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Post by Simon Drainrod on Mar 1, 2019 10:41:18 GMT
Currently watching the Netflix documentary Sunderland Til I Die. Well worth a watch.
It is scary how many parallels there are between us and them last season. Most of the same mistakes and false assumptions have been made. For example:
- a belief that retaining the nucleus of a failed Premier League side gives you the best chance of automatic promotion, but instead gives you mediocrity
- appointing an experienced Championship Manager (Grayson) based on middling results
- most starkly. a working class city feeling totally remote from the highly paid players on the pitch.
Etc. Etc.
Fortunately we won’t go down as they did, but we really appear to have done our best to follow their lead!
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Post by werrington on Mar 1, 2019 10:44:57 GMT
Not this stuff again ...How have we followed their lead?
They virtually pulled all their spending whereas we have backed the managers, it’s not the same scenario
It used to be Charlton now its Sunderland....whose next
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 1, 2019 10:47:01 GMT
Bolton?
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Post by daveandeddy on Mar 1, 2019 10:54:50 GMT
Absolutely chalk and cheese what happened to Sunderland and what is going on ( sadly ) at Stoke
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 1, 2019 12:18:19 GMT
Not this stuff again ...How have we followed their lead? They virtually pulled all their spending whereas we have backed the managers, it’s not the same scenario It used to be Charlton now its Sunderland....whose next They were also in the bottom 3 for virtually all of the season. They never even looked like getting out of it. |
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Post by adi on Sept 1, 2019 22:34:12 GMT
Are we now less confident that we wouldn’t follow suit??
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Post by madnellie on Sept 2, 2019 0:12:30 GMT
I watched it last week, there are some worrying parallels.
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Post by Godo on Sept 2, 2019 0:52:44 GMT
Whereas the Leeds documentary on Amazon showed a club with a clear vision and purpose. I was particularly frustrated by the comparison between their recruitment and ours. They identified 4 particular type of players in key positions. Securing 3 and only missing out on Daniel James on transferdeadline due to Swansea not honouring the transfer - what a difference it would make if we had an owner with vision, a chief exec as professional and driven as theirs and a director of football who had the same level of knowledge and contacts.
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Post by Davef on Apr 1, 2020 7:22:53 GMT
New season streaming from today.
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Post by haway on Apr 1, 2020 8:00:27 GMT
Well here we go again on centre stage...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 14:34:52 GMT
What an absolute tosser that Methven bloke is!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 16:00:56 GMT
That Charlie Methven is actually Barry Homeowner.
He's a walking Bob Mortimer character, what an absolute gimp the bloke is.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Apr 1, 2020 16:01:18 GMT
I think you can make a comparison between Maja and tyresse. Just rams home how important it was to keep TC
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Post by RF10 on Apr 1, 2020 16:26:24 GMT
Watched the first one and yeah that Charlie is a twat. Got a bit of David Brent about him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 23:36:39 GMT
So far on this thread, Coleman has been described as a randy bastard and having shifty eyes. (I've not watched the programme yet but I do have Netflix). I always thought he looked a bit Indian, he could always get a part in a remake of 'It ain't half hot Mum'. Pretty sure one of his parents is Irish which makes it more confusing. Always seems a decent chap and came over well. As for Rodwell, agree is a prime example of a payer raking in money with little love for his club but his contract is down to sheer stupidity by Sunderland. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 2, 2020 13:04:22 GMT
Losing 30 million a year , 7 million interest payments 🤪
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 3, 2020 23:57:43 GMT
I watched the four year plan again today makes sunderland look amateur in the batshit crazy mismanagement stakes, 3 guys playing billionaire championship manager.....
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Post by seabridgestokie on Apr 4, 2020 9:59:29 GMT
If they’d kept hold of Maja til the end of the season and risked him going on a free they may of got promoted. I’d of told the agent to do one and therefore they didn’t need to waste all that money on Griggs which would’ve saved money anyway.
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Post by swinisskill on Apr 4, 2020 10:19:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 11:52:16 GMT
That Charlie Methven is actually Barry Homeowner. He's a walking Bob Mortimer character, what an absolute gimp the bloke is. As a follow-on from this too, Stewart Donald looks slightly like a charmless southern Bob Mortimer. Maybe it's just the hair. |
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Post by seabridgestokie on Apr 5, 2020 8:31:46 GMT
Bloody hell £57k per week, the football world has gone mad. How did A french club afford those wages.
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Post by RF10 on Apr 5, 2020 9:34:11 GMT
If they’d kept hold of Maja til the end of the season and risked him going on a free they may of got promoted. I’d of told the agent to do one and therefore they didn’t need to waste all that money on Griggs which would’ve saved money anyway. This is what I found bizarre, they were willing to let go a potential 25 goal season guy for about 1.5 who was scoring for fun yet then buy Grigg for 3 million who I'm sure was on a lot higher wage. I suppose the only risk is having player who isn't happy but didn't come across like that. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Apr 5, 2020 10:44:22 GMT
Just watched episode 3 and 4. Donald comes across alright but Methven an absolute tosser!
Could Tyrese become our Maja, albeit tied down to us? If so, the decision to tie him down to that contract could be the best business we've done in many a year
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 5, 2020 11:24:00 GMT
Methven has come in for a lot of stick since the series aired but I thought he was probably what the club needed off the field.
The place needed a gigantic kick up the arse.
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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 5, 2020 18:59:13 GMT
I’m about half way through the first series. My main observation so far is that people in Sunderland bang on about being a ‘big’ club more than is healthy.
In my lifetime they’ve been out of the top flight more often than they’ve been in it.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 5, 2020 20:22:36 GMT
I’m about half way through the first series. My main observation so far is that people in Sunderland bang on about being a ‘big’ club more than is healthy. In my lifetime they’ve been out of the top flight more often than they’ve been in it. Never played in Europe either. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 5, 2020 20:52:23 GMT
Although Methven was obviously a bit (very) Brent and rubbed a few people up the wrong way, he did seem to know what he was doing and I thought him and Donald did at least have Sunderland’s best interests at heart.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 20:59:15 GMT
I’m about half way through the first series. My main observation so far is that people in Sunderland bang on about being a ‘big’ club more than is healthy. In my lifetime they’ve been out of the top flight more often than they’ve been in it. Never played in Europe either. Surely The Cup Winners Cup? |
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Post by saturday on Apr 6, 2020 20:10:48 GMT
I know not Stoke related at all other than a story of trying to survive in the Championship after a succession of managers! Amway doco is really well done - really recommend watching #nospoilers Thanks, I’m really enjoying it |
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Post by lordb on Apr 6, 2020 22:09:50 GMT
Never played in Europe either. Surely The Cup Winners Cup? Wasn't a thing then. |
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