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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 8, 2021 13:05:08 GMT
If it's so hard he could play for Barcelona and get a nominal fee. Or perhaps play for free. He's got more money than he'll ever need. Agreed. Plus, even if he plays for free, he'll still be raking in millions every year with endorsements/sponsorships/social media etc. etc. anyway. Players at that level are not just earning their annual income from club wages nowadays. Yes. He'd still be earning
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 8, 2021 13:05:38 GMT
Why would he play for free? It’s stupid to suggest that he should. He was willing to take a 50% pay cut to stay. That shows love. Just as we all do, footballers have debts. I’m sure he has things like mortgages that are well within the cost of his salary. Why dip into savings to pay them off? Still, I think he’s a coward for going to PSG (if he does). It’s an easy team to win a league with and be able to say, “look I’ve done it elsewhere also”. But he wouldn't have to play for free. His 50% pay cut was from £500k to £250k per week and was for 5 year. It would still have left him as one of the highest paid players in the world. Hardly put him into the pauper class If he was that desperate to stay at Barcelona I am sure there would have reached a deal on a pitiful £100k per week over say 2 years. i might be wrong, but his basic fee at Barca is 70m a year, then you have sponsorship and image rights on top of that. again, i might be wrong, but i think he said he was happy to go to 35m a year.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 8, 2021 15:12:46 GMT
Some hard views on here personally I think it showed it’s not just about money for him and found that endearing , I remember our very own Jimmy Greenhoff leaving the stadium in tears after he’d been sold to Man Utd , some players do just llovectheir club and for him is been his home and his families hime for all their lives .
He’s a fantastic player , seems inherently decent and I wish him well
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Post by fplstokegeneral on Aug 8, 2021 16:05:40 GMT
Griezmann £850k per week! Dembele £340k per week deal rising to £420k per week after 3 years! Countinho £390k per week!
Messi scores practically 70% of the goals and 50% of the assists. Him going to £250k per week is incredibly reasonable. It’s a job no matter what you think, if you’re the best in your organisation would you accept been on less than those above for what you generate and earn for the company? I highly doubt it. He needs to look after himself. Messi said he’d go lower than 50% but not stated how much - he wanted to say. Some people on here don’t bother to read or acknowledge the situation!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 17:03:19 GMT
Griezmann £850k per week! Dembele £340k per week deal rising to £420k per week after 3 years! Countinho £390k per week! Messi scores practically 70% of the goals and 50% of the assists. Him going to £250k per week is incredibly reasonable. It’s a job no matter what you think, if you’re the best in your organisation would you accept been on less than those above for what you generate and earn for the company? I highly doubt it. He needs to look after himself. Messi said he’d go lower than 50% but not stated how much - he wanted to say. Some people on here don’t bother to read or acknowledge the situation! He's a player I just don't get the furore over, Greizmann.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 8, 2021 17:57:46 GMT
Some hard views on here personally I think it showed it’s not just about money for him and found that endearing , I remember our very own Jimmy Greenhoff leaving the stadium in tears after he’d been sold to Man Utd , some players do just llovectheir club and for him is been his home and his families hime for all their lives . He’s a fantastic player , seems inherently decent and I wish him well This
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Post by santy on Aug 8, 2021 18:09:23 GMT
From what I've been reading, Barcelona haven't yet been able to register Aguero because their wages to turnover ratio is too high. Some places over the last couple of days have said he might be looking at having to leave the club as a result of this.
This also means that if Messi had offered to play for free, because it wasn't sorted before his contract expired they wouldn't have been able to register him either. Coupled with the fact that to prevent financial manipulation new contracts need to be at least 50% of the old contract playing for free was never an option.
They need to trim something like 20% from their existing wage bill before they can register any new signings with the league itself, rather than for playing in competitions.
Barcelona are just in the shit position of either arrogantly thinking everything would be fine or not knowing what the rules are for their league, in terms of wages to turnover and the rules for their country in terms of new contracts vs previous contracts.
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Post by Boothen on Aug 8, 2021 19:11:43 GMT
Barça's problems stem from one thing and one thing only, namely the fact that they are so fucking arrogant and up themselves that they don't think the rules actually apply to them.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2021 19:28:30 GMT
Romano saying 2 year deal with PSG will happen. I personally think he'll go back to Barcelona after, if they haven't been bankrupted that is.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 8, 2021 20:36:28 GMT
Messi has earned enough money out of Barcelona that if he wanted he could stay and play for nothing,
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Post by Nando’s kid on Aug 8, 2021 21:17:09 GMT
Messi has earned enough money out of Barcelona that if he wanted he could stay and play for nothing, He’s not allowed to sign a contract, Barca are in that much debt, that they’d still they are bound by rules that they couldn’t even sign him whilst he earns nothing
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 9, 2021 13:40:53 GMT
Aguero is out injured for 3 months.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 14:37:16 GMT
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Post by sensiblestokie on Aug 9, 2021 15:56:50 GMT
The amount of opinions for people who don’t do a bit of research is staggering. Come on, do better.
Messi couldn’t sign for Barcelona for FREE. Their wage to revenue ratio was 115% with Messi, without Messi it’s still a huge 95%.
La Liga rules state that a club can max out at 70% now, so Messi couldn’t even be re-signed for FREE and not get paid a penny.
Leo wanted to stay, if possible I wouldn’t be surprised if he would for free, as you can see from the presser he didn’t want to leave.
How Barca have managed to pay such high wages for mediocre players and not be able to sign the best player in the world even though he was willing is nothing short of criminal on their part.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 9, 2021 16:10:37 GMT
The amount of opinions for people who don’t do a bit of research is staggering. Come on, do better. Messi couldn’t sign for Barcelona for FREE. Their wage to revenue ratio was 115% with Messi, without Messi it’s still a huge 95%. La Liga rules state that a club can max out at 70% now, so Messi couldn’t even be re-signed for FREE and not get paid a penny. I'm sure you're right but I don't understand the reasoning here, why would that mean he couldn't play for free? Oh is it because the club aren't allowed to have players sign contracts when they're over the wage threshold?
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Post by sensiblestokie on Aug 9, 2021 16:23:22 GMT
The amount of opinions for people who don’t do a bit of research is staggering. Come on, do better. Messi couldn’t sign for Barcelona for FREE. Their wage to revenue ratio was 115% with Messi, without Messi it’s still a huge 95%. La Liga rules state that a club can max out at 70% now, so Messi couldn’t even be re-signed for FREE and not get paid a penny. I'm sure you're right but I don't understand the reasoning here, why would that mean he couldn't play for free? Oh is it because the club aren't allowed to have players sign contracts when they're over the wage threshold? Because Barca are now unable to register players regardless as they are well well above the revenue to wage ratio.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 9, 2021 16:47:02 GMT
I'm sure you're right but I don't understand the reasoning here, why would that mean he couldn't play for free? Oh is it because the club aren't allowed to have players sign contracts when they're over the wage threshold? Because Barca are now unable to register players regardless as they are well well above the revenue to wage ratio. Right but you mean they're just not allowed to because of league rules or something? Because obviously a player playing for free wouldn't affect that ratio. Sorry I know I could just look this up
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Post by sensiblestokie on Aug 9, 2021 16:53:20 GMT
Because Barca are now unable to register players regardless as they are well well above the revenue to wage ratio. Right but you mean they're just not allowed to because of league rules or something? Because obviously a player playing for free wouldn't affect that ratio. Sorry I know I could just look this up Yes that’s why. When you’re above this threshold in La Liga it means you cannot register players regardless of their wage. This is what Barca were hoping the league would relax their rules for to keep their crown jewel in the league. I can’t help but think it would be worth it to keep him. But the rules are the rules.
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Post by lordb on Aug 9, 2021 17:06:33 GMT
Right but you mean they're just not allowed to because of league rules or something? Because obviously a player playing for free wouldn't affect that ratio. Sorry I know I could just look this up Yes that’s why. When you’re above this threshold in La Liga it means you cannot register players regardless of their wage. This is what Barca were hoping the league would relax their rules for to keep their crown jewel in the league. I can’t help but think it would be worth it to keep him. But the rules are the rules. In the past Barcelona and more especially Real Madrid have found rules bent or broken when they haven't for other clubs After the ESL debacle perhaps La Liga are adopting a fuck you attitude. If so about time.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 9, 2021 17:56:53 GMT
Yes that’s why. When you’re above this threshold in La Liga it means you cannot register players regardless of their wage. This is what Barca were hoping the league would relax their rules for to keep their crown jewel in the league. I can’t help but think it would be worth it to keep him. But the rules are the rules. In the past Barcelona and more especially Real Madrid have found rules bent or broken when they haven't for other clubs After the ESL debacle perhaps La Liga are adopting a fuck you attitude. If so about time. It’s not even after the ESL debacle for them is it? They’ve stuck in there with Real and Juve so a real power play at hand and La Liga are probably fed up with both of them on the basis of your first point about the rule bending! Stick it to them!
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 9, 2021 18:10:22 GMT
From what I've been reading, Barcelona haven't yet been able to register Aguero because their wages to turnover ratio is too high. Some places over the last couple of days have said he might be looking at having to leave the club as a result of this. This also means that if Messi had offered to play for free, because it wasn't sorted before his contract expired they wouldn't have been able to register him either. Coupled with the fact that to prevent financial manipulation new contracts need to be at least 50% of the old contract playing for free was never an option. They need to trim something like 20% from their existing wage bill before they can register any new signings with the league itself, rather than for playing in competitions. Barcelona are just in the shit position of either arrogantly thinking everything would be fine or not knowing what the rules are for their league, in terms of wages to turnover and the rules for their country in terms of new contracts vs previous contracts. Yes they were talking about it on talksport, other clubs know they are fucked so as well as free transfers for the likes of Greizman, Coutinho they are wanted them to pay some of their wages before they take them, barca refused so they are stuck with them.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 9, 2021 20:33:29 GMT
These financial rules were known about and voted on and introduced in 2013. 8 years ago. And they've carried on regardless. They just seemed to think they would get out of it because of who tbey are.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 10, 2021 12:05:05 GMT
PSG easy option
All about cash
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Post by jstoke7 on Aug 10, 2021 12:21:50 GMT
He cannot play for Barcelona for free. La Liga rules means a contract cannot be renewed at less that 50% of the original contract.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 10, 2021 12:22:18 GMT
PSG easy option All about cash Mercenary
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 10, 2021 12:28:21 GMT
I loved Messi until about an hour ago
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 10, 2021 12:29:56 GMT
At his age and with his success, I’d like to think that if I was in that position I’d go for an unfancied team and try to bring them silverware. Villa, Everton for example over here. That would be some legacy. But I suppose we don’t know the finer ins and outs, or how his mind works, so it’s easy to judge.
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Post by moon on Aug 10, 2021 12:37:08 GMT
PSG easy option All about cash I think it's also about his reputation too, he's left it a bit late in his career to be starting again in another country. The French league playing for PSG is a much easier option than battling it away in the Premier League whichever side he was to join.
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Post by superjw on Aug 10, 2021 13:42:52 GMT
PSG easy option All about cash For sure, as well as (with respect) an easier league to play in. He is, after all, towards the back end of his career and pretty sure he would want to still be at the top of the game, even in France.
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 10, 2021 14:44:56 GMT
Disappointing really.
I would have liked to have seen him at proper club in a tough league.
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