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Post by greystokie on Sept 20, 2024 21:25:24 GMT
Our whole defence were utter shit, as were Burger, Junho and Cannon. Terrible second half performance but that is nothing new of course from this shower. Is it just me that thinks our whole defence is worse when Gibson plays? Yes, Wilmot was bad but so were the other 3 defenders as well. It's worrying how bad they all are |
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Post by ibby on Sept 20, 2024 21:25:35 GMT
Took his goal well.
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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Sept 20, 2024 21:25:56 GMT
Shame as he was excellent until his mistake….. we completely switched off when the goalie got injured.....the game changed there and then. though we were giving them too much of the ball for all the second half I thought when Koumas went off we went very flat instantly. You watch the game waiting for the Wilmot mistake, even when he’s initially playing ok like tonight. (Great header for goal. Solid.ish.) . It’s an expectation sadly. Simply can’t start. |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 20, 2024 21:28:26 GMT
We will do well to stay up as those players will not win games! We have Phillips and perhaps Laval to make a difference until January. It’s going to be a long autumn!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 7:33:40 GMT
When will people finally realise that this bloke is an absolute calamity?
We play so much better when he is injured. And I say that because invariably when he’s fit our idiot managers play him despite results often getting better when he’s out.
He does nothing well.
The only positive from last night is surely to God the new man has seen that Wilmot is just fucking wank and will never want to see that shit show again?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 21, 2024 7:37:38 GMT
He played well first half.
2nd half he was horrendous.
He’s nowhere near as bad as you make out, in my opinion, but performances like his second half collapse last night help your opinion more than they do mine.
Gibson is absolutely no better whichever way we look at them so does that mean we now turn to Rose and Philips?
Rose is an expert at making that Wilmot pass that led to their 2nd goal 🤦♂️
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 21, 2024 7:39:26 GMT
When will people finally realise that this bloke is an absolute calamity? We play so much better when he is injured. And I say that because invariably when he’s fit our idiot managers play him despite results often getting better when he’s out. He does nothing well. The only positive from last night is surely to God the new man has seen that Wilmot is just fucking wank and will never want to see that shit show again? The bloke in his 30s that we gave a 3 year deal playing next to him is hardly covering himself in glory either. Top work, Jon |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 7:40:04 GMT
He played well first half. 2nd half he was horrendous. He’s nowhere near as bad as you make out, in my opinion, but performances like his second half collapse last night help your opinion more than they do mine. Gibson is absolutely no better whichever way we look at them so does that mean we now turn to Rose and Philips? Rose is an expert at making that Wilmot pass that led to their 2nd goal 🤦♂️ It’s every game he plays and it usually costs us. He’s consistently done it. He thinks he’s Beckenbauer when he is an absolute dog shit footballer. Rose is average at best but has showed he can at least form a partnership with someone and get results (McNally). Wilmot just drags down everyone around him. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 21, 2024 7:44:25 GMT
He played well first half. 2nd half he was horrendous. He’s nowhere near as bad as you make out, in my opinion, but performances like his second half collapse last night help your opinion more than they do mine. Gibson is absolutely no better whichever way we look at them so does that mean we now turn to Rose and Philips? Rose is an expert at making that Wilmot pass that led to their 2nd goal 🤦♂️ It’s every game he plays and it usually costs us. He’s consistently done it. He thinks he’s Beckenbauer when he is an absolute dog shit footballer. Rose is average at best but has showed he can at least form a partnership with someone and get results (McNally). Wilmot just drags down everyone around him. It’s not every game he plays though is it because I don’t recall a goal he’s cost us this season until last night. Interestingly, when we switched to 3 at back to chase the game, he looked even worse than normal. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 7:48:08 GMT
It’s every game he plays and it usually costs us. He’s consistently done it. He thinks he’s Beckenbauer when he is an absolute dog shit footballer. Rose is average at best but has showed he can at least form a partnership with someone and get results (McNally). Wilmot just drags down everyone around him. It’s not every game he plays though is it because I don’t recall a goal he’s cost us this season until last night. Interestingly, when we switched to 3 at back to chase the game, he looked even worse than normal. It is, he’s a walking disaster area. He’s just absolutely fucking shit and league one standard at best. He does nothing well. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2024 7:51:02 GMT
He played well first half. 2nd half he was horrendous. He’s nowhere near as bad as you make out, in my opinion, but performances like his second half collapse last night help your opinion more than they do mine. Gibson is absolutely no better whichever way we look at them so does that mean we now turn to Rose and Philips? Rose is an expert at making that Wilmot pass that led to their 2nd goal 🤦♂️ My view too Been really disappointed in Gibson,no apparent leadership on the pitch and made mistakes Phillips is the best of the bunch Rose had a really good spell last season but has also shown the same unforced suicide pass too often |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2024 7:52:20 GMT
He’s actually got the attributes to be fine at this level, but his knack for making errors is unbelievable. Has he, crap at passing, not great in the air and one of the weakest CBs in the league, where are these attributes you speak of. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 7:53:23 GMT
He’s actually got the attributes to be fine at this level, but his knack for making errors is unbelievable. Has he, crap at passing, not great in the air and one of the weakest CBs in the league, where are these attributes you speak of. He does nothing well. His best attribute is that he’s that bad that he makes those around him worse. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 21, 2024 7:58:29 GMT
And yet he scored our only goal and in his brief time out of position at RB looked like Cafu compared to the horror show he replaced.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2024 7:58:52 GMT
He played well first half. 2nd half he was horrendous. He’s nowhere near as bad as you make out, in my opinion, but performances like his second half collapse last night help your opinion more than they do mine. Gibson is absolutely no better whichever way we look at them so does that mean we now turn to Rose and Philips? Rose is an expert at making that Wilmot pass that led to their 2nd goal 🤦♂️ Constant bottom half finishes with him as the main man at the back also helps the opinion. He's not good enough, as 3/4 choice okay he'd do but for him to seemingly be irreplaceable is a huge worry. I'd have Rose over Wilmot for a while and Phillips looks a player so should be one of the first names on the team sheet, Dixon might be worth giving serious consideration to as well. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 7:59:16 GMT
And yet he scored our only goal and in his brief time out of position at RB looked like Cafu compared to the horror show he replaced. He looked toss at right back. |
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Post by jay1610 on Sept 21, 2024 7:59:27 GMT
He’s actually got the attributes to be fine at this level, but his knack for making errors is unbelievable. Has he, crap at passing, not great in the air and one of the weakest CBs in the league, where are these attributes you speak of. He’s middle of the road on most metrics when compared to his peers at this level. I’m not saying I rate him, I’m just saying the individual errors he makes are his most limiting factor and not his overall ability. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 21, 2024 7:59:59 GMT
It’s every game he plays and it usually costs us. He’s consistently done it. He thinks he’s Beckenbauer when he is an absolute dog shit footballer. Rose is average at best but has showed he can at least form a partnership with someone and get results (McNally). Wilmot just drags down everyone around him. It’s not every game he plays though is it because I don’t recall a goal he’s cost us this season until last night. Interestingly, when we switched to 3 at back to chase the game, he looked even worse than normal. Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals. 1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular! 3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him. I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2024 8:01:04 GMT
Has he, crap at passing, not great in the air and one of the weakest CBs in the league, where are these attributes you speak of. He’s middle of the road on most metrics when compared to his peers at this level. I’m not saying I rate him, I’m just saying the individual errors he makes are his most limiting factor and not his overall ability. He shouldn't be more than back up. There's nothing good to his game. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 8:02:12 GMT
It’s not every game he plays though is it because I don’t recall a goal he’s cost us this season until last night. Interestingly, when we switched to 3 at back to chase the game, he looked even worse than normal. Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals. 1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular! 3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him. I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think. It’s just a coincidence that we get better when he’s injured and worse when he’s playing. He’s so fucking bad. How everyone can’t see it is beyond me. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 21, 2024 8:05:55 GMT
I posted this on the other thread.
Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals.
1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular!
3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him.
I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 21, 2024 8:09:19 GMT
And yet he scored our only goal and in his brief time out of position at RB looked like Cafu compared to the horror show he replaced. He looked toss at right back. Correct. I stand by my comparison. |
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Post by jay1610 on Sept 21, 2024 8:14:20 GMT
He’s middle of the road on most metrics when compared to his peers at this level. I’m not saying I rate him, I’m just saying the individual errors he makes are his most limiting factor and not his overall ability. He shouldn't be more than back up. There's nothing good to his game. I completely agree with your first point. |
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Post by monkeycat on Sept 21, 2024 8:18:13 GMT
Whole defence is awful
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 21, 2024 8:20:51 GMT
Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals. 1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular! 3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him. I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think. It’s just a coincidence that we get better when he’s injured and worse when he’s playing. He’s so fucking bad. How everyone can’t see it is beyond me. |
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Post by HarryTheHat on Sept 21, 2024 8:24:22 GMT
It’s not every game he plays though is it because I don’t recall a goal he’s cost us this season until last night. Interestingly, when we switched to 3 at back to chase the game, he looked even worse than normal. Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals. 1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular! 3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him. I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think. You'll never change Rita's mind he's dug himself into an intractable position with his constant vilification of Wilmot and can't lose face so consistently doubles down each week to try and reinforce his incorrect opinion. Because the same handful of people like his posts, he obviously thinks he has a point and is speaking for the majority. He isn't, obviously, but on planet Rita, his word is gospel. Wilmot did make a bad mistake for their second goal and this of course is catnip to Rita and his little mob of usual suspects who sit there salivating waiting for the lad to put a foot wrong in a game so they can commence their torrent of abuse each week. Wilmot was fine prior to that mistake and scored a good goal, but we'll overlook that shall we? Their 1st is 100% on Bocat who has already cost us more goals than any other defender this season. The 3rd wasn't Wilmot's fault despite it being given as an o.g., he was the one trying to prevent it by lunging in. Wilmot was no worse than any of his defensive colleagues last night, and in Junior's case Wilmot was 10x better. But let's keep blaming Wilmot for everything shall we? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 8:26:58 GMT
Being away on holiday I’ve only been able to watch extended highlights via YouTube and can only comment on the goals. 1st Goal. Yes a mis-placed poor pass. However their player collects/receives the ball about 35 yards from goal. If you get chance to watch again (if you can stomach it 😂) see how many players are between him and advancing forward and are very poor in trying to retrieve the ball. One in particular! 3rd Goal. It’s a slice of luck (all credit to the Hull player for being positive) where it comes off the inside of Wilmot’s leg/ankle. As goal 1 if can watch again see how easy it is for the Hull player to gain the advantage and Stoke the forward into the danger area. See one particular players attempt to stop him. I’m certainly not trying to convince anyone that he is a great player, however he certainly isn’t as bad as some would try to make you think. You'll never change Rita's mind he's dug himself into an intractable position with his constant vilification of Wilmot and can't lose face so consistently doubles down each week to try and reinforce his incorrect opinion. Because the same handful of people like his posts, he obviously thinks he has a point and is speaking for the majority. He isn't, obviously, but on planet Rita, his word is gospel. Wilmot did make a bad mistake for their second goal and this of course is catnip to Rita and his little mob of usual suspects who sit there salivating waiting for the lad to put a foot wrong in a game so they can commence their torrent of abuse each week. Wilmot was fine prior to that mistake and scored a good goal, but we'll overlook that shall we? Their 1st is 100% on Bocat who has already cost us more goals than any other defender this season. The 3rd wasn't Wilmot's fault despite it being given as an o.g., he was the one trying to prevent it by lunging in. Wilmot was no worse than any of his defensive colleagues last night, and in Junior's case Wilmot was 10x better. But let's keep blaming Wilmot for everything shall we? He wasn’t fine prior to that. His passing was awful as per usual and he was all over the place. He’s an absolute clown. And keeps showing it. |
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Post by HarryTheHat on Sept 21, 2024 8:28:27 GMT
You'll never change Rita's mind he's dug himself into an intractable position with his constant vilification of Wilmot and can't lose face so consistently doubles down each week to try and reinforce his incorrect opinion. Because the same handful of people like his posts, he obviously thinks he has a point and is speaking for the majority. He isn't, obviously, but on planet Rita, his word is gospel. Wilmot did make a bad mistake for their second goal and this of course is catnip to Rita and his little mob of usual suspects who sit there salivating waiting for the lad to put a foot wrong in a game so they can commence their torrent of abuse each week. Wilmot was fine prior to that mistake and scored a good goal, but we'll overlook that shall we? Their 1st is 100% on Bocat who has already cost us more goals than any other defender this season. The 3rd wasn't Wilmot's fault despite it being given as an o.g., he was the one trying to prevent it by lunging in. Wilmot was no worse than any of his defensive colleagues last night, and in Junior's case Wilmot was 10x better. But let's keep blaming Wilmot for everything shall we? He wasn’t fine prior to that. His passing was awful as per usual and he was all over the place. He’s an absolute clown. And keeps showing it. Yeah, OK Rita, whatever you say |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 21, 2024 8:45:55 GMT
Sign centre back after centre back on the cheap year in year out so Wilmot looks slightly less wank than his potential replacement. Walter’s clearly didn’t learn that our most successful period in my lifetime started with centre backs who could actually defend. Wilmot is absolutely wank and a huge part of the wankness we’ve witnessed for 7 years.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 21, 2024 8:53:18 GMT
Hes wank but why does he take the blame for tonight? At least he scored a fukcing goal whilst all our attackers were basically jerking themselves off all night Reckon it had anything to do with him assisting and scoring their goals? |
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