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Post by borat on Oct 26, 2013 20:20:11 GMT
I am no fan of walters but he was decent first half, still want him out of the team though.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2013 20:22:34 GMT
Yep, it points to the fact he hasn't been playing up front. WTF where has he been playing then ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/ Wide right most of the time.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 26, 2013 20:24:39 GMT
Why don't penalty's count as goals these days?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2013 20:26:23 GMT
Why don't penalty's count as goals these days? It doesn't sit well with their agenda.
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Post by harrysburrow on Oct 26, 2013 20:39:03 GMT
Why don't penalty's count as goals these days? It doesn't sit well with their agenda. Penaltys rarely count as goals when Walters is taking them?
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2013 20:45:03 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. OK I'll bite Walters is not a good prem footballer no siree but 'pathetic excuse of a player'? Fuck me when I think of some of the players (I & everyone else who has watched Stoke longer than the last 5 years) - & we are talking 3 figures here - who have been worse & much worse than Walters how exactly would you describe them? Walters is on a good day (like today) a useful option & on a bad day (like last week for e.g.) not a good option. Stoke pay average wages so we are going to get average players. Having seen plenty of 'better' players not a give a shit whilst pulling on the red & white I think Walters at the very least warrants a modicum of respect from supporters even when moaning about him. If you think he shouldnt be in the side fair do's however there is only one obvious pathetic excuse re Stoke City today & it isnt him.
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Post by westpoint on Oct 26, 2013 20:47:52 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. OK I'll bite Walters is not a good prem footballer no siree but 'pathetic excuse of a player'? Fuck me when I think of some of the players (I & everyone else who has watched Stoke longer than the last 5 years) - & we are talking 3 figures here - who have been worse & much worse than Walters how exactly would you describe them? Walters is on a good day (like today) a useful option & on a bad day (like last week for e.g.) not a good option. Stoke pay average wages so we are going to get average players. Having seen plenty of 'better' players not a give a shit whilst pulling on the red & white I think Walters at the very least warrants a modicum of respect from supporters even when moaning about him. If you think he shouldnt be in the side fair do's however there is only one obvious pathetic excuse re Stoke City today & it isnt him.
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Post by westpoint on Oct 26, 2013 20:50:13 GMT
For Christ sake stop talking sense, Shawcross should be in the World Cup squad though......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:52:12 GMT
WTF where has he been playing then ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/ Wide right most of the time. So wide right is not an attacking position then ?, fair enough how many credible assists has he had in" most of the time", assists to the opposition do not count.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 20:57:08 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. OK I'll bite Walters is not a good prem footballer no siree but 'pathetic excuse of a player'? Fuck me when I think of some of the players (I & everyone else who has watched Stoke longer than the last 5 years) - & we are talking 3 figures here - who have been worse & much worse than Walters how exactly would you describe them? Walters is on a good day (like today) a useful option & on a bad day (like last week for e.g.) not a good option. Stoke pay average wages so we are going to get average players. Having seen plenty of 'better' players not a give a shit whilst pulling on the red & white I think Walters at the very least warrants a modicum of respect from supporters even when moaning about him. If you think he shouldnt be in the side fair do's however there is only one obvious pathetic excuse re Stoke City today & it isnt him. I all fairness I think pathetic excuse for a Premiership footballer would have been a better call, I have seen worse playing for Stoke but not many in the Premiere league and I have been watching Stoke since the early seventies, all this he runs about a lot means fuck all if there is no end product.
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Post by bristolpotter123 on Oct 26, 2013 20:57:45 GMT
The problem with Walters is he puts too much effort into defending and then lacks poise if presented with a chance . Dangerous thing to say but I think our two central defenders are not looking as safe as they used to .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 21:02:11 GMT
The problem with Walters is he puts too much effort into defending and then lacks poise if presented with a chance . Dangerous thing to say but I think our two central defenders are not looking as safe as they used to . He is also pretty shit at defending and lacks the awareness required to be a defensive player, so that would make him shit at both enough said.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 26, 2013 21:04:21 GMT
Wide right most of the time. So wide right is not an attacking position then ?, fair enough how many credible assists has he had in" most of the time", assists to the opposition do not count. He is our second highest combined goals and assists from last two seasons Crouch is the highest
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Post by seths on Oct 26, 2013 21:09:38 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. OK I'll bite Walters is not a good prem footballer no siree but 'pathetic excuse of a player'? Fuck me when I think of some of the players (I & everyone else who has watched Stoke longer than the last 5 years) - & we are talking 3 figures here - who have been worse & much worse than Walters how exactly would you describe them? Walters is on a good day (like today) a useful option & on a bad day (like last week for e.g.) not a good option. Stoke pay average wages so we are going to get average players. Having seen plenty of 'better' players not a give a shit whilst pulling on the red & white I think Walters at the very least warrants a modicum of respect from supporters even when moaning about him. If you think he shouldnt be in the side fair do's however there is only one obvious pathetic excuse re Stoke City today & it isnt him. +1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 21:11:48 GMT
So wide right is not an attacking position then ?, fair enough how many credible assists has he had in" most of the time", assists to the opposition do not count. He is our second highest combined goals and assists from last two seasons Crouch is the highest Very impressed can you now compare game time between Walters and the rest of our attacking options and work out as a percentage rate how that relates, perhaps he should stick to wide right all the time after all he was signed as a winger from Ipshit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 21:15:26 GMT
For Christ sake stop talking sense, Shawcross should be in the World Cup squad though...... Shawcross as he proved is not good enough for a place in the World Cup squad, likewise Walters is not good enough to be in an established Premiere league squad as he has proved.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 21:39:18 GMT
That miss is pretty piss poor. Some media people have hailed it as a wonder save. Do they watch a different game? It was smashed straight at him, if he's got strong wrists (he should have, the wanker) it's an easy save. The goal was at his mercy and he twats it down the 'keeper's throat. Not good enough.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 26, 2013 22:13:49 GMT
That miss is pretty piss poor. Some media people have hailed it as a wonder save. Do they watch a different game? It was smashed straight at him, if he's got strong wrists (he should have, the wanker) it's an easy save. The goal was at his mercy and he twats it down the 'keeper's throat. Not good enough. How many potential assists did he make I counted at least 3. Crouch missed his first shot, he scored (I think) by one of their players kicking it at him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 22:22:06 GMT
That miss is pretty piss poor. Some media people have hailed it as a wonder save. Do they watch a different game? It was smashed straight at him, if he's got strong wrists (he should have, the wanker) it's an easy save. The goal was at his mercy and he twats it down the 'keeper's throat. Not good enough. How many potential assists did he make I counted at least 3. Crouch missed his first shot, he scored (I think) by one of their players kicking it at him. It's always potential or could have or should have with Walters! I can remember one in all honesty but that's on my memory not Walters! He still costs us more than he gives, that's simply not tolerable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 22:27:11 GMT
I've never slagged walters but he was a massive liability again today.
He should have put us 2-0 up but lets face it, who here could ever conceive of Walters actually taking a chance like that, in those circumstances, against distinguished opposition? it just will never happen because he isn't very good
in the second half he turned a chance in their box into one of their most promising attacking moves
when he defends he is absolute wank. it is frightening
on their third he should have stopped the cross
very very poor.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 26, 2013 22:27:27 GMT
I really despair with Jonathan Walters or the picking of anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 22:27:32 GMT
Walters gets a lot of stick from stoke fans, no wonder he shits himself when he gets a chance. I think a bit of support would go a long way with him.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 26, 2013 22:32:22 GMT
It was one of Walters better games. First half he made lots of positive contributions. He did however miss another gilt edged chance. All strikers miss chances like that, but very few do it as often as Walters. Defensively Walters does work hard and he is usually in the right position, but he rarely stops the cross, which is the key job of the defensive wide man. Far too many crosses came in from our right in the second half; ultimately that cost us a point we really deserved.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Oct 26, 2013 22:34:51 GMT
I'm pretty certain Walters doesn't pick the team Hughes obviously sees something we don't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 22:36:02 GMT
Walters gets a lot of stick from stoke fans, no wonder he shits himself when he gets a chance. I think a bit of support would go a long way with him. He gets nothing but support where it matters. And if eejits on the Internet bother him then he's weak and shouldn't be a top flight sportsman. I don't believe for one second though that Walters is mentally weak.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 22:36:33 GMT
Absolutely right, Bayern. As I,ve said on another post, a proper striker would have given the goalie no chance. He had enough time and space to pick his spot, and just hit it, as per usual! NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!etc.
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Post by onionman on Oct 26, 2013 22:43:54 GMT
Yes, we needed him to score, but it wasn't a shocking miss. Better strikers than Jon Walters miss chances like that all the time. The difference is they usually score a few too which, sadly, Jon doesn't.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 26, 2013 22:43:59 GMT
Absolutely right, Bayern. As I,ve said on another post, a proper striker would have given the goalie no chance. He had enough time and space to pick his spot, and just hit it, as per usual! NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!etc. Good job he's not our striker then. Although he gets about that much he is getting blamed for not scoring AND not stopping them score!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2013 22:44:06 GMT
Absolutely right, Bayern. As I,ve said on another post, a proper striker would have given the goalie no chance. He had enough time and space to pick his spot, and just hit it, as per usual! NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!etc. Head down and twat it, a technique I've perfected me sen, usually to much more disastrous consequences!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 22:46:22 GMT
I think the general feeling over the season is he will frustrate us, and scoring a late winner against someone won't change people's minds. He'll never please everyone, it's just dull that the argument is dragged up every game.
It's hardly like Bowen reads the oatcake and relays to Sparky that Jon needs transfer listing because some fans aren't happy.
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