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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 2, 2020 20:36:08 GMT
He probably did but that’s not the issue. I like other fans would like to see Coates turn this around but with his son in charge it is never going to happen as he is not going to get rid of him or Scholes. Coates sr promised us household changes when we got relegated from the prem and it didn’t happen. Nothings going to change unfortunately while the Coates are in charge and I am not being disrespectful just honest. We haven’t had a mediocre 10 seasons in the prem at all for a club like ours it was incredible. We keep buying shit is mostly to blame but someone upstairs is agreeing to the shit we are buying. Good, imagine if it came out Scholes or whoever said no to a player or two that turned out to be quality, people would be going nuts and rightfully so, you can't have those decisions in the hands of people that are glorified pen pushers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 20:38:32 GMT
The amount of different fans I’ve spoke to over the last few months etc and they all say how lucky stoke are to have owners like ours! Fans of the club!! Not just fans but fans with huge pockets that they have delved into time and time again.
There is a problem somewhere We can all agree, but to ask Coates to sell?? Give over ffs.
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Post by loosestools on Jul 2, 2020 20:41:53 GMT
Leave the Coates family alone for goodness sake.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 2, 2020 20:47:25 GMT
He probably did but that’s not the issue. I like other fans would like to see Coates turn this around but with his son in charge it is never going to happen as he is not going to get rid of him or Scholes. Coates sr promised us household changes when we got relegated from the prem and it didn’t happen. Nothings going to change unfortunately while the Coates are in charge and I am not being disrespectful just honest. We haven’t had a mediocre 10 seasons in the prem at all for a club like ours it was incredible. We keep buying shit is mostly to blame but someone upstairs is agreeing to the shit we are buying. Good, imagine if it came out Scholes or whoever said no to a player or two that turned out to be quality, people would be going nuts and rightfully so, you can't have those decitions in the hands of people that are glorified pen pushers. True. Maybe it’s more the decisions they make to appoint new managers which then leads to them buying shit. They obviously don’t know a thing about football. Let’s be honest anybody who knows a bit about football knew Nathan jones was buying shit and it shouldn’t be a shock to any stoke fans why we are where we are.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 2, 2020 20:49:42 GMT
The amount of different fans I’ve spoke to over the last few months etc and they all say how lucky stoke are to have owners like ours! Fans of the club!! Not just fans but fans with huge pockets that they have delved into time and time again. There is a problem somewhere We can all agree, but to ask Coates to sell?? Give over ffs. No point having huge pockets if they don’t know what to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 20:52:54 GMT
The amount of different fans I’ve spoke to over the last few months etc and they all say how lucky stoke are to have owners like ours! Fans of the club!! Not just fans but fans with huge pockets that they have delved into time and time again. There is a problem somewhere We can all agree, but to ask Coates to sell?? Give over ffs. No point having huge pockets if they don’t know what to do with it. Would you sell then? I would love to know how people think we would improve/benefit from Coates selling up
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Post by loosestools on Jul 2, 2020 20:54:44 GMT
No point having huge pockets if they don’t know what to do with it. Would you sell then? I would love to know how people think we would improve/benefit from Coates selling up There would be no benefit. Who would they sell it to - Wright Pies?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 2, 2020 20:57:12 GMT
No point having huge pockets if they don’t know what to do with it. Would you sell then? I would love to know how people think we would improve/benefit from Coates selling up No I wouldn’t sell just yet I would love it for Peter to get his finger out and get us back on track but I think he’s not ruthless enough he’s comes across as too nice
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 20:59:02 GMT
I hardly post on here an have been a stoke fan since the 90’s when stoke went too the Isle of Man for pre season friendlys when Lou was in charge.. An now after all the ups an down we have had as a club.. Icelandic takeover.. boskamp.. cotterill.. an the better times with Tony in the prem an Hughes till it all went downhill.. we have us stoke fans wanting peter Coates too sell the club. We’ll hang on here an think about the situation an the money Peter has put into the situation even when he wasn’t a billionaire.. he’s a stokie through an through an do u think he would pay this idiots 30 grand a week in the championship if he wasn’t.. the Coates family want the best for the club.. they don’t want this situation.. suppose idiots on here would be happy with a Chinese consortium not giving a fuck about stoke an end up in administration like Wigan.. football doesn’t make a profit anymore unless your in the prem.. people need too get a grip.. we have a family willing too give any sort of money too try an sort us out.. all these get the Coates out idiots.. would u lose 50 million a year plus on footballers wages which will happen after the parachute payments an not get nothing back!! I think the Coates family are the only people in the world that will give this sort of money too the club they love an own.. they are in a lucky situation where they can blow 50 million.. 100 million a year.. an still carry on the next season an do the same again.. if u want Coates out no matter how many mistake the family has made.. u live in absolute cuckoo land.. Who else would keep a business going paying 30 lads 30 grand a week each.. would you
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 2, 2020 21:00:10 GMT
Would you sell then? I would love to know how people think we would improve/benefit from Coates selling up There would be no benefit. Who would they sell it to - Wright Pies? Tbf it could go 2 ways though couldn’t it. Look at wolves and Leeds they haven’t looked back but it would be our luck it would go tits up
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Post by loosestools on Jul 2, 2020 21:03:54 GMT
There would be no benefit. Who would they sell it to - Wright Pies? Tbf it could go 2 ways though couldn’t it. Look at wolves and Leeds they haven’t looked back but it would be our luck it would go tits up Would you class us as 'Sleeping Giants'? We are a very bad brand at present, almost a pariah.
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Post by datguy on Jul 2, 2020 21:04:58 GMT
I'm seeing people say stuff like this quite a lot.
We're lucky to have owners that are Stoke through and through and also billionaires. But that doesn't mean they escape any blame whatsoever.
Doesn't it make the situation we are in even more daft?
All the other teams down here are strapped for cash. Yet Stoke and their billionaire fan owners are the biggest joke of the lot.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:05:54 GMT
So what do u think would happen if Coates sold the club
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:07:00 GMT
So what do u think would happen if Coates sold the club We'd have new owners.
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Post by loosestools on Jul 2, 2020 21:08:27 GMT
Shit bin
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 2, 2020 21:09:35 GMT
Tbf it could go 2 ways though couldn’t it. Look at wolves and Leeds they haven’t looked back but it would be our luck it would go tits up Would you class us as 'Sleeping Giants'? We are a very bad brand at present, almost a pariah. No more like sleeping midgets but 2 seasons ago I would have said we was as big a club as Leeds and wolves. Don’t get me wrong Leeds are sleeping faints but they had been out of the top flight for so long I thought we were on a par
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Post by datguy on Jul 2, 2020 21:11:17 GMT
So what do u think would happen if Coates sold the club I'm not saying they need to sell the club. But they desperately need to review how they run it. The very top of the club is rotten. Being billionaires doesn't excuse that. It makes it worse.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:17:07 GMT
So we got new owners.. then what
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:17:59 GMT
So we got new owners.. then what then they run the club.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:19:53 GMT
We are bad but look at Leeds.. how many managers have they gone through.. look how long it’s took them too get back up
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:20:32 GMT
So we got new owners.. then what then they run the club. Would they pump the same money in
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Post by datguy on Jul 2, 2020 21:23:04 GMT
We are bad but look at Leeds.. how many managers have they gone through.. look how long it’s took them too get back up The manager isn't the problem mate. And Leeds is a poor example. They've changed owners and seemingly do it the right way now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 21:25:00 GMT
There would be no benefit. Who would they sell it to - Wright Pies? Tbf it could go 2 ways though couldn’t it. Look at wolves and Leeds they haven’t looked back but it would be our luck it would go tits up Took Wolves a few bashes to get it right, as for Leeds
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:25:27 GMT
We are bad but look at Leeds.. how many managers have they gone through.. look how long it’s took them too get back up The manager isn't the problem mate. And Leeds is a poor example. They've changed owners and seemingly do it the right way now. They have only done it the right way cause they dropped on the right manager
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 2, 2020 21:26:34 GMT
Good, imagine if it came out Scholes or whoever said no to a player or two that turned out to be quality, people would be going nuts and rightfully so, you can't have those decitions in the hands of people that are glorified pen pushers. True. Maybe it’s more the decisions they make to appoint new managers which then leads to them buying shit. They obviously don’t know a thing about football. Let’s be honest anybody who knows a bit about football knew Nathan jones was buying shit and it shouldn’t be a shock to any stoke fans why we are where we are. Chosing managers isn't that easy though there's always a lot of risk, we've just been unfortunate that we're having a bad run of them. Re Jones, I don't think he had much of a choice tbh, he was hugely limited by the previous overspend, he had a very small group of players to chose from, I'm not particually sticking up for him but I doubt many of them would have been on his list if he had money to spend.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:30:01 GMT
We are bad but look at Leeds.. how many managers have they gone through.. look how long it’s took them too get back up The manager isn't the problem mate. And Leeds is a poor example. They've changed owners and seemingly do it the right way now. they have only done it the right way cause they chose the right manager.. if we chose beisla we would play like that.. an would prob be a better version as we have money too but any player we want
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Post by mowlee on Jul 2, 2020 21:31:30 GMT
The manager isn't the problem mate. And Leeds is a poor example. They've changed owners and seemingly do it the right way now. they have only done it the right way cause they chose the right manager.. if we chose beisla we would play like that.. an would prob be a better version as we have money too but any player we want stoke have money too burn.. Leeds don’t.. they just dropped on the right manager
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 2, 2020 21:32:03 GMT
True. Maybe it’s more the decisions they make to appoint new managers which then leads to them buying shit. They obviously don’t know a thing about football. Let’s be honest anybody who knows a bit about football knew Nathan jones was buying shit and it shouldn’t be a shock to any stoke fans why we are where we are. Chosing managers isn't that easy though there's always a lot of risk, we've just been unfortunate that we're having a bad run of them. Re Jones, I don't think he had much of a choice tbh, he was hugely limited by the previous overspend, he had a very small group of players to chose from, I'm not particually sticking up for him but I doubt many of them would have been on his list if he had money to spend. It isn't easy when you know nothing about football and are lazy arsed about recruiting one.
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Post by datguy on Jul 2, 2020 21:35:12 GMT
The manager isn't the problem mate. And Leeds is a poor example. They've changed owners and seemingly do it the right way now. they have only done it the right way cause they chose the right manager.. if we chose beisla we would play like that.. an would prob be a better version as we have money too but any player we want Top to bottom they've changed. Our problem has nothing to do with the manager or the football played. It's those that constantly seem to be making poor decisions.
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Post by datguy on Jul 2, 2020 21:36:20 GMT
they have only done it the right way cause they chose the right manager.. if we chose beisla we would play like that.. an would prob be a better version as we have money too but any player we want stoke have money too burn.. Leeds don’t.. they just dropped on the right manager Do we? Why are our current LB choices Bruno Martins Indi and Stephen Ward? Like I said... having billionaire owners makes our situation more laughable.
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