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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 11:21:04 GMT
I’m sorry, but it’s not exactly logical to compare Man City and Man Utd to Stoke. As above, Man City just seemingly purchased four very good U16s keepers. For the most part, Stoke get their cast offs or the players that they don’t think are worth it. You may as well compare Stoke’s first team to Man City’s or Man Utd’s. They can all say “young”, they all are young. That doesn’t mean that Stoke’s U21s this year wasn’t gutted of experienced players that would have improved their results: Baker, Sparrow, Jones, Malone, Tezgel, Lowe and Macari were all gone/on loan/called up and not used. That’s a fair point but surely other teams do the same. We can’t escape the fact that in their league, the only team we finished above had no players of their own to field. I think it goes in cycles. The year before that team was doing very well. I’d imagine that next year, it will do much better as some teams above will be in a similar position to us this year while our own players will have grown (physically and mentally). Outwardly, he seemed very well thought of as well. I don’t agree with Bayern that results aren’t important but I do agree that there are some other elements that matter equally. Each player will have a development plan. If players are meeting those plans routinely, then the coach is doing their job well. Ultimately, you want the development plan to eventually reach the first team but the vast majority are never going to get close.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 6, 2023 12:04:21 GMT
That’s a fair point but surely other teams do the same. We can’t escape the fact that in their league, the only team we finished above had no players of their own to field. I think it goes in cycles. The year before that team was doing very well. I’d imagine that next year, it will do much better as some teams above will be in a similar position to us this year while our own players will have grown (physically and mentally). Outwardly, he seemed very well thought of as well. I don’t agree with Bayern that results aren’t important but I do agree that there are some other elements that matter equally. Each player will have a development plan. If players are meeting those plans routinely, then the coach is doing their job well. Ultimately, you want the development plan to eventually reach the first team but the vast majority are never going to get close. Results are a difficult question. Certainly in the younger age groups they should be unimportant and putting skills you have learned into a competitive situation is more important than the result as long as players are learning and improving, not repeating mistakes. By U21 and certainly U18 level though results should be just as important as putting skills and tactics into play. A winning mentality is so important in professional sport and I would argue has to be instilled from the age of 11 if not before. You will not succeed as a professional unless you are prepared to compete. I am sure there are numerous examples of very fine technical players who never made it because they had no guts or fight for a physical battle. If you accept defeat as understandable and make excuses like 'we were younger,' 'we were unlucky', 'they were bigger', 'they had an experienced player playing for them', 'we should have had a penalty'. 'things went against us' then you end up with the attitude we have decried in our first team for six years. Heads drop at a setback, we accept defeat as inevitable as soon as we concede, we lack self belief. Winners don't make excuses or accept defeat, they fight until they drop. That attitude needs to be instilled from an early age.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2023 18:09:41 GMT
Tick tock on another one still….maybe.
Culltastic
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 6, 2023 21:52:47 GMT
Tick tock on another one still….maybe. Culltastic Begin with a G ?
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Post by bhp on Jun 15, 2023 8:02:16 GMT
One of the U18/U21 positions, most likely U18, will be filled by a current member of the U21 (PDP) coaching staff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2023 16:33:59 GMT
Tick tock on another one still….maybe. Culltastic Begin with a G ? And so it happens. Offered his resignation, no idea when but I got told just before I posted this. Madness
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 12, 2023 19:56:31 GMT
And so it happens. Offered his resignation, no idea when but I got told just before I posted this. Madness Any idiot or couple of idiots can knock a wall down it’s a real skill to rebuild it right now we know we’ve the former but zero evidence we’ve the latter
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 12, 2023 20:04:03 GMT
And so it happens. Offered his resignation, no idea when but I got told just before I posted this. Madness Who he?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jul 12, 2023 20:06:29 GMT
And so it happens. Offered his resignation, no idea when but I got told just before I posted this. Madness Who he? Gareth Owen gone
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 12, 2023 20:08:57 GMT
Interesting it occurs when Neil is visibly out of the country albeit presumably he Owen reports to slicky Ricky what’s pretty clear is any attempt to wins hearts and minds is long gone question is , is the baby going out with the bath water
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Post by ceejays on Jul 12, 2023 20:11:11 GMT
And so it happens. Offered his resignation, no idea when but I got told just before I posted this. Madness Any idiot or couple of idiots can knock a wall down it’s a real skill to rebuild it right now we know we’ve the former but zero evidence we’ve the latter I got told - yeah right - it was on Facebook for an hour before !! Nice one
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 12, 2023 20:13:04 GMT
Any idiot or couple of idiots can knock a wall down it’s a real skill to rebuild it right now we know we’ve the former but zero evidence we’ve the latter I got told - yeah right - it was on Facebook for an hour before !! Nice one he was told ages ago numb nuts 🙄
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Post by ceejays on Jul 13, 2023 0:08:19 GMT
I got told - yeah right - it was on Facebook for an hour before !! Nice one he was told ages ago numb nuts 🙄 Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2023 0:35:01 GMT
I don’t really understand the scorched earth idea. I know that when mergers take place, a lot of redundancies happen. However, that’s usually because jobs become redundant. How many businesses just remove all of their main staff and start again? When technical difficulties come up, who solves them if no one has experience of the infrastructure? It just seems like a great way to slow down the club even further.
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 13, 2023 4:59:23 GMT
he was told ages ago numb nuts 🙄 Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r . he’s on about his previous message , do keep up dickhead
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Post by Gods on Jul 13, 2023 5:00:44 GMT
I don’t really understand the scorched earth idea. I know that when mergers take place, a lot of redundancies happen. However, that’s usually because jobs become redundant. How many businesses just remove all of their main staff and start again? When technical difficulties come up, who solves them if no one has experience of the infrastructure? It just seems like a great way to slow down the club even further. I've been in the corporate world for more than 30 years and I've never seen one of these testosterone fuelled hatchet jobs go well. My confidence in the present leadership team to turn things around is as close to zero as makes no difference. Only thing in our favour is the first few fixtures are relatively easy so perhaps we can gain some early momentum.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 13, 2023 5:06:55 GMT
he was told ages ago numb nuts 🙄 Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r . “This message” as in the one quoted in the one he’s replying to - tick tick on another one, from over a month ago. 🙄
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 13, 2023 5:15:24 GMT
Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r . “This message” as in the one quoted in the one he’s replying to - tick tick on another one, from over a month ago. 🙄 wasting your time , some are too thick to understand
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 13, 2023 13:38:11 GMT
Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r . “This message” as in the one quoted in the one he’s replying to - tick tick on another one, from over a month ago. 🙄 This is basically the problem with when these threads from yonks get resurrected. It makes the board more difficult to navigate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 13, 2023 16:10:54 GMT
he was told ages ago numb nuts 🙄 Yeah right - can you not understand English then . ? I was told just before posting this message he says . Got it ? Or do you need a lesson in understanding English ? Jesus what a tit u r . No I was told in June. You need the lesson 🤣🤣🤦♂️
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 22, 2023 12:58:32 GMT
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