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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 17:32:11 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today?
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Post by fortressbritannia on Oct 26, 2013 17:32:55 GMT
Witch burn the witch.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 17:33:47 GMT
He still misses too many easy chances (as did Crouch). That has to change. No excuses.
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Oct 26, 2013 17:38:59 GMT
he had a solid game for me - the chance, fell just behind him from what I remember, however if he'd taken a touch either Evans or De Gea would have been on him like a shot, he tried to generate power, he did, just could quite steer it to the side of the keeper....I actually felt for him to be honest, because he reacted very well to the rebound, but Evans or Smalling (cant remember witch) also reacted very well
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 17:41:32 GMT
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 17:43:14 GMT
he had a solid game for me - the chance, fell just behind him from what I remember, however if he'd taken a touch either Evans or De Gea would have been on him like a shot, he tried to generate power, he did, just could quite steer it to the side of the keeper....I actually felt for him to be honest, because he reacted very well to the rebound, but Evans or Smalling (cant remember witch) also reacted very well If I remember correctly, he had to hit it with his left foot as well, didn't he, mate?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 17:44:35 GMT
He's a good defensive option, which is probably why managers play him at times. Or, all the bastard time as is the case. They can trust him to track back and keep going for 90+ minutes putting in a defensive shift to help the team. He actually did some good defending today.
Now here's the twist....
The issue is, he's actually by trade a striker. Or winger, i can't put that, scrap that "wide man" is more accurate. So that's where it all falls apart....in front of the opposition goal.
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Oct 26, 2013 17:47:09 GMT
he had a solid game for me - the chance, fell just behind him from what I remember, however if he'd taken a touch either Evans or De Gea would have been on him like a shot, he tried to generate power, he did, just could quite steer it to the side of the keeper....I actually felt for him to be honest, because he reacted very well to the rebound, but Evans or Smalling (cant remember witch) also reacted very well If I remember correctly, he had to hit it with his left foot as well, didn't he, mate? Maybe so now you mention it...he linked up well and looked sharp going forwards all in all...but that's just my opinion, I'm sure many other won't agree
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 17:48:31 GMT
He's a good defensive option, which is probably why managers play him at times. Or, all the bastard time as is the case. They can trust him to track back and keep going for 90+ minutes putting in a defensive shift to help the team. He actually did some good defending today. Now here's the twist.... The issue is, he's actually by trade a striker. Or winger, i can't put that, scrap that "wide man" is more accurate. So that's where it all falls apart....in front of the opposition goal. Like for the third goal? Work rate isn't good defensive work. But Your second paragraph is bang on. He shouldn't be expected to defend to the extent he is but he is. And it costs us big style. And then we have to rely on his finishing abilities too. I don't get him at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 17:52:34 GMT
He's a good defensive option, which is probably why managers play him at times. Or, all the bastard time as is the case. They can trust him to track back and keep going for 90+ minutes putting in a defensive shift to help the team. He actually did some good defending today. Now here's the twist.... The issue is, he's actually by trade a striker. Or winger, i can't put that, scrap that "wide man" is more accurate. So that's where it all falls apart....in front of the opposition goal. Like for the third goal? Work rate isn't good defensive work. But Your second paragraph is bang on. He shouldn't be expected to defend to the extent he is but he is. And it costs us big style. And then we have to rely on his finishing abilities too. I don't get him at all. I have a case for my defence here your honour....my stream froze as the ball was being spotted up for the corner. Which is true, i have witnesses! So i missed the third goal, i put Radio Stoke on (my back up plan) and found out we were losing. So i dunno about whether he went walkabout or not. I had stream problems all arvo, got a French one at one point, when Jones miskicked the fella went "ooooooooOOOOOOOhhh!" in a very high pitched French stylee.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 17:55:08 GMT
Like for the third goal? Work rate isn't good defensive work. But Your second paragraph is bang on. He shouldn't be expected to defend to the extent he is but he is. And it costs us big style. And then we have to rely on his finishing abilities too. I don't get him at all. I have a case for my defence here your honour....my stream froze as the ball was being spotted up for the corner. Which is true, i have witnesses! So i missed the third goal, i put Radio Stoke on (my back up plan) and found out we were losing. So i dunno about whether he went walkabout or not. I had stream problems all arvo, got a French one at one point, when Jones miskicked the fella went "ooooooooOOOOOOOhhh!" in a very high pitched French stylee. He let Evra go a bit too easy who then crossed it and they scored. The marking was pretty dreadful too. He just fucks me off to high heaven and I really don't like the bloke. It's no agenda, it's just a loathing.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 26, 2013 18:00:24 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 26, 2013 18:01:16 GMT
Why do some people always have to find a scapegoat?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 18:03:11 GMT
Why do some people always have to find a scapegoat? I could find a herd of the fucking things in this squad! Much like Walters, scapegoatism is something I don't get!
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 18:04:41 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. Really have to go that far?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 18:12:56 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:28:26 GMT
he had a solid game for me - the chance, fell just behind him from what I remember, however if he'd taken a touch either Evans or De Gea would have been on him like a shot, he tried to generate power, he did, just could quite steer it to the side of the keeper....I actually felt for him to be honest, because he reacted very well to the rebound, but Evans or Smalling (cant remember witch) also reacted very well If I remember correctly, he had to hit it with his left foot as well, didn't he, mate? Left foot, right foot fucking head all end up not ending in the back of the net, poor defensive mistake costing a goal, missed sitter costing another point, just how bad does this clown have to be to be dropped, I am losing faith in Hughes if Walters continues to be an integral part of his plans we are in BIG trouble. He has to be dropped and now he is a liability we can not afford, cue the he runs about a lot crew
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Post by kingstokie on Oct 26, 2013 18:30:35 GMT
Sky Sports player reviews: Walters - typical Walters performance. Plenty of heart at both ends. 6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:33:41 GMT
If I remember correctly, he had to hit it with his left foot as well, didn't he, mate? Left foot, right foot fucking head all end up not ending in the back of the net, poor defensive mistake costing a goal, missed sitter costing another point, just how bad does this clown have to be to be dropped, I am losing faith in Hughes if Walters continues to be an integral part of his plans we are in BIG trouble. He has to be dropped and now he is a liability we can not afford, cue the he runs about a lot crew I find it hilarious you're losing faith in Hughes because he plays Walters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:35:15 GMT
Sky Sports player reviews: Walters - typical Walters performance. Plenty of heart at both ends. 6 Typical Walters performance, missed sitter can not defend costs us a point again, but makes up for any footballing ability by running about a lot.
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Post by pedro23 on Oct 26, 2013 18:38:10 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I was watching via a stream, so maybe I missed something, what exactly did he do? Great first half? What I did see was he missed a feckin sitter at Old Trafford,
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 18:38:11 GMT
Left foot, right foot fucking head all end up not ending in the back of the net, poor defensive mistake costing a goal, missed sitter costing another point, just how bad does this clown have to be to be dropped, I am losing faith in Hughes if Walters continues to be an integral part of his plans we are in BIG trouble. He has to be dropped and now he is a liability we can not afford, cue the he runs about a lot crew I find it hilarious you're losing faith in Hughes because he plays Walters. I find it hilarious that this clown earns a living as a Premiership footballer, I lost faith in Pulis partly because of his Walters love in, I really had hoped that Hughes would ship him out and actually bring in a player that was capable of more than running about a lot.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 18:42:31 GMT
Left foot, right foot fucking head all end up not ending in the back of the net, poor defensive mistake costing a goal, missed sitter costing another point, just how bad does this clown have to be to be dropped, I am losing faith in Hughes if Walters continues to be an integral part of his plans we are in BIG trouble. He has to be dropped and now he is a liability we can not afford, cue the he runs about a lot crew I find it hilarious you're losing faith in Hughes because he plays Walters. I'll be honest, I'm still on the good ship Hughes but his use of Walters is probably the biggest stain on his tenure thus far imo.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2013 19:37:18 GMT
I find it hilarious you're losing faith in Hughes because he plays Walters. I'll be honest, I'm still on the good ship Hughes but his use of Walters is probably the biggest stain on his tenure thus far imo. For once it would be nice to see Walters not play two consecutive games... Impossible me thinks.
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Post by skeelsy on Oct 26, 2013 19:57:48 GMT
His record (penalties excluded)is now 3 goals in 62 away PL appearances (i.e an average of less than I away goal per season). Surely that tells its own story. He has no pace, no left foot , has poor control, is weak in the air and continually misses easy chances on the ground. Apart from that he is f**king world class.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 26, 2013 20:01:36 GMT
I think Walters has his uses. He does a good job as an irritant for the opposition on the wing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:09:38 GMT
Skeelsy daming numbers indeed it's what worries me about this management team they seem not to do the hard yards in the background set pieces , poor selection etc
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:13:31 GMT
I think Walters has his uses. He does a good job as an irritant for the opposition on the wing. He fucking irritates me wherever he plays.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2013 20:14:01 GMT
His record (penalties excluded)is now 3 goals in 62 away PL appearances (i.e an average of less than I away goal per season). Surely that tells its own story. He has no pace, no left foot , has poor control, is weak in the air and continually misses easy chances on the ground. Apart from that he is f**king world class. Yep, it points to the fact he hasn't been playing up front.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:16:06 GMT
His record (penalties excluded)is now 3 goals in 62 away PL appearances (i.e an average of less than I away goal per season). Surely that tells its own story. He has no pace, no left foot , has poor control, is weak in the air and continually misses easy chances on the ground. Apart from that he is f**king world class. Yep, it points to the fact he hasn't been playing up front. WTF where has he been playing then ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
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