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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 17, 2023 19:56:25 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 17, 2023 20:23:49 GMT
The WBA player made no attempt to head the ball; if he had it would have been an upper body collision, His early jump was not directed towards the ball but was probably to disguise his objective. The fact that the ball was heading towards the Stoke penalty area and his movement was in the opposite direction (to the curve of the D) also demonstrates there was no accident. I agree it was a reckless and very dangerous action It warranted a red card, officials had several opportunities before this to enforce the rules of the game They didn’t and the reckless play became more serious By accident I mean in my opinion he did not mean to injure him. / cause such a serious injury- only Asante can answer that. West Brom should issue a genuine formal apology The EFL and refereeing organisation, need to consistently apply the rules of the game . The welfare of every player is paramount and if the sanctions need reviewing then much more severe sanctions should be there If it was "dangerous" or "reckless", it really doesn't matter if Asante meant to injure. The fact is he put Wilmot in a position of danger. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 17, 2023 20:27:45 GMT
Fantastic to see take care young man somehow very uplifting to see him looking so good , even if it’s long road back , ( not the most glamorous hospital setting ) but as long as they look after him and the news is good that’s all that matters |
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 17, 2023 20:30:45 GMT
 Leave this here |
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Post by roscoepcoltrane on Apr 17, 2023 20:43:39 GMT
So pleased that you have posted that photo. I thought I was going mad because at the time I was convinced he pulled him by the neck not the collar. This seems to check me out of the funny farm (can I still say that?) 😂. |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 17, 2023 21:22:21 GMT
Asantes feet havn't even left the ground according to that photo |
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 17, 2023 21:22:49 GMT
My understanding is that as the Referee DID NOT issue a caution the authorities can take a retrospective decison the incident.
As mentioned before if this was the PL the media would be going berserk.
Can you imagine if this had happened to Kane or any of the other media darlings?
Come on FA, come on SCFC demand action. It won’t do us or Ben any good but it will stop that cheating lowlife of a player and his team from continuing similar tactics, and shut up all their low life WBA media supporter warriors .
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Apr 17, 2023 21:23:52 GMT
Annoys me more every time I see it and NOBODY IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT 😡😡😡 |
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Post by lordb on Apr 17, 2023 22:08:32 GMT
The WBA player made no attempt to head the ball; if he had it would have been an upper body collision, His early jump was not directed towards the ball but was probably to disguise his objective. The fact that the ball was heading towards the Stoke penalty area and his movement was in the opposite direction (to the curve of the D) also demonstrates there was no accident. I agree it was a reckless and very dangerous action It warranted a red card, officials had several opportunities before this to enforce the rules of the game They didn’t and the reckless play became more serious By accident I mean in my opinion he did not mean to injure him. / cause such a serious injury- only Asante can answer that. West Brom should issue a genuine formal apology The EFL and refereeing organisation, need to consistently apply the rules of the game . The welfare of every player is paramount and if the sanctions need reviewing then much more severe sanctions should be there What else was he trying to do if not to hurt him? He literally no other reason to do what he did You don't need the player to tell you this it's right there |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 17, 2023 22:42:18 GMT
I agree it was a reckless and very dangerous action It warranted a red card, officials had several opportunities before this to enforce the rules of the game They didn’t and the reckless play became more serious By accident I mean in my opinion he did not mean to injure him. / cause such a serious injury- only Asante can answer that. West Brom should issue a genuine formal apology The EFL and refereeing organisation, need to consistently apply the rules of the game . The welfare of every player is paramount and if the sanctions need reviewing then much more severe sanctions should be there What else was he trying to do if not to hurt him? He literally no other reason to do what he did You don't need the player to tell you this it's right there Of course there's another reason, it gives him an advantage. If he gets away with it he's through on goal. You can play in a reckless or dangerous manner without actually setting out to injure someone, just like a reckless driver doesn't go out intending to mow a pedestrian down. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 17, 2023 23:19:53 GMT
I agree it was a reckless and very dangerous action It warranted a red card, officials had several opportunities before this to enforce the rules of the game They didn’t and the reckless play became more serious By accident I mean in my opinion he did not mean to injure him. / cause such a serious injury- only Asante can answer that. West Brom should issue a genuine formal apology The EFL and refereeing organisation, need to consistently apply the rules of the game . The welfare of every player is paramount and if the sanctions need reviewing then much more severe sanctions should be there What else was he trying to do if not to hurt him? He literally no other reason to do what he did You don't need the player to tell you this it's right there If he didn't intend to hurt him then he needs educating on what happens when you knock someone off balance when they are in the air and the seriousness of the injuries which could result from such reckless behaviour. Footballers should have a duty of care for other footballers. Wasn't Roy Keane once punished for admitting he'd intended hurting Alf Inge Haaland when he stamped on him? Surely the EFL should be asking Asante to explain what his intentions were when he pulled Wilmot from around the neck and then give him a punishment commensurate with the seriousness of the offence. This is an exceptional case. I don't think many players would do that to a fellow professional and I've never seen it happen before. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 17, 2023 23:22:57 GMT
And nor should the referees total disregard for player safety or West Brom’s cavalier attitude to the seriousness of an injury deliberately caused by one of their players be excused or forgotten either. But it will. It already has outside st4... I don't think it was ever acknowledged outside Stoke. The only national reporting I've seen just says Wilmot was carried off on a stretcher with oxygen after a coming together with Asante. Obviously no national journalist has bothered to look at a clip of what happened. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2023 0:53:19 GMT
What else was he trying to do if not to hurt him? He literally no other reason to do what he did You don't need the player to tell you this it's right there Of course there's another reason, it gives him an advantage. If he gets away with it he's through on goal. You can play in a reckless or dangerous manner without actually setting out to injure someone, just like a reckless driver doesn't go out intending to mow a pedestrian down.
Nah.
He knows the potential consequences of attempting to gain that advantage.
Ultimately, his actions could very seriously fuck the bloke up and he simply didn't care ...
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Apr 18, 2023 1:23:14 GMT
If WBA don't get promoted, the game against them next season will be tasty. I think Astante may get the same abuse as SWP did all those years ago. The brit as it was then at its best
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 18, 2023 2:25:15 GMT
Of course there's another reason, it gives him an advantage. If he gets away with it he's through on goal. You can play in a reckless or dangerous manner without actually setting out to injure someone, just like a reckless driver doesn't go out intending to mow a pedestrian down. Nah. He knows the potential consequences of attempting to gain that advantage. Ultimately, his actions could very seriously fuck the bloke up and he simply didn't care ...
Well I agree with all that so it’s probably just semantics about what “trying to hurt him” means - I was responding to the idea that there would be “no other reason” to do what he did. It should have been a red but I also agree with bayern that no ref gives it. It’s probably something that needs looking at. It actually reminded me of Arnie against Arsenal a few years ago - he nudged one of their players off balance and he ended up in the hoardings and badly injured. It looked innocuous but their fans were - rightly, in this instance - absolutely livid about it in exactly the same way we are now. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Apr 18, 2023 7:44:58 GMT
Cannot wait until we play them next year.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 18, 2023 9:14:38 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action |
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 18, 2023 9:24:47 GMT
Didn't realise Wilmot had had his left foot amputated as well! 😂😂 |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 18, 2023 9:29:05 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action We could Benj but you know full well the very next game one of our players would do something similar and be hammered. As a club it’s best to keep out of it. Officially. Plenty they could do out of the public eye. Just look what classless twats West Brom have made themselves look by going public with that brainless tweet on their official Twitter feed |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 18, 2023 9:40:55 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action We could Benj but you know full well the very next game one of our players would do something similar and be hammered. As a club it’s best to keep out of it. Officially. Plenty they could do out of the public eye. Just look what classless twats West Brom have made themselves look by going public with that brainless tweet on their official Twitter feed I think you could couch it as a player safety issue rather than tit for tat and also target the referee who candidly is a liability for the EFl they may well be glad to get shot |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 18, 2023 9:45:36 GMT
We could Benj but you know full well the very next game one of our players would do something similar and be hammered. As a club it’s best to keep out of it. Officially. Plenty they could do out of the public eye. Just look what classless twats West Brom have made themselves look by going public with that brainless tweet on their official Twitter feed I think you could couch it as a player safety issue rather than tit for tat and also target the referee who candidly is a liability for the EFl they may well be glad to get shot Mate I’ve no problem us as fans, and so the ‘club’ as such, targeting West Brom, their players and their tame referee.. Either in social media or from the stands. They all deserve the shitstorm that will eventually come their way. I just think the club ‘officially’ should stay out of it. Makes us look as classless as the Bags o’Shite. Which we’re not. |
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Post by stroller on Apr 18, 2023 11:51:00 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action Well said sir, that's exactly what the club should do. |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 18, 2023 12:17:56 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action They cannot act on a ref making a bad call only if on something the refsays he missed. He gave a foul so he obviously saw the incident and deemed it worthy of a foul and nothing more. |
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Post by superpej on Apr 18, 2023 12:41:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 13:28:05 GMT
Surely leaves the authorities with no choice but act retrospectively and I think we’ve a role to play as club here and come out aggressively demanding action They cannot act on a ref making a bad call only if on something the refsays he missed. He gave a foul so he obviously saw the incident and deemed it worthy of a foul and nothing more. He can't have seen what happened, because if he saw it, he would have seen it was blatant dangerous play and a blatant red card. He may have given a free kick, because the linesman flagged for a foul. But he didn't see what happened. If he had seen what happened, he would have red carded him ( any ref would) |
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 18, 2023 14:45:40 GMT
Nice rendition of we'll be with you on the 16th minute is in order tonight, I'm sure he'll be watching
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 18, 2023 15:01:28 GMT
They cannot act on a ref making a bad call only if on something the refsays he missed. He gave a foul so he obviously saw the incident and deemed it worthy of a foul and nothing more. He can't have seen what happened, because if he saw it, he would have seen it was blatant dangerous play and a blatant red card. He may have given a free kick, because the linesman flagged for a foul. But he didn't see what happened. If he had seen what happened, he would have red carded him ( any ref would) Not this Ref. How much else did he let go unpunished. |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 18, 2023 16:05:15 GMT
They cannot act on a ref making a bad call only if on something the refsays he missed. He gave a foul so he obviously saw the incident and deemed it worthy of a foul and nothing more. He can't have seen what happened, because if he saw it, he would have seen it was blatant dangerous play and a blatant red card. He may have given a free kick, because the linesman flagged for a foul. But he didn't see what happened. If he had seen what happened, he would have red carded him ( any ref would) He clearly did see the incident or his assistant did which is the same thing as far as the authorities are concerned and made a wrong call, an appallingly wrong call but one which gives no opportunity for retrospective action. How outraged we are, and rightly so in my opinion, makes absolutely no difference. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Apr 18, 2023 16:07:21 GMT
No justice, no peace.
Eff off this Ref!
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Post by block23 on Apr 18, 2023 16:28:50 GMT
Has anyone seen, or got, footage of the challenge on Hoover? Looked equally bad from where I was sitting
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