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Post by Waggy on Nov 6, 2022 19:53:24 GMT
Suella Braverman is a breathe of fresh air. Tells it how it is and the truth hurts some.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 19:53:54 GMT
If you want to have a proper debate about it y you sure absolutely weight their is too many asylum seekers in Stoke-on-Trent, the hotels they are being put in should be in the Home Counties, on the south coast, the East Coast of Scotland, Oxfordshire/Wiltshire and other parts of the county that currently don’t do anything to share the burden. But that’s not the fault of asylum seekers, so it doesn’t mean we still can’t show a bit of compassion and empathy. It’s the fault of the system now them. This isn’t a refuge crisis, it’s a Home Office crisis…… Yes it is the Home Office fault. Conservatives become the liberal party under Johnson. Too many economic refugees have entered Britain and criminal gangs from Albania, Kurds with money laundering in their barbers shops. They are sending money back home and not putting it into Britain. Piss is being taken out of us. You must agree. Refugees fleeing war is a different story but they are a small percentage coming over. Spot on |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:00:39 GMT
The circumstances of all those “Albanians” were reported in the media. Must have passed me by that….. The circumstances don’t come into it. We should not be accepting asylum seekers from a country where asylum is not required. 86% of successful asylum applicants from Albania in 2022 have been woman, most of whom have been trafficked and often sexually abused. Which of the those women do you think should have had their applications rejected? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:01:44 GMT
Suella Braverman is a breathe of fresh air. Tells it how it is and the truth hurts some. Can’t keep up with those Rwanda flights coming and going, she’s really smashing it out of the park……. |
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Post by Waggy on Nov 6, 2022 20:03:40 GMT
Suella Braverman is a breathe of fresh air. Tells it how it is and the truth hurts some. Can’t keep up with those Rwanda flights coming and going, she’s really smashing it out of the park……. She is spot on. It is an invasion. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 20:05:15 GMT
The circumstances don’t come into it. We should not be accepting asylum seekers from a country where asylum is not required. 86% of successful asylum applicants from Albania in 2022 have been woman, most of whom have been trafficked and often sexually abused. Which of the those women do you think should have had their applications rejected? To put it into context 90% of Albanian asylum seekers are men aged between 21 and 40. So there can’t be many in the bracket you describe. Vulnerable women of course should be considered but I’m not sure why Britain is the first port of call. Why do you think that is? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:05:49 GMT
Can’t keep up with those Rwanda flights coming and going, she’s really smashing it out of the park……. She is spot on. It is an invasion. Invasion my arse. You’d swallow any old shit fella…….. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:07:30 GMT
86% of successful asylum applicants from Albania in 2022 have been woman, most of whom have been trafficked and often sexually abused. Which of the those women do you think should have had their applications rejected? To put it into context 90% of Albanian asylum seekers are men aged between 21 and 40. So there can’t be many in the bracket you describe. Vulnerable women of course should be considered but I’m not sure why Britain is the first port of call. Why do you think that is? Those figures are from the Home Office. Are you saying they’ve made It up? And you honestly think Britain is the first port of call for immigrants? Have a looks the figures for the rest of Europe and the wider world and educate yourself …….. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 20:09:43 GMT
To put it into context 90% of Albanian asylum seekers are men aged between 21 and 40. So there can’t be many in the bracket you describe. Vulnerable women of course should be considered but I’m not sure why Britain is the first port of call. Why do you think that is? Those figures are from the Home Office. Are you saying they’ve made It up? And you honestly think Britain is the first port of call for immigrants? Have a looks the figures for the rest of Europe and the wider world and educate yourself …….. No, read again. I haven’t disputed your claim. You don’t need to patronise me mate about educating myself. No answer yet on how homelessness can be sorted “in the blink of an eye” either |
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Post by Waggy on Nov 6, 2022 20:11:43 GMT
She is spot on. It is an invasion. Invasion my arse. You’d swallow any old shit fella…….. People entering a country illegally in mass is an invasion. |
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Post by henry on Nov 6, 2022 20:17:34 GMT
Absolute disgrace that this is happening. But can't say I'm surprised, been saying all week about the threats these children are under. And yet the government are doing nothing about this and dragging their heels. If asylum applications were processed within 6 months which is the time period outlined on the gov website then a young boy would never have been raped. How many more children have to suffer at the hands of these evil callous scumbags. Absolute proof of why people were correct to reject a party that contained Diane Abbott. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 20:18:32 GMT
Invasion my arse. You’d swallow any old shit fella…….. People entering a country illegally in mass is an invasion. Correct |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:33:33 GMT
Those figures are from the Home Office. Are you saying they’ve made It up? And you honestly think Britain is the first port of call for immigrants? Have a looks the figures for the rest of Europe and the wider world and educate yourself …….. No, read again. I haven’t disputed your claim. You don’t need to patronise me mate about educating myself. No answer yet on how homelessness can be sorted “in the blink of an eye” either How was it solved during lockdown? And I’m not patronising you, by your own admission “you don’t do stats”…….. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 6, 2022 20:37:11 GMT
No, read again. I haven’t disputed your claim. You don’t need to patronise me mate about educating myself. No answer yet on how homelessness can be sorted “in the blink of an eye” either How was it solved during lockdown? And I’m not patronising you, by your own admission “you don’t do stats”…….. Around here? Hotels and glamping pods in a warehouse on regent road. macari-foundation.co.uk/2020/05/11/pods-inside-warehouse-during-coronavirus/ |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:41:38 GMT
Correct. An easy short term measure whilst medium to long term measures are put in place. I was volunteering in Gretater Manchester during the pandemic and all bar a handful of individuals with complexed needs were safe with a bed and a meal for the night. In other parts of the country the day lockdown ended those people were simply tossed back on to the streets to fend for themselves. As I said, when the will is there……. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 20:44:59 GMT
No, read again. I haven’t disputed your claim. You don’t need to patronise me mate about educating myself. No answer yet on how homelessness can be sorted “in the blink of an eye” either How was it solved during lockdown? And I’m not patronising you, by your own admission “you don’t do stats”…….. That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 6, 2022 20:45:37 GMT
Suella Braverman is a breathe of fresh air. Tells it how it is and the truth hurts some. No she isn't - she spouts the same rhetorical bollocks as Patel did and she's equally useless (if not more so). If you think 'telling it how it is" (your opinion not mine) will solve anything be prepared to be disappointed. Though it does provide a useful distraction from serial economic incompetence and a scapegoat for austerity. |
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Post by Waggy on Nov 6, 2022 20:48:40 GMT
Suella Braverman is a breathe of fresh air. Tells it how it is and the truth hurts some. No she isn't - she spouts the same rhetorical bollocks as Patel did and she's equally useless (if not more so). If you think 'telling it how it is" (your opinion not mine) will solve anything be prepared to be disappointed. Though it does provide a useful distraction from serial economic incompetence and a scapegoat for austerity. How would you solve this migrant crisis? Would you solve it? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:50:45 GMT
How was it solved during lockdown? And I’m not patronising you, by your own admission “you don’t do stats”…….. That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses The biggest rise in homelessness was caused by austerity which you failed to mention……. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 20:53:26 GMT
That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses The biggest rise in homelessness was caused by austerity which you failed to mention……. I disagree, homelessness has rocketed since mid 2020 as have knife crime, robbery, burglary, rape. I wonder why that is |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 6, 2022 20:55:42 GMT
How was it solved during lockdown? And I’m not patronising you, by your own admission “you don’t do stats”…….. That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses However everything else tells us there is a labour shortage. I thought Covid left the workforce depleted due to EU nationals going home and not returning and 50 pluses deciding the workforce was not for them? Brexiteers tell me there has never been a better time to get a new job than now (ask Mr Coke). Meanwhile the Home Office is processing asylum apllicants st a rste of 4% a year - until their application is accepted they can't work. Weatherspoons - for example - has been pleading for workers How therefore are immigrants taking British Nationals jobs? |
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Post by Foster on Nov 6, 2022 20:56:07 GMT
Has any Tory got a solution other than rhetoric?
It's no wonder these gangs get away with this shit when our own police and authorities are continously being kneecapped by a lack of funding, a lack of support, and a fear of reprisals.
It's time to get tough on crime, not genuine asylum seekers.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 6, 2022 20:58:21 GMT
No she isn't - she spouts the same rhetorical bollocks as Patel did and she's equally useless (if not more so). If you think 'telling it how it is" (your opinion not mine) will solve anything be prepared to be disappointed. Though it does provide a useful distraction from serial economic incompetence and a scapegoat for austerity. How would you solve this migrant crisis? Would you solve it? Set up safe routes so applications can be proceesed overseeas. Highlight main routes - oversee safe passage. Speed up processing frkm a pitiful 4%pa Allow asylum seekers to work for licenced employers whil UK apllications are being processed to reduce financial burden to the taxpayer. That would be a start |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 20:59:32 GMT
The biggest rise in homelessness was caused by austerity which you failed to mention……. I disagree, homelessness has rocketed since mid 2020 as have knife crime, robbery, burglary, rape. I wonder why that is Homelessness has increased since the pandemic, but the biggest rise in homelessness was between 2010 and 2017. Spit it out are you blaming knife crime, robbery, burglary and rape on immigrants? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 21:00:26 GMT
That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses However everything else tells us there is a labour shortage. I thought Covid left the workforce depleted due to EU nationals going home and not returning and 50 pluses deciding the workforce was not for them? Brexiteers tell me there has never been a better time to get a new job than now (ask Mr Coke). Meanwhile the Home Office is processing asylum apllicants st a rste of 4% a year - until their application is accepted they can't work. Weatherspoons - for example - has been pleading for workers How therefore are immigrants taking British Nationals jobs? Because they’re cheap? I employ people in my role, the only people who accept shit pay are immigrants but it’s false economy. They don’t understand, I spend all my time repeatedly micro managing them, it’s draining. Why should British people work for a derisory wage? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 21:00:27 GMT
That’s right, I “don’t do stats” stats are always skewed in favour of the narrative the media try to portray. I use my eyes and ears because what I really care about is what’s happening around me. I believe during Covid homeless people generally set up camp sites wherever they could with limited spaces at the much vaunted “Macari Centre”. Now though, homelessness has gone through the roof thanks to locking down the country for, in truth, absolutely no reason whatsoever. People were made redundant as a result of lockdowns with limited hope of finding new employment thanks to an ever growing influx of economic immigrants who will take jobs regardless of pay and conditions. Leaving British nationals who’ve paid into the system since day one out on their arses However everything else tells us there is a labour shortage. I thought Covid left the workforce depleted due to EU nationals going home and not returning and 50 pluses deciding the workforce was not for them? Brexiteers tell me there has never been a better time to get a new job than now (ask Mr Coke). Meanwhile the Home Office is processing asylum apllicants st a rste of 4% a year - until their application is accepted they can't work. Weatherspoons - for example - has been pleading for workers How therefore are immigrants taking British Nationals jobs? It’s just what his eyes and ears are telling him apparently. You’re spot on of course…. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 21:01:34 GMT
I disagree, homelessness has rocketed since mid 2020 as have knife crime, robbery, burglary, rape. I wonder why that is Homelessness has increased since the pandemic, but the biggest rise in homelessness was between 2010 and 2017. Spit it out are you blaming knife crime, robbery, burglary and rape on immigrants? Not all of course but yeh, they play a big part in it |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2022 21:01:45 GMT
However everything else tells us there is a labour shortage. I thought Covid left the workforce depleted due to EU nationals going home and not returning and 50 pluses deciding the workforce was not for them? Brexiteers tell me there has never been a better time to get a new job than now (ask Mr Coke). Meanwhile the Home Office is processing asylum apllicants st a rste of 4% a year - until their application is accepted they can't work. Weatherspoons - for example - has been pleading for workers How therefore are immigrants taking British Nationals jobs? Because they’re cheap? I employ people in my role, the only people who accept shit pay are immigrants but it’s false economy. They don’t understand, I spend all my time repeatedly micro managing them, it’s draining. Why should British people work for a derisory wage? Sounds like your company has an unsustainable business model. Well done for admitting your recruit staff on shit pay to work for you though……. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 21:02:28 GMT
However everything else tells us there is a labour shortage. I thought Covid left the workforce depleted due to EU nationals going home and not returning and 50 pluses deciding the workforce was not for them? Brexiteers tell me there has never been a better time to get a new job than now (ask Mr Coke). Meanwhile the Home Office is processing asylum apllicants st a rste of 4% a year - until their application is accepted they can't work. Weatherspoons - for example - has been pleading for workers How therefore are immigrants taking British Nationals jobs? It’s just what his eyes and ears are telling him apparently. You’re spot on of course…. You don’t live in Stoke, you’ve got no idea. No matter what voluntary work you claim to do |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2022 21:04:33 GMT
Because they’re cheap? I employ people in my role, the only people who accept shit pay are immigrants but it’s false economy. They don’t understand, I spend all my time repeatedly micro managing them, it’s draining. Why should British people work for a derisory wage? Sounds like your company has an unsustainable business model. Well done for admitting your recruit staff on shit pay to work for you though……. I don’t now. I’ve convinced them of the error of their ways😉 |
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