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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 6:13:08 GMT
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Post by EccyStokie on Sept 16, 2020 6:13:08 GMT
When’s his contract run out? If not next year and he can find his scoring boots over there this could work out good for us no? Hasn’t done palace any harm with Sorloth.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2020 7:52:04 GMT
"I know Benik Afobe. He's a very fast, strong footballer capable of doing business in this league - and he's a footballer our players will enjoy playing with"
Good luck with that, Eddie....
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 16, 2020 7:59:15 GMT
Benik's "pace" has been a total myth hasn't it? Even before his injury I found him incredibly once paced. That's before you even begin to discuss his "football skills" which are non existent.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2020 8:01:26 GMT
Benik's "pace" has been a total myth hasn't it? Even before his injury I found him incredibly once paced. That's before you even begin to discuss his "football skills" which are non existent. Seen milk turn quicker🙄
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 8:08:24 GMT
Post by nott1 on Sept 16, 2020 8:08:24 GMT
When’s his contract run out? If not next year and he can find his scoring boots over there this could work out good for us no? Hasn’t done palace any harm with Sorloth. That would be a miracle!
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 16, 2020 8:36:23 GMT
Benik's "pace" has been a total myth hasn't it? Even before his injury I found him incredibly once paced. That's before you even begin to discuss his "football skills" which are non existent. He always seemed slow mentally. In the recent cup game against Blackpool, the ball was bouncing around in the defence. Benik seemed so slow to latch onto it, eventually his brain caught up but by that time the 3rd division defender had snuffed out the danger. You'd expect a good striker to be on it in a flash and then heading for goal. If it's a 3rd division defender, then you know you've got the wrong man for the job.
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 14:14:20 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2020 14:14:20 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 16, 2020 14:18:32 GMT
He goes under the radar a little bit this transfer is up there with Wimmer, Saido & Imbula. To think we spent £12m on him as a championship club is just fucking mental. He’s score double figures in this league ONCE
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 14:20:02 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2020 14:20:02 GMT
Who’d have thought it O’Neill gives his blessing🤔
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 14:59:46 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 16, 2020 14:59:46 GMT
Benik's "pace" has been a total myth hasn't it? Even before his injury I found him incredibly once paced. That's before you even begin to discuss his "football skills" which are non existent. The injury last season was his second ACL of his career. He’s never looked lightning here and can’t imagine he’s got any quicker after that... Can’t see him doing that well later into his career as his game is quite reliant on getting on the end of through balls (definitely not one to create his own changes and he’s poor in the air).
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 15:15:50 GMT
He goes under the radar a little bit this transfer is up there with Wimmer, Saido & Imbula. To think we spent £12m on him as a championship club is just fucking mental. He’s score double figures in this league ONCE Vokes is not far behind in the clusterfuck transfer dealings overseen by Scholes.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 16, 2020 15:59:41 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 16, 2020 16:07:08 GMT
In layman's terms ive had a good look at him and nah not for me
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 16:25:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:25:34 GMT
If he has really signed off on it then his comments only a few weeks ago seem really odd now. He's gone from saying that last years loan isn't something he'd have done, because of his quality in the Championship to saying he's not fit for purpose.
A very strange affair.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 16, 2020 16:32:26 GMT
If he has really signed off on it then his comments only a few weeks ago seem really odd now. He's gone from saying that last years loan isn't something he'd have done, because of his quality in the Championship to saying he's not fit for purpose. A very strange affair. I don't find it odd at all. People change their opinions all the time as situations change. Surely it's better to have a manager who changes his opinion on the present circumstances rather than one who nails his colours to the mast and is pig headed.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 16, 2020 16:35:45 GMT
If he has really signed off on it then his comments only a few weeks ago seem really odd now. He's gone from saying that last years loan isn't something he'd have done, because of his quality in the Championship to saying he's not fit for purpose. A very strange affair. Maybe looking up close he can see things he was unaware of
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 16:41:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:41:08 GMT
If he has really signed off on it then his comments only a few weeks ago seem really odd now. He's gone from saying that last years loan isn't something he'd have done, because of his quality in the Championship to saying he's not fit for purpose. A very strange affair. I don't find it odd at all. People change their opinions all the time as situations change. Surely it's better to have a manager who changes his opinion on the present circumstances rather than one who nails his colours to the mast and is pig headed. There's a middle ground in there isn't there? For a bloke who is so level headed, this one just doesn't make sense. He absolutely gushed over him and pretty much openly questioned the professional judgement of his predecessor, before performing a 180 degree u turn and doing exactly the same as he did. All in the space of a month. I agree you don't want a pig headed manager but that's not O'Neill anyway and not what I was saying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:47:54 GMT
I don't find it odd at all. People change their opinions all the time as situations change. Surely it's better to have a manager who changes his opinion on the present circumstances rather than one who nails his colours to the mast and is pig headed. There's a middle ground in there isn't there? For a bloke who is so level headed, this one just doesn't make sense. He absolutely gushed over him and pretty much openly questioned the professional judgement of his predecessor, before performing a 180 degree u turn and doing exactly the same as he did. All in the space of a month. I agree you don't want a pig headed manager but that's not O'Neill anyway and not what I was saying. He's tried to give Afobe the extra motivation to grab a 2nd chance and prove his worth by bigging him up, and not particularly liked what he's seen thereafter. That's my take on it anyway.....
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 16, 2020 17:49:15 GMT
Am I Pete Smith? That's the question
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 18:53:09 GMT
Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 16, 2020 18:53:09 GMT
He goes under the radar a little bit this transfer is up there with Wimmer, Saido & Imbula. To think we spent £12m on him as a championship club is just fucking mental. He’s score double figures in this league ONCE Vokes is not far behind in the clusterfuck transfer dealings overseen by Scholes. The list is fucking endless, as are the impact on the club. We've at least another 2 seasons until we can properly trim the squad and spend money again.
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 16, 2020 19:04:37 GMT
There's a middle ground in there isn't there? For a bloke who is so level headed, this one just doesn't make sense. He absolutely gushed over him and pretty much openly questioned the professional judgement of his predecessor, before performing a 180 degree u turn and doing exactly the same as he did. All in the space of a month. I agree you don't want a pig headed manager but that's not O'Neill anyway and not what I was saying. He's tried to give Afobe the extra motivation to grab a 2nd chance and prove his worth by bigging him up, and not particularly liked what he's seen thereafter. That's my take on it anyway..... Sometimes you have to be man enough to admit that you made a mistake. Stubbornness ultimately did our previous two managers in so I find it quite refreshing that MON can admit he got it wrong on Afobe after taking a close look at him in pre season.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2020 19:12:23 GMT
To be honest Afobe should have seen Vokes and thought secretly ‘I’m better’ and put the graft in knowing the prize is in sight. However as we know some people just can’t be arsed or want other things.
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Sept 16, 2020 19:12:53 GMT
MON gave him a chance and saw what was painfully apparent in the first game of last season, the Benik Afobe who looked decent for a season or two at Wolves is long gone.
The fact he’s even considering going Turkey when he had an obviously competent manager seemingly so keen to try and get him game time in English football tells me he knows it too. He’s obviously given up on ever playing in the premier league and wants to take advantage of the lower tax rate on offer while he still has some kind of reputation that allows the move.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2020 19:18:52 GMT
MON gave him a chance and saw what was painfully apparent in the first game of last season, the Benik Afobe who looked decent for a season or two at Wolves is long gone. The fact he’s even considering going Turkey when he had an obviously competent manager seemingly so keen to try and get him game time in English football tells me he knows it too. He’s obviously given up on ever playing in the premier league and wants to take advantage of the lower tax rate on offer while he still has some kind of reputation that allows the move. We may never know, perhaps his own life changing events of late have hit him hard, Christ they would do, poor guy. Perhaps footy doesn’t motivate him anymore. Maybe the reaction from the fans early last season stuck in his mind?
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 19:21:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:21:47 GMT
He's tried to give Afobe the extra motivation to grab a 2nd chance and prove his worth by bigging him up, and not particularly liked what he's seen thereafter. That's my take on it anyway..... Sometimes you have to be man enough to admit that you made a mistake. Stubbornness ultimately did our previous two managers in so I find it quite refreshing that MON can admit he got it wrong on Afobe after taking a close look at him in pre season. I wouldn't even say he got it wrong. It's the first time he worked with him and I guess he saw nothing worth persisting with. But agree good that he was decisive.....
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 19:27:22 GMT
Post by pottersrule on Sept 16, 2020 19:27:22 GMT
I don't find it odd at all. People change their opinions all the time as situations change. Surely it's better to have a manager who changes his opinion on the present circumstances rather than one who nails his colours to the mast and is pig headed. There's a middle ground in there isn't there? For a bloke who is so level headed, this one just doesn't make sense. He absolutely gushed over him and pretty much openly questioned the professional judgement of his predecessor, before performing a 180 degree u turn and doing exactly the same as he did. All in the space of a month. I agree you don't want a pig headed manager but that's not O'Neill anyway and not what I was saying. Perhaps pressure from above with regards to ffp! Have to say I've never been impressed with him when I've seen him play and he is a too expensive commodity to be sitting on the bench.
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Sept 16, 2020 19:28:39 GMT
MON gave him a chance and saw what was painfully apparent in the first game of last season, the Benik Afobe who looked decent for a season or two at Wolves is long gone. The fact he’s even considering going Turkey when he had an obviously competent manager seemingly so keen to try and get him game time in English football tells me he knows it too. He’s obviously given up on ever playing in the premier league and wants to take advantage of the lower tax rate on offer while he still has some kind of reputation that allows the move. We may never know, perhaps his own life changing events of late have hit him hard, Christ they would do, poor guy. Perhaps footy doesn’t motivate him anymore. Maybe the reaction from the fans early last season stuck in his mind? I don’t think the reaction from fans would have helped for sure. It certainly seemed he was very quick to think of himself as a Bristol City player. And you’re quite right, I can’t imagine being able to ever focus again at work if I went through what he went through. But, as sad as it is, he clearly doesn’t want to be here, and isn’t going to really do anything when he’s on the pitch based on what we’ve seen. He gets his pay rise (due to less tax), we get his wages off the books, a small loan fee and all the benefits FFP related that come from that and I think it’s a win win all round really (of course you have to wonder why we signed him, but our past transfers have been analyzed to death). Hope he goes and proves me wrong, scores 30 goals in Turkey and ends up being signed by someone in the Premier League when his contract expires. Just doesn’t seem likely sadly. I certainly don’t have any ill feeling towards the bloke. We’ve brought this and similar situations on ourselves an awful lot over the last few seasons and it’s the club who need to learn from it and improve. Fingers crossed it seems to be the case based on the little we’ve seen this summer.
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 19:44:45 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 16, 2020 19:44:45 GMT
Can understand how bollocks have been dropped taking gambles when in the Premier. But can’t fathom how this happened when being in pole position with the biggest budget in the championship e.g. Afobe, Woods, Vokes, Ince. Where were the lessons learnt?
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 20:03:11 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 16, 2020 20:03:11 GMT
Sometimes you have to be man enough to admit that you made a mistake. Stubbornness ultimately did our previous two managers in so I find it quite refreshing that MON can admit he got it wrong on Afobe after taking a close look at him in pre season. I wouldn't even say he got it wrong. It's the first time he worked with him and I guess he saw nothing worth persisting with. But agree good that he was decisive..... Yeah that’s fair enough. I guess with the way he was gushing over him in pre season some managers would blindly believe they could get Afobe back to the player they thought they were getting. Good management either way - we’ve had too many managers persisting with their favourites rather than being ruthless.
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Afobe
Sept 16, 2020 20:14:36 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 20:14:36 GMT
If he has really signed off on it then his comments only a few weeks ago seem really odd now. He's gone from saying that last years loan isn't something he'd have done, because of his quality in the Championship to saying he's not fit for purpose. A very strange affair. He's not the only one that thinks/thought he was a good player for some reason, he seems to have this reputation of being a very good striker but his history both here and at other clubs says otherwise, its bizare.
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