will still be growing ect.
Although he's good enough to start everyweek it's not sensible to put that many minutes into a player that young
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Post by a on Sept 9, 2024 7:55:39 GMT
Does SS rest players who’ve played this week? Aside from keeper the rest might need recovery time, I know it’s a contentious subject as they’re highly paid athletes but money doesn’t mean rest. Squad depth is as important as ever. With having a 9 man bench and 5 subs, and a cup game next week against Fleetwood to rotate the squad we've hopefully got enough talent to cover that now. I think so, certainly when or rather everyone is back fit, which seems rarer these days |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 9, 2024 8:31:14 GMT
I'd agree we have to start him, but that being said I hope we manage him correctly. In years gone by you've seen what a overload of minutes can do to footballers later down the line, he will still be growing ect. Although he's good enough to start everyweek it's not sensible to put that many minutes into a player that young You've got to manage young players really carefully. Compare Foden with Rooney. One has been gradually brought through - despite having the talent to play - while the other was flogged to death and was a busted flush in his late 20s. Some clowns still think it was the wrong approach and that they'd have done a better job than Guardiola. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Sept 9, 2024 8:43:18 GMT
I'd agree we have to start him, but that being said I hope we manage him correctly. In years gone by you've seen what a overload of minutes can do to footballers later down the line, he will still be growing ect. Although he's good enough to start everyweek it's not sensible to put that many minutes into a player that young You've got to manage young players really carefully. Compare Foden with Rooney. One has been gradually brought through - despite having the talent to play - while the other was flogged to death and was a busted flush in his late 20s. Some clowns still think it was the wrong approach and that they'd have done a better job than Guardiola. Agree 100%, the way pep handled Foden has looked like a masterstroke. Get the longevity out of him then. Although on his current trajectory it wont be long until a big boy comes in and try's get him off us |
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Post by bettyswallox on Sept 9, 2024 8:47:48 GMT
I'd agree we have to start him, but that being said I hope we manage him correctly. In years gone by you've seen what a overload of minutes can do to footballers later down the line, he will still be growing ect. Although he's good enough to start everyweek it's not sensible to put that many minutes into a player that young You've got to manage young players really carefully. Compare Foden with Rooney. One has been gradually brought through - despite having the talent to play - while the other was flogged to death and was a busted flush in his late 20s. Some clowns still think it was the wrong approach and that they'd have done a better job than Guardiola. Yep, been so many examples of young prodigies being overplayed in their teens / early twenties and as a result their career at the top level is done by the time they're 30. Rooney, Owen, Fernando Torres, Robbie Fowler. Even the likes of Micah Richards and Aaron Lennon were the next big thing at 20 only to have run out of steam by their late 20's. Even with us there's a strong argument that Shawcross would've had an extra few years at the top level and avoided all those back injuries if TP hadn't forces him to take painkillers to play through injury in his early career. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 9, 2024 9:09:24 GMT
3 games in 7 days coming up so would expect maximum rotation & earlier subs
we won away last time
I'd play same midfield v Oxford: Burger, Moran & Bae with all changed for Fleetwood
if anyone drops out its Bae who wasn't quite at it at Plymouth until ne moved back wide
If Junho plays wide & Sol comes in Koumas to drop out however given Cannon not started this season Cannon off Koumas on around the hour is probable? .
Alternatively Sol could could start instead of Burger
in a really good place in midfield now, we can take out any one of the 4: Burger, Sol, Junho & Moran & still have really good quality, with 5 subs there's much less issue re starting/being on the bench than used to be the case
Seko is an unknown yet,
Lawal to come in later on
plus handy cover in Thompson
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 9, 2024 9:37:00 GMT
Has to start against Oxford with Burger and Moran. Why does he have to? He is definitely in the shake up but a lot will depend on his condition when he comes back. If he’s shagged after the travel and matches then we have plenty of options. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 9, 2024 10:35:33 GMT
He got the assist for the goal He’s had rave reviews re his performance today. He should be starting on Saturday but he won’t . Don't forget that this was against boys of a similar age. He looked good but that doesn't mean he can do it against seasoned pros who are adept at doing things when referees can't see, especially as his stock rises. Trust Schumacher to look after him properly. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 9, 2024 10:41:26 GMT
I'd agree we have to start him, but that being said I hope we manage him correctly. In years gone by you've seen what a overload of minutes can do to footballers later down the line, he will still be growing ect. Although he's good enough to start everyweek it's not sensible to put that many minutes into a player that young You've got to manage young players really carefully. Compare Foden with Rooney. One has been gradually brought through - despite having the talent to play - while the other was flogged to death and was a busted flush in his late 20s. Some clowns still think it was the wrong approach and that they'd have done a better job than Guardiola. Wazza was not a busted flush in his late 20s, he was scoring double figures in a charity shop United team. |
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Post by Caddick988 on Sept 9, 2024 10:57:10 GMT
Chris Rigg has proven for Sunderland if you're good enough, it doesn't matter how old you are. I think Sidibe has proven so far this season he has all the right attributes to be able to compete at this level so I'd like to see him given more game time.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 9, 2024 11:02:14 GMT
3 games in 7 days coming up so would expect maximum rotation & earlier subs we won away last time I'd play same midfield v Oxford: Burger, Moran & Bae with all changed for Fleetwood if anyone drops out its Bae who wasn't quite at it at Plymouth until ne moved back wide If Junho plays wide & Sol comes in Koumas to drop out however given Cannon not started this season Cannon off Koumas on around the hour is probable? . Alternatively Sol could could start instead of Burger in a really good place in midfield now, we can take out any one of the 4: Burger, Sol, Junho & Moran & still have really good quality, with 5 subs there's much less issue re starting/being on the bench than used to be the case Seko is an unknown yet, Lawal to come in later on plus handy cover in Thompson It's just such a huge relief reading that and not having to put Laurent in the equation anymore. |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 9, 2024 11:22:07 GMT
As soon as Sol gets a run of 3 starts he won’t be a sub again. He’s that good. Understand he’s young and that
He will be our record sale when the time comes.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Sept 9, 2024 15:15:15 GMT
He needs the right encouragement and patience from the crowd too. The lads going to make mistakes and we need to be ready for it. We've been here before.
Who remembers Florent Cuvelier, Adam Porter, Lasse Sorensen, Ollie Shenton, Thibauld Verlinden, Julien Ngoy, Liam Delap, DWP.
We dont have a great history with young players sadly which is a real shame as we've had some great ones who have gone on to have decent careers elsewhere.
But looking at the current crop. Dixon, Emre, Lowe, Sol, Simkin, Anderson and then Junior, Lawal, Million, Jun ho a bit older. The future is very bright, hopefully some more start to show up in the academy shortly!
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Post by Ron on Sept 9, 2024 15:59:39 GMT
Rigg starting for Sunderland week in, week out. Just pick him. Please.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 9, 2024 16:01:41 GMT
He needs the right encouragement and patience from the crowd too. The lads going to make mistakes and we need to be ready for it. We've been here before. Who remembers Florent Cuvelier, Adam Porter, Lasse Sorensen, Ollie Shenton, Thibauld Verlinden, Julien Ngoy, Liam Delap, DWP. We dont have a great history with young players sadly which is a real shame as we've had some great ones who have gone on to have decent careers elsewhere. But looking at the current crop. Dixon, Emre, Lowe, Sol, Simkin, Anderson and then Junior, Lawal, Million, Jun ho a bit older. The future is very bright, hopefully some more start to show up in the academy shortly! I didn't have much hope for any of them to be honest. Sorensen maybe. Sidibe and Tezgel are clearly far more talented. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2024 17:20:23 GMT
Has to start against Oxford with Burger and Moran. Why does he have to? He is definitely in the shake up but a lot will depend on his condition when he comes back. If he’s shagged after the travel and matches then we have plenty of options. Because it’s the only midfield that makes sense. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 9, 2024 17:42:16 GMT
Why does he have to? He is definitely in the shake up but a lot will depend on his condition when he comes back. If he’s shagged after the travel and matches then we have plenty of options. Because it’s the only midfield that makes sense. If he’s fully fit and not in danger of doing too much too soon then I think he’s very much a potential starter. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2024 17:45:44 GMT
You've got to manage young players really carefully. Compare Foden with Rooney. One has been gradually brought through - despite having the talent to play - while the other was flogged to death and was a busted flush in his late 20s. Some clowns still think it was the wrong approach and that they'd have done a better job than Guardiola. Yep, been so many examples of young prodigies being overplayed in their teens / early twenties and as a result their career at the top level is done by the time they're 30. Rooney, Owen, Fernando Torres, Robbie Fowler. Even the likes of Micah Richards and Aaron Lennon were the next big thing at 20 only to have run out of steam by their late 20's. Even with us there's a strong argument that Shawcross would've had an extra few years at the top level and avoided all those back injuries if TP hadn't forces him to take painkillers to play through injury in his early career. V thought provoking post, (Slightly off topic of the thread, buuuuut:) Do you reckon that's what happened to Raheem Sterling? He looked unplayable for so long and then suddenly like a League two bench warmer. RE: Sol - Think he does need careful management, balanced against the need to accelerate his development. Look at those players you've listed, they were flames burning twice as bright, just for half as long as your Steven Fletcher's etc. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 9, 2024 18:21:39 GMT
He needs the right encouragement and patience from the crowd too. The lads going to make mistakes and we need to be ready for it. We've been here before. Who remembers Florent Cuvelier, Adam Porter, Lasse Sorensen, Ollie Shenton, Thibauld Verlinden, Julien Ngoy, Liam Delap, DWP. We dont have a great history with young players sadly which is a real shame as we've had some great ones who have gone on to have decent careers elsewhere. But looking at the current crop. Dixon, Emre, Lowe, Sol, Simkin, Anderson and then Junior, Lawal, Million, Jun ho a bit older. The future is very bright, hopefully some more start to show up in the academy shortly! i blame Bayern , as soon as he starts to championing them they end up at some obscure club 😉🤣😂 |
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