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Post by superpotter on Sept 21, 2024 8:55:56 GMT
If Wilmot is shit what does that make Junior .
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2024 8:59:08 GMT
Do we really have to play a central defender who has a brain fart every second game at least and that cost us many points during a season? For me the patience with him is over! He is fourth or fifth choice for me now as he never seems to improve on this matter. Phillips needs to play alongside Gibson if we go for two central defenders, even Rose and Dixon should be ahead of Wilmot as things stand. He really seems unable to assess situations when he is on the ball, and all his numerous mistakes with the ball at his feet since his arrival is ridiculous! Enough is enough!  |
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Post by tommystoke123 on Sept 21, 2024 9:01:33 GMT
When did we last sign a CB who wasn’t a loan or free agent?
Need to buy some quality, not just has been free agents and a prem teams young CB, every single summer we are changing the CB pairing get some stability FFS and get Wilmot out
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 21, 2024 9:01:40 GMT
Which makes our summer recruitment look, yet again, an utter disaster. |
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:02:51 GMT
Never been the same since he cut his hair off.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:43:39 GMT
I would pay another club who is skint to take him off our hands in Jan.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 21, 2024 10:09:52 GMT
What chance has any manager, coach, team got when your centre back and both full backs can't defend or pass a ball.
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Post by senojbor on Sept 21, 2024 10:22:16 GMT
He played very well on the whole Played better at full back but the damage had been done
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 21, 2024 10:43:21 GMT
I actually think Wilmot is better when he plays on the right of a back three. He was mint in those early days with Souttar and Østigård. He also demonstrated excellent long range passing from that position.
Unfortunately he’s just very poor as a CB and makes so many errors. I like to think Phillips would have played if he wasn’t out for concussion.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 10:54:16 GMT
If he is picked again,it should be sackable offence to whoever picks him.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 11:17:42 GMT
He did score our goal to be fair to him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 11:20:45 GMT
He did score our goal to be fair to him. But how many has he cost us over the years? |
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Post by jordan2009 on Sept 21, 2024 11:22:58 GMT
I'd seriously be looking who's available on a free and offer them a contract until the end of the season. Last time I looked Matip ex Liverpool and Williams, ex United were available. Junior is shockingly poor. As for the centre backs I've got no faith in Wilmot, Gibson or Rose. The alternative is Phillips and Dixon. They can't be any worse
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Post by anchorman on Sept 21, 2024 11:23:20 GMT
Can't argue with this especially his passing ability Especially his heading, defending & tackling ability too! |
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Post by RF10 on Sept 21, 2024 11:23:30 GMT
He's always got a mistake in him. He can't pass even though he seems to think he can, playing him with the style of football is just not going to work at all.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 21, 2024 11:26:53 GMT
I'd seriously be looking who's available on a free and offer them a contract until the end of the season. Last time I looked Matip ex Liverpool and Williams, ex United were available. Junior is shockingly poor. As for the centre backs I've got no faith in Wilmot, Gibson or Rose. The alternative is Phillips and Dixon. They can't be any worse I think Ciaran Clark is available. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 11:28:00 GMT
He did score our goal to be fair to him. But how many has he cost us over the years? Not saying he's great but let's face it he ain't the only one. This is a collection of problems. Lack of fitness, very little chemistry between key positions. Pelach has a lot to sort out. And until they are fit enough to play his style he's gonna have to be very innovative to make them solid enough for us to get through the next 4 fixtures to the international break. A messy set of results in the next 4 games could see us descending into chaos. There is a very strange atmosphere that's been created with this sudden dismissal of Schumacher. Walters has managed this whole situation very poorly indeed. It will not be forgotten. Walters will be one very concerned man after that last night... |
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Post by stokief on Sept 21, 2024 11:31:02 GMT
But how many has he cost us over the years? Not saying he's great but let's face it he ain't the only one. This is a collection of problems. Lack of fitness, very little chemistry between key positions. Pelach has a lot to sort out. And until they are fit enough to play his style he's gonna have to be very innovative to make them solid enough for us to get through the next 4 fixtures to the international break. A messy set of results in the next 4 games could see us descending into chaos. There is a very strange atmosphere that's been created with this sudden dismissal of Schumacher. Walters has managed this whole situation very poorly indeed. It will not be forgotten. Walters will be one very concerned man after that last night... The strange atmosphere has hung over us for seasons I'm afraid. It's just how to dispel it and replace it with blue skies and sunshine. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 11:34:16 GMT
Not saying he's great but let's face it he ain't the only one. This is a collection of problems. Lack of fitness, very little chemistry between key positions. Pelach has a lot to sort out. And until they are fit enough to play his style he's gonna have to be very innovative to make them solid enough for us to get through the next 4 fixtures to the international break. A messy set of results in the next 4 games could see us descending into chaos. There is a very strange atmosphere that's been created with this sudden dismissal of Schumacher. Walters has managed this whole situation very poorly indeed. It will not be forgotten. Walters will be one very concerned man after that last night... The strange atmosphere has hung over us for seasons I'm afraid. It's just how to dispel it and replace it with blue skies and sunshine. There was most definitely something different in the air last night. |
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2024 11:41:25 GMT
The strange atmosphere has hung over us for seasons I'm afraid. It's just how to dispel it and replace it with blue skies and sunshine. There was most definitely something different in the air last night. You chose the word that sums it all up - chemistry. Stoke City has become a laboratory where the chief chemist doesn't know what he is trying to achieve let alone which reagents and chemicals he needs, and is reaching for every bottle on the fucking shelves. And then when the next mixture goes bang he starts all over again without any knowledge of procedures. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 21, 2024 11:48:41 GMT
There was most definitely something different in the air last night. You chose the word that sums it all up - chemistry. Stoke City has become a laboratory where the chief chemist doesn't know what he is trying to achieve let alone which reagents and chemicals he needs, and is reaching for every bottle on the fucking shelves. And then when the next mixture goes bang he starts all over again without any knowledge of procedures. Good analogy Skip. Got visions of Walters in his white lab coat acting like a mad scientist now 🤦♂️ |
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2024 11:51:02 GMT
You chose the word that sums it all up - chemistry. Stoke City has become a laboratory where the chief chemist doesn't know what he is trying to achieve let alone which reagents and chemicals he needs, and is reaching for every bottle on the fucking shelves. And then when the next mixture goes bang he starts all over again without any knowledge of procedures. Good analogy Skip. Got visions of Walters in his white lab coat acting like a mad scientist now 🤦♂️ Walters cobbling all kinds of shit together. Meanwhile Coates sits there admiring the plumes of smoke and taking in lungs full of funny smells. If you asked an industrial chemist to make something that sticks two things together, they'd ask you what the two things are, and take it from there - adhesive or solvent. We can't get past just thinking 'sticky'. |
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Post by clivey05 on Sept 21, 2024 12:06:11 GMT
The biggest thing for me with Wilmot is he has not improved at all since we signed him. Which basically means his current ability is his ceiling and the same mistakes will always keep happening. He’s a centre half in a right backs body!
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Post by thehoof on Sept 21, 2024 12:50:25 GMT
Playing out from the back is fine if you have the personnel who can do it.
Stoke haven’t.
We also played two CDM’s last night, one who has never played a forward pass in his life and who is worse than Pearson for bookings.
The other, I’d go and look around his house to see if there’s a giant Pea Pod lurking somewhere with the real Wouter Burger in it.
Out of the back 6 who played last night, not one of them can be trusted with a ball.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 21, 2024 13:16:19 GMT
The other strange thing is, either Wilmot or Gibson taking the goal kick, tapping it to Viktor who then leathers it down the pitch. Why doesn't Viktor just take it.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 21, 2024 13:19:04 GMT
My girlfriend, who knows nothing about football, said to me: "That number 16 is rubbish isn't he?" within the first quarter of an hour at Stockport.
It's any wonder that we're in dire straits if she can spot it yet those getting paid handsomely cannot.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 21, 2024 13:54:15 GMT
I have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not any more. He had a hand in all four goals. He was ball watching for the penalty, could not do much about the OG but done for Hull’s third. I doubt we’ll see him again
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Post by wokka59 on Sept 21, 2024 14:12:37 GMT
My girlfriend, who knows nothing about football, said to me: "That number 16 is rubbish isn't he?" within the first quarter of an hour at Stockport. It's any wonder that we're in dire straits if she can spot it yet those getting paid handsomely cannot. The clue is in the first 7 words of your post |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 21, 2024 14:16:50 GMT
I’m not a huge fan of Wilmot but I’m not sure the title of the thread is helpful.
I’m sure some of our players and their relatives read the Oatie. Reading that your shit does no one any favours.
Confidence is low already without it getting really personal.
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Post by onepara on Sept 21, 2024 15:10:22 GMT
I don't think that Gibson is as good as we thought that he would be. I thought that he would be more commanding than he is. That doesn't help the performance of Wilmot, who seems to me to try to do too much, so that some of it is poor. You certainly can't question his application.
Gibson needs to take control more. The back-line looks disjointed because there's no leader. That says a lot about Gibson, considering that he is the Captain, & should take control & keep the back-line together.
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