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Post by followyoudown on May 7, 2017 20:24:40 GMT
Think you're getting confused with the number of alternate user ID's he has  Oh dear, that paranoia kicking in again? A desire to suck up to others at any cost to self esteem AND paranoid delusions. Get some professional help, King of the Brown Nosers! Melt meltdown imminent  |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 7, 2017 20:28:49 GMT
So why did you say the EU should be sensible and give us a good deal then if you want a hard Brexit? Face it, you've not got a clue have you. Its a good job fyd is happy enough to give you a supportive reach around at times like this. What I'm saying is I'm happy with hard Brexit if they want to risk chaos just to teach us a lesson Why are you so happy to say it's us that is causing instability when it's the eu with their poker face of "we'll teach those little Englanders" They'll drop the bullshit eventually as it'll hurt them more than us. People like you want to grow some bollocks......and hair while you're at it Why do they need us more than we need them? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 7, 2017 20:29:58 GMT
Just as in the Netherlands, the candidate of the "silent majority" is emphatically silenced. That's just not true at all. Neither Holland or France had a candidate that represented the 'silent majority', what they had was a candidate who represented the far-right... And the fact that a fair number of the 'silent majority' have ended up voting for a far-right candidate *should* be getting the left to wake the fuck up & realise that people aren't happy with what is happening to their countries... But as evidenced right here on this thread, it's already being claimed as some kind of victory instead. Are people claiming that Macron has had "some kind of victory"? What utter bastards - how dare they celebrate a fairly comprehensive victory as "some kind of victory". Everyone knows the real winner is the 35% that voted for Le Pen. After the resounding victory for Wilders, it really is a good time to be a supporter of these types of parties. I wonder what Le Pen will do now she has control of France? |
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Post by followyoudown on May 7, 2017 20:31:23 GMT
That's being a little generous . The Yoda of snide  "Truly wonderful the mind of a child is" Bispham Potter Attack Of The Clones (Ironic hey ) |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 7, 2017 20:33:18 GMT
Jesus, just TRY to stop brown nosing lol
You really can't help yourself!
Such low self esteem, KOBN!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 7, 2017 20:36:26 GMT
That's just not true at all. Neither Holland or France had a candidate that represented the 'silent majority', what they had was a candidate who represented the far-right... And the fact that a fair number of the 'silent majority' have ended up voting for a far-right candidate *should* be getting the left to wake the fuck up & realise that people aren't happy with what is happening to their countries... But as evidenced right here on this thread, it's already being claimed as some kind of victory instead. Are people claiming that Macron has had "some kind of victory"? What utter bastards - how dare they celebrate a fairly comprehensive victory as "some kind of victory". Everyone knows the real winner is the 35% that voted for Le Pen. After the resounding victory for Wilders, it really is a good time to be a supporter of these types of parties. I wonder what Le Pen will do now she has control of France? Yeah 65-35 some kind of victory. Not as emphatic as 52-48 is it. What we need is crapslinger on here telling all those le Pen supporters to suck it up they lost bla bla bla |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 7, 2017 20:37:21 GMT
Le Pen has softened the image of the party somewhat, the party itself consists of politicians with an outlook more in keeping to that of her father. Left/Right is a very poor measure of a party's stance in this day and age, in my opinion. I think that you are both correct, as is DC above. If a day is a long time in politics, the next five years should be interesting. It is hard to change an image, if a party emerges / or Front Nationale's image becomes softer, then an anti eu party, coupled with concerns about immigration, against the backdrop of whatever actually transpires in France, might be successful in the future. Lin many wzys I think the French are more polarised and less tolerant than us in respect of race...no room for concerns about immigration without being labelled a racist. In the UK at least people such as Field, Stuart, Corbyn ( at one time) , Galloway and Benn could be Eurosceptic, but not labelled racist. I don't think the French really had anywhere to go. Safety first.Their confidence as a nation has gone, they have been content to " know their place" as deputy head and first lieutenant to the Germans. Interesting times. Rejecting Le Pen is a sign of a confident nation, or at the very least one that will not be duped by bullshit populism. Whether Macron will be a success or not, I don't know. But he is a damn sight better than the poisoned witch that is Le Pen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:41:14 GMT
That's being a little generous . The Yoda of snide Excellent .....where did you think of that ? Borrowed it off ************** I suppose   |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:42:39 GMT
The Yoda of snide "Truly wonderful the mind of a child is" Bispham Potter Attack Of The Clones (Ironic hey ) That's more original than his Yoda line  |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 7, 2017 20:43:58 GMT
Yeah, populism peaked with Brexit and Trump and shows the immaturity of the electorates of those countries compared to Europe.
You can't blame them to some extent. If you're drip fed bullshit about the EU by the rightwing press for 20 plus years and successive governments pander to it for political expediency, this shit is where you end up.
They're not so daft on the continent.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 7, 2017 20:45:42 GMT
The Yoda of snide Excellent .....where did you think of that ? Borrowed it off ************** I suppose no it was on another thread, seems you've been recognised for what you are :-( |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 7, 2017 20:47:11 GMT
Yeah, populism peaked with Brexit and Trump and shows the immaturity of the electorates of those countries compared to Europe. You can't blame them to some extent. If you're drip fed bullshit about the EU by the rightwing press for 20 plus years and successive governments pander to it for political expediency, this shit is where you end up. They're not so daft on the continent. I think it might be a bit early to write off the populist right just yet, but at least Wilders and Le Pen have been defeated. It'll take a few more election defeats to convince that the world has come to its senses. I hope you're correct about Trump and Brexit being the peak though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:47:50 GMT
Excellent .....where did you think of that ? Borrowed it off ************** I suppose no it was on another thread, seems you've been recognised for what you are :-( By ************** ..... certainly not you , I doubt whether you recognise yourself in a mirror ? |
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Post by followyoudown on May 7, 2017 20:49:44 GMT
Yeah, populism peaked with Brexit and Trump and shows the immaturity of the electorates of those countries compared to Europe. You can't blame them to some extent. If you're drip fed bullshit about the EU by the rightwing press for 20 plus years and successive governments pander to it for political expediency, this shit is where you end up. They're not so daft on the continent. 35% (11 m people) of the French just voted for an actual fascist to be president you melt, thank God the electorate of the UK is so immature I'll never see that my lifetime. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:57:21 GMT
What I'm saying is I'm happy with hard Brexit if they want to risk chaos just to teach us a lesson Why are you so happy to say it's us that is causing instability when it's the eu with their poker face of "we'll teach those little Englanders" They'll drop the bullshit eventually as it'll hurt them more than us. People like you want to grow some bollocks......and hair while you're at it Why do they need us more than we need them? Oh fuck off you boring bastard |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 7, 2017 20:59:23 GMT
I think that you are both correct, as is DC above. If a day is a long time in politics, the next five years should be interesting. It is hard to change an image, if a party emerges / or Front Nationale's image becomes softer, then an anti eu party, coupled with concerns about immigration, against the backdrop of whatever actually transpires in France, might be successful in the future. Lin many wzys I think the French are more polarised and less tolerant than us in respect of race...no room for concerns about immigration without being labelled a racist. In the UK at least people such as Field, Stuart, Corbyn ( at one time) , Galloway and Benn could be Eurosceptic, but not labelled racist. I don't think the French really had anywhere to go. Safety first.Their confidence as a nation has gone, they have been content to " know their place" as deputy head and first lieutenant to the Germans. Interesting times. Rejecting Le Pen is a sign of a confident nation, or at the very least one that will not be duped by bullshit populism. Whether Macron will be a success or not, I don't know. But he is a damn sight better than the poisoned witch that is Le Pen. My impression is that France is far from confident, a very divided scared nation, losing its identity, standing for very little.....as I say interesting times ahead |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:59:37 GMT
Why do they need us more than we need them? Oh fuck off you boring bastard |
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Post by salopstick on May 7, 2017 21:08:23 GMT
Yeah, populism peaked with Brexit and Trump and shows the immaturity of the electorates of those countries compared to Europe. You can't blame them to some extent. If you're drip fed bullshit about the EU by the rightwing press for 20 plus years and successive governments pander to it for political expediency, this shit is where you end up. They're not so daft on the continent. 35% (11 m people) of the French just voted for an actual fascist to be president you melt, thank God the electorate of the UK is so immature I'll never see that my lifetime. 35% of the population won't vote for a Marxist in this country at the moment |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 21:17:09 GMT
35% (11 m people) of the French just voted for an actual fascist to be president you melt, thank God the electorate of the UK is so immature I'll never see that my lifetime. 35% of the population won't vote for a Marxist in this country at the moment Unlikely ever to . |
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Post by desman2 on May 7, 2017 21:25:03 GMT
Yeah, populism peaked with Brexit and Trump and shows the immaturity of the electorates of those countries compared to Europe. You can't blame them to some extent. If you're drip fed bullshit about the EU by the rightwing press for 20 plus years and successive governments pander to it for political expediency, this shit is where you end up. They're not so daft on the continent. 35% (11 m people) of the French just voted for an actual fascist to be president you melt, thank God the electorate of the UK is so immature I'll never see that my lifetime. All immature except you of course. Is your name Jesus by any chance because you keep passing yourself off as the perfect example. |
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Post by hammered on May 7, 2017 21:29:46 GMT
LePen carries the stigma for many legacy policies she’s either softened on, or never espoused ..but no doubt the EU (in the short term) has a stay of execution, with one of their own at the helm.
This right/left stuff has all become a bit irritating when all many people want is fucking common sense politics (populism) and whilst she may have lost this vote, will provide France (unlike the UK) with a robust challenge to Macron going forward.
Whatever, the French have essentially chosen more of the same – but let’s be clear, Macron kisses Merkels feet and is elected without any formal experience or MP’s in government. I’d say he’s more senior EU management.
The reasons that drove a significant surge of anti-establishment/EU support to get LePen to the final need to be addressed though and in this respect, it will be interesting seeing if Macron can spin(LePen inspired) reformist rhetoric, smelling a bit fraulein.
How he deals with the migrant crisis, terrorism, borders, unemployment etc....can/will France take its own path or will they concede to complete Brussels (German) control?
Interesting times gentlemen!!
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Post by salopstick on May 7, 2017 21:42:23 GMT
It's funny how the Rothschilds get one of their own as president.
And his now 64 year old wife groomed him when he was 15
A strange character
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Post by followyoudown on May 7, 2017 21:52:29 GMT
35% (11 m people) of the French just voted for an actual fascist to be president you melt, thank God the electorate of the UK is so immature I'll never see that my lifetime. All immature except you of course. Is your name Jesus by any chance because you keep passing yourself off as the perfect example. What a strange post, i've no idea whst you are on about, ************** RWB was proclaiming the maturity of the French compared to the British in voting for brexit. I was just pointing out that 35% of the French have just voted for an actual fascist, something that will NEVER happen in the UK. So have you misunderstood or are you upset at me writing off the chances of a fascist getting 35% of the vote in the UK....... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 7, 2017 22:02:03 GMT
Le Pen and Brexit are not the same.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 7, 2017 22:20:03 GMT
Le Pen and Brexit are not the same. Those damn brainwashed millennials..... |
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Post by crapslinger on May 7, 2017 22:21:16 GMT
Le Pen and Brexit are not the same. I am sure that the Socialist's, Marxist left wing will agree the youth is the future, stupid ignorant thick old fuckers got it wrong again , they should fuck off and live somewhere that mirrors their views  the USA perhaps. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 22:30:37 GMT
Le Pen and Brexit are not the same. Those damn brainwashed millennials..... ? |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 7, 2017 22:41:37 GMT
Those damn brainwashed millennials..... ? The same accusation made against 75% of the youth in this country who voted remain. Just a cheap shot |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 22:48:11 GMT
? The same accusation made against 75% of the youth in this country who voted remain. Just a cheap shot It was ......when most of those youthful voters mature a little in later years ....their point of view will change ...it mostly always does .. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 7, 2017 22:56:49 GMT
The same accusation made against 75% of the youth in this country who voted remain. Just a cheap shot It was ......when most of those youthful voters mature a little in later years ....their point of view will change ...it mostly always does .. Likewise the Le Pen voters too then! |
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the USA perhaps.
