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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 19, 2022 15:59:32 GMT
I think it is entirely self evident from a set of behaviours If a person continuously posts a set of falsehoods at a particular person or grouping and continues to do so after being advised to the contrary then its safe to assume that person has little interest in the truth other to post their own version of it to show bias towards that person or grouping It comes from the abridged Maxim "if it walks like a Duck, talks like a Duck, it probably is a Duck" Character Is quite different to behaviour which is where you may be confused www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-character-and-behaviorgrouping - where? The only person to mention Kaba’s colour is you. The only grouping was that he was part of a drill group. Factual. Person - Yep perhaps some of what was said was a little off the mark factually in relation to him carrying a fake firearm rather than a real one and him being part of a drill group some of whom were linked to and sentenced to prison for running county lines I’ve acknowledged that but my criticism has nothing to do with Mr Kaba’s colour but a lifestyle that he chose. Fact he did serve 4 years in prison at the age of 19. So to conclude read my detailed explanation above and you might realise this has nothing to do with colour only in your eyes and that it’s all about the medias judgement of the police officer before the investigations being complete and some of the wording being used. One for you We only see what we want to see; we only hear what we want to hear. Our belief system is just like a mirror that only shows us what we believe. Don Miguel Ruiz |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 19, 2022 16:53:39 GMT
Fair play to the police for protecting us against these violent wannabe gangsters.
# we support the boys in blue
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Post by wannabee on Sept 19, 2022 18:45:00 GMT
I think it is entirely self evident from a set of behaviours If a person continuously posts a set of falsehoods at a particular person or grouping and continues to do so after being advised to the contrary then its safe to assume that person has little interest in the truth other to post their own version of it to show bias towards that person or grouping It comes from the abridged Maxim "if it walks like a Duck, talks like a Duck, it probably is a Duck" Character Is quite different to behaviour which is where you may be confused www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-character-and-behaviorgrouping - where? The only person to mention Kaba’s colour is you where, when ? Please provide a link. The only person to mention colour was you when you made the disingenuous comment you very completely colour blind when it came to Kaba You then went on to speculate about the skin colour of the Police Officer.. The only grouping was that he was part of a drill group. Factual. Yes but you have associated Drill with criminality This particular Drill Group won a MOBO Another Drill Artist Skepta refuse an honour from The QueenPerson - Yep perhaps some of what was said was a little off the mark factually in relation to him carrying a fake firearm rather than a real one and him being part of a drill group some of whom were linked to and sentenced to prison for running county lines I’ve acknowledged that but my criticism has nothing to do with Mr Kaba’s colour but a lifestyle that he chose. Fact he did serve 4 years in prison at the age of 19. He barely had time to have any style To use a current example Alex Hales was banned from England Cricket Squad having failed two Drug Test. He has just returned to the squad having been left out for almost 3 1/2 years slightly longer than Kaba was imprisoned Were all Hales's Teammates implicated by Association of course not that would be ludicrous Hales served his period of rehabilitation and I glad he's back in the Squad. Kaba also served his sentence having just been released from Prison who's to say what he may have gone on to do with his life.So to conclude read my detailed explanation above and you might realise this has nothing to do with colour only in your eyes and that it’s all about the medias judgement of the police officer before the investigations being complete and some of the wording being used. I can only assume your back to Social Media again as I personally have seen no such negative judgement of the Police Officer One for you We only see what we want to see; we only hear what we want to hear. Our belief system is just like a mirror that only shows us what we believe. Don Miguel Ruiz Thank you for sharing although I'm surprised you would be a Devotee of Ruiz who preaches Neoshamanism which includes the injestion of Entheogens. To each there own I guess
My beliefs could be best summed up in the John Lennon son God. Basically belive in yourself and your family
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 19, 2022 19:16:19 GMT
grouping - where? The only person to mention Kaba’s colour is you where, when ? Please provide a link. The only person to mention colour was you when you made the disingenuous comment you very completely colour blind when it came to Kaba You then went on to speculate about the skin colour of the Police Officer.By making the comment “Now your Racist Prejudice is just shining through as you have no evidence to support your further Libelous Statement.” You made the issue into an issue about colour despite it not being mentioned prior to then. . The only grouping was that he was part of a drill group. Factual. Yes but you have associated Drill with criminality This particular Drill Group won a MOBO Another Drill Artist Skepta refuse an honour from The QueenMaybe they did but have you seen the video and heard the lyrics. Definition of drill - UK drill is a subgenre of drill music and road rap that originated in the South London district of Brixton from 2012 onwards. Initially borrowing heavily from the style of Chicago drill music before creating its own unique sound, UK drill artists often rap about violent and hedonistic criminal lifestyles. Skepta is a very mainstream side to drill. There’s also a more disturbing side to drill music. www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/attempted-murder-accused-rapped-shooting-24353781.ampPerson - Yep perhaps some of what was said was a little off the mark factually in relation to him carrying a fake firearm rather than a real one and him being part of a drill group some of whom were linked to and sentenced to prison for running county lines I’ve acknowledged that but my criticism has nothing to do with Mr Kaba’s colour but a lifestyle that he chose. Fact he did serve 4 years in prison at the age of 19. He barely had time to have any style To use a current example Alex Hales was banned from England Cricket Squad having failed two Drug Test. He has just returned to the squad having been left out for almost 3 1/2 years slightly longer than Kaba was imprisoned Were all Hales's Teammates implicated by Association of course not that would be ludicrous Hales served his period of rehabilitation and I glad he's back in the Squad. Kaba also served his sentence having just been released from Prison who's to say what he may have gone on to do with his life.Everyone deserves a second chance though I think comparing failing a drugs test and carrying an imitation firearm are vastly different. I guess time will tell as to why Mr kaba was driving a car not registered to him but that’s just speculation. So to conclude read my detailed explanation above and you might realise this has nothing to do with colour only in your eyes and that it’s all about the medias judgement of the police officer before the investigations being complete and some of the wording being used. I can only assume your back to Social Media again as I personally have seen no such negative judgement of the Police Officer amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/17/protest-uk-met-police-killing-black-chris-kabatake your pick |
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Post by wannabee on Sept 19, 2022 21:44:06 GMT
I'm sorry if your going to quote No-mark's like Lillz, Scarcity News and London Anti-Fascist Assembly, whomever they may be, as credible sources it's time for me to discontinue the exchange
Your quite welcome to the last word. Better yet have a conversation with your fan boy Audlem where you can both speak into a Vacuum Chamber
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 19, 2022 21:59:22 GMT
I'm sorry if your going to quote No-mark's like Lillz, Scarcity News and London Anti-Fascist Assembly, whomever they may be, as credible sources it's time for me to discontinue the exchange Your quite welcome to the last word. Better yet have a conversation with your fan boy Audlem where you can both speak into a Vacuum Chamber I think your missing the Independent and the Guardian links but fair enough. I’ve enjoyed our discussion bar the odd salty comments and wild accusations  Let’s wait to see what happens with the investigation it could be an interesting few months ahead. |
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Post by stuammo on Sept 19, 2022 22:35:18 GMT
Below is an actual account in the Evening Standard from an eye witness. Maybe puts some perspective on what happened and the reason for the use of firearms.
But a witness said that he had seen the man trying to drive his Audi at police after his vehicle was boxed in by three police cars in an attempt to stop and arrest him.
“A car was chased into our road and there was a police helicopter overhead. There was a clang when two of the vehicles smashed into each other. One was a police car and the other of the guy being chased.
“Armed police jumped out and were shouting at the man ‘get out of the car’. It was at least a dozen times.”
He added: “The guy in the car had a lot of opportunities to stop but he refused. He then started driving forward towards a police car and smashed into it then reversed, he just wouldn’t stop the vehicle. I heard one shot.
“From what I could see he could have killed one of the officers with his car. I don’t understand why he didn’t stop.
“He was trying to ram his way out and could have easily killed a policeman. He was using his car as a weapon.”
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 21, 2022 20:15:55 GMT
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Post by stuammo on Sept 21, 2022 20:53:41 GMT
And after seeing it have decided to take a break from it all. Maybe what they have seen isn’t quite what they wanted to see |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 21, 2022 21:28:13 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now.
Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc.
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Post by knype on Sept 22, 2022 7:17:38 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now. Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc. Totally agree, including all eye witness statements, this was once again used for political points scoring and to incite racial tension |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 22, 2022 16:26:15 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now. Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc. Totally agree, including all eye witness statements, this was once again used for political points scoring and to incite racial tension It’ll be interesting to see how much press attention the case will continue to get if it’s identified that the officer did act lawfully I’d imagine very little. |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 16:29:03 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now. Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc. You think they should remain front and central for the preposterous 9 months the Met say its going to take the investigation to take place? |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 22, 2022 16:32:30 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now. Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc. They probably saw him for the not so 'innocent' that he was which will upset the leftys no end as they won't have an excuse to race bait over it |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 22, 2022 17:02:37 GMT
It’s an interesting reaction bearing in mind comments made before. Interesting that the family want press to go through their solicitors now. Once the investigations complete I think it’s important that everything is published from start to finish not just the final seconds but the reason as to why the vehicle was flagged up etc. You think they should remain front and central for the preposterous 9 months the Met say its going to take the investigation to take place? I think they would have done yes if the CCTV showed the “murder” that some on social media and protests were calling it. The viewing of the CCTV certainly seems to have taken the steam out of things. Time will tell but I’d say there response says a lot but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 22, 2022 17:04:05 GMT
You think they should remain front and central for the preposterous 9 months the Met say its going to take the investigation to take place? I think they would have done yes if the CCTV showed the “murder” that some on social media and protests were calling it. The viewing of the CCTV certainly seems to have taken the steam out of things. Time will tell but I’d say there response says a lot but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Spot on as usual on these matters Cobs |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 17:06:51 GMT
You think they should remain front and central for the preposterous 9 months the Met say its going to take the investigation to take place? I think they would have done yes if the CCTV showed the “murder” that some on social media and protests were calling it. The viewing of the CCTV certainly seems to have taken the steam out of things. Time will tell but I’d say there response says a lot but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Seems like you're already drawing your conclusions. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 22, 2022 17:08:09 GMT
I think they would have done yes if the CCTV showed the “murder” that some on social media and protests were calling it. The viewing of the CCTV certainly seems to have taken the steam out of things. Time will tell but I’d say there response says a lot but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Seems like you're already drawing your conclusions. Sounds like you have and we all know your conclusion would be very different if the 'victim' was white 🙄 |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 22, 2022 17:15:52 GMT
I think they would have done yes if the CCTV showed the “murder” that some on social media and protests were calling it. The viewing of the CCTV certainly seems to have taken the steam out of things. Time will tell but I’d say there response says a lot but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Seems like you're already drawing your conclusions. It’s hard not to when you look at the comments made before and after. I’d say that my assumption is more likely than yours but I’m happy to be proved wrong. I’ll be interested to see what Ms Abbott, Mr Khan, Ms Harmon and Mr Corbyn say “if” it is deemed the officer is found to be blameless and acted appropriately because they’d certainly made there mind up prior to any evidence being seen or heard. An apology to the officer perhaps? |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 17:23:53 GMT
Seems like you're already drawing your conclusions. It’s hard not to when you look at the comments made before and after. I’d say that my assumption is more likely than yours but I’m happy to be proved wrong. I’ll be interested to see what Ms Abbott and Mr Corbyn say “if” it is deemed the officer is found to be blameless because they’d certainly made there mind up. An apology to the officer perhaps? I think it's more likely that as there is a criminal homicide investigation going on, the family have been advised by lawyers to take a step back now rather than anything to do with the footage but we'll see. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 22, 2022 17:26:52 GMT
It’s hard not to when you look at the comments made before and after. I’d say that my assumption is more likely than yours but I’m happy to be proved wrong. I’ll be interested to see what Ms Abbott and Mr Corbyn say “if” it is deemed the officer is found to be blameless because they’d certainly made there mind up. An apology to the officer perhaps? I think it's more likely that as there is a criminal homicide investigation going on, the family have been advised by lawyers to take a step back now rather than anything to do with the footage but we'll see. Well we’ll wait and see |
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Post by knype on Sept 22, 2022 20:02:48 GMT
It’s hard not to when you look at the comments made before and after. I’d say that my assumption is more likely than yours but I’m happy to be proved wrong. I’ll be interested to see what Ms Abbott and Mr Corbyn say “if” it is deemed the officer is found to be blameless because they’d certainly made there mind up. An apology to the officer perhaps? I think it's more likely that as there is a criminal homicide investigation going on, the family have been advised by lawyers to take a step back now rather than anything to do with the footage but we'll see. Not sure I've seen you comment on the innocent girl from Liverpools thread ? |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 20:18:16 GMT
I think it's more likely that as there is a criminal homicide investigation going on, the family have been advised by lawyers to take a step back now rather than anything to do with the footage but we'll see. Not sure I've seen you comment on the innocent girl from Liverpools thread ? What in wide, wide world of fucks and whataboutery has that got to with this thread? You lot are genuinely fucking mental. 😄 While we're at it then, you and the poltroon who liked this quite frankly insane post haven't commented on two of your close colleagues on this messageboard racistly suggesting that a black women in The Royal Family has been altering the shade of her skin or been playing 'blackface', to achieve some sort of sympathy. Whatever conclusions could be drawn by that I wonder?! 😀 |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 22, 2022 20:20:24 GMT
Not sure I've seen you comment on the innocent girl from Liverpools thread ? What in wide, wide world of fucks and whataboutery has that got to with this thread? You lot are genuinely fucking mental. 😄 While we're at it then, you and the poltroon who liked this quite frankly insane post haven't commented on two of your close colleagues on this messageboard racistly suggesting that a black women in The Royal Family has been altering the shade of her skin or been playing 'blackface', to achieve some sort of sympathy. Whatever conclusions could be drawn by that I wonder?! 😀 You only pretend to care when the 'victim's isn't white, that's his point. Disgusting |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 20:22:21 GMT
What in wide, wide world of fucks and whataboutery has that got to with this thread? You lot are genuinely fucking mental. 😄 While we're at it then, you and the poltroon who liked this quite frankly insane post haven't commented on two of your close colleagues on this messageboard racistly suggesting that a black women in The Royal Family has been altering the shade of her skin or been playing 'blackface', to achieve some sort of sympathy. Whatever conclusions could be drawn by that I wonder?! 😀 You only pretend to care when the 'victim's isn't white, that's his point. Disgusting Are you going to apologise for (or more wisely delete) your vile racism on the abolish the monarchy thread, yes or no? Simple question. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 22, 2022 20:28:22 GMT
You only pretend to care when the 'victim's isn't white, that's his point. Disgusting Are you going to apologise for (or more wisely delete) your vile racism on the abolish the monarchy thread, yes or no? Simple question. Find me a comment where I have said anything racist and yes of course. Don’t just look on the monarchy thread though, have a look on all the threads that I've contributed to and if you can find one single racist comment from me I'll not only apologise I'll also vote Labour. ....I'll be waiting 😉 |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 20:32:53 GMT
Are you going to apologise for (or more wisely delete) your vile racism on the abolish the monarchy thread, yes or no? Simple question. Find me a comment where I have said anything racist and yes of course. Don’t just look on the monarchy thread though, have a look on all the threads that I've contributed to and if you can find one single racist comment from me I'll not only apologise I'll also vote Labour. ....I'll be waiting 😉 With Her Maj barely cold, you're suggesting that her black daughter in law plays at 'blackface'. Now I know that in the poisoned chalice of hate that passes for a brain in your head, this might be nothing to you, but it is in fact racist......unless its a form of that oh so important 'respect' only ardent bootlicking Royalists get? |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 22, 2022 20:34:19 GMT
Find me a comment where I have said anything racist and yes of course. Don’t just look on the monarchy thread though, have a look on all the threads that I've contributed to and if you can find one single racist comment from me I'll not only apologise I'll also vote Labour. ....I'll be waiting 😉 With Her Maj barely cold, you're suggesting that her black daughter in law plays at 'blackface'. Now I know that in the poisoned chalice of hate that passes for a brain in your head, this might be nothing to you, but it is in fact racist......unless its a form of that oh so important 'respect' only ardent bootlicking Royalists get? Oh dear 😳 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 22, 2022 20:50:19 GMT
Find me a comment where I have said anything racist and yes of course. Don’t just look on the monarchy thread though, have a look on all the threads that I've contributed to and if you can find one single racist comment from me I'll not only apologise I'll also vote Labour. ....I'll be waiting 😉 With Her Maj barely cold, you're suggesting that her black daughter in law plays at 'blackface'. Now I know that in the poisoned chalice of hate that passes for a brain in your head, this might be nothing to you, but it is in fact racist......unless its a form of that oh so important 'respect' only ardent bootlicking Royalists get? Do you have a fetish for bootlicking? It’s weird |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 22, 2022 20:57:05 GMT
With Her Maj barely cold, you're suggesting that her black daughter in law plays at 'blackface'. Now I know that in the poisoned chalice of hate that passes for a brain in your head, this might be nothing to you, but it is in fact racist......unless its a form of that oh so important 'respect' only ardent bootlicking Royalists get? Do you have a fetish for bootlicking? It’s weird Yeah cause that's the 'weird' thing that is in that post!! 😀 |
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