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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 15:54:54 GMT
Walters was a major reason for Pulis being sacked given he was central to everything shit about our game ie not scoring and creating fuck all. In fact if Pulis had used Pennant as opposed to Walters who knows he might still be in a job. Hughes needs to stop playing him otherwise he will find himself in a similar predicament which would be a shame. We aren't scoring enough and Walters is a major reason for that. Pennant! The one who couldn't even get in a sh*t Wolves side. As little as I like Hughes, I believe he has a far greater knowledge of football than someone who still gets hard over Tuncay. Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham just a few weeks ago meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 15:55:11 GMT
What makes Pennant and Assaidi worse options than Walters? What makes Mark Hughes a better judge than us? Decades spent involved in the game at the top level? It makes you wonder why the hell he re signed Pennant and loaned Assaidi, he must have seen the weakness in that position prior to that or the signings make no sense, to carry on with the same old same old when it must be obvious to him that it is not working defies logic doesn't matter if you are a seasoned professional or a casual football supporter does it. Walters not only missed a very good opportunity to score he also failed to cut out the cross which cost us ultimately what should have been a very good point yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 15:57:30 GMT
I like Jon Walters.
He is one of my favourite players.
He must be one of the best £3m we have ever spent at Stoke.
I am constantly amazed by all the criticism he gets (although I don't supposed I should be).
Chin up Jon; there are many Stoke fans who appreciate what you bring to the team. Ah bless
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 15:58:33 GMT
I like Jon Walters.
He is one of my favourite players.
He must be one of the best £3m we have ever spent at Stoke.
I am constantly amazed by all the criticism he gets (although I don't supposed I should be).
Chin up Jon; there are many Stoke fans who appreciate what you bring to the team. Pathetic
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 27, 2013 15:58:46 GMT
Pennant! The one who couldn't even get in a sh*t Wolves side. As little as I like Hughes, I believe he has a far greater knowledge of football than someone who still gets hard over Tuncay. Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. One free-kick, what about the rest of the 90 minutes? If we're talking important goals, what about the goals Walters scored to take us to Wembley? Don't they count?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:00:05 GMT
I like Jon Walters.
He is one of my favourite players.
He must be one of the best £3m we have ever spent at Stoke.
I am constantly amazed by all the criticism he gets (although I don't supposed I should be).
Chin up Jon; there are many Stoke fans who appreciate what you bring to the team. Pathetic Pathetic indeed, is this guy Tony Pulis.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:00:09 GMT
Pennant! The one who couldn't even get in a sh*t Wolves side. As little as I like Hughes, I believe he has a far greater knowledge of football than someone who still gets hard over Tuncay. Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. I doubt anyone considers Walters IS a better winger that Pennant WAS.
However, there are very few managers who TRUST Pennant to contribute as much as Walters does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:01:47 GMT
Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. One free-kick, what about the rest of the 90 minutes? If we're talking important goals, what about the goals Walters scored to take us to Wembley? Don't they count? Unfortunately Wembley was a long time ago in footballing terms, at the moment league goals are a lot more importance and Walters has scored how many this season so far.
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Post by redwhite on Oct 27, 2013 16:02:02 GMT
It's great how the few remaining defenders of Walters have got to the stage where they themselves don't even know what he's good at!
Now the only excuse is "two managers have picked him... so he must be good". Good grief, we may as well shut down this message board if we have to accept that everything the manager does is completely correct! Maybe we should accept everything politicians say as correct as well, given that they are the professionals!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 16:02:43 GMT
Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. One free-kick, what about the rest of the 90 minutes? If we're talking important goals, what about the goals Walters scored to take us to Wembley? Don't they count? The pro Walters brigade are becoming more and more hysterical by the week. Yeah let's try and justify Walters place in the current side by what he did during a 6 week period over 2 years ago. Christ talk about desperation and clutching at straws. Presumably you've deliberately dismissed the fact that Pennant was our most effective player during that period and was ultimately the only one who didn't look out of place in the cup final? Pennant won us the game a few weeks ago and has looked fairly good whenever he's played in the league this season.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:03:24 GMT
Pathetic indeed, is this guy Tony Pulis. No pal. I am not Tony Pulis; just a supporter who appears to have a different opinion from your own.
I thought that Walters played really well yesterday and contributed greatly to an encouraging Stoke performance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:03:58 GMT
Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. I doubt anyone considers Walters IS a better winger that Pennant WAS.
However, there are very few managers who TRUST Pennant to contribute as much as Walters does.WHY DID HE SIGN HIM BACK UP THEN, by the way in my opinion JP is ten times a better all round footballer than Walters.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 16:05:21 GMT
Yeah Pennant...the same guy who single handedly won us the game at West Ham meaning we aren't currently 19th in the table. You're a fucking idiot if you think Walters is a better right winger than Pennant. There is a reason why one has played in champions league finals for the worlds finest clubs while the other has spent most of his career in the lower leagues and has been made a laughing stock on numerous occasions- most notably for his miraculous ability to miss a penalty, score 2 own goals and kick the ball in his own face in less than 90 minutes of football. I doubt anyone considers Walters IS a better winger that Pennant WAS.
However, there are very few managers who TRUST Pennant to contribute as much as Walters does.It's a results business and Walters consistently fails to deliver. Pennant is one of very few players we have capable of producing match winning moments and either he or Assaidi need to be played instead of the donkey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:07:06 GMT
Pathetic indeed, is this guy Tony Pulis. No pal. I am not Tony Pulis; just a supporter who appears to have a different opinion from your own.
I thought that Walters played really well yesterday and contributed greatly to an encouraging Stoke performance.He also contributed greatly to losing a hard fought for point with both shit attacking and defending Pal.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:07:10 GMT
One free-kick, what about the rest of the 90 minutes? If we're talking important goals, what about the goals Walters scored to take us to Wembley? Don't they count? The pro Walters brigade are becoming more and more hysterical by the week. Yeah let's try and justify Walters place in the current side by what he did during a 6 week period over 2 years ago. Christ talk about desperation and clutching at straws. Presumably you've deliberately dismissed the fact that Pennant was our most effective player during that period and was ultimately the only one who didn't look out of place in the cup final? Pennant won us the game a few weeks ago and has looked fairly good whenever he's played in the league this season. It would seem that Pennant is not held in quite the esteem by a succession of managers as he is by your good self.
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 27, 2013 16:07:27 GMT
I would like to see us play once without Walters and truly see if we miss him and what it is we miss. Not a winger, not a striker and not a defender; I know what he isn't but not what he is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:08:27 GMT
I woul like to see us play once without Walters and truly see if we miss him and what it is we miss. Not a winger, not a striker and not a defender; I know what he isn't but not what he is. An enigma.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 16:08:31 GMT
It's great how the few remaining defenders of Walters have got to the stage where they themselves don't even know what he's good at! Now the only excuse is "two managers have picked him... so he must be good". Good grief, we may as well shut down this message board if we have to accept that everything the manager does is completely correct! Maybe we should accept everything politicians say as correct as well, given that they are the professionals! Enit. It's pretty amusing. They don't even know what their defending anymore. It reminds me of those who used to churn out the "look where we've come from" line in an attempt to justify Pulis's position as Stoke manager.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:09:13 GMT
The pro Walters brigade are becoming more and more hysterical by the week. Yeah let's try and justify Walters place in the current side by what he did during a 6 week period over 2 years ago. Christ talk about desperation and clutching at straws. Presumably you've deliberately dismissed the fact that Pennant was our most effective player during that period and was ultimately the only one who didn't look out of place in the cup final? Pennant won us the game a few weeks ago and has looked fairly good whenever he's played in the league this season. It would seem that Pennant is not held in quite the esteem by a succession of managers as he is by your good self.But both of them signed him WTF are you on.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:09:27 GMT
No pal. I am not Tony Pulis; just a supporter who appears to have a different opinion from your own.
I thought that Walters played really well yesterday and contributed greatly to an encouraging Stoke performance. He also contributed greatly to losing a hard fought for point with both shit attacking and defending Pal. That's a shock!
According to your previous contributions, I thought he lost it all by himself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:12:42 GMT
He also contributed greatly to losing a hard fought for point with both shit attacking and defending Pal. That's a shock!
According to your previous contributions, I thought he lost it all by himself.He took a lead role in us not taking anything from the game, as he has done in other games this season already not to mention last season.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:12:59 GMT
It would seem that Pennant is not held in quite the esteem by a succession of managers as he is by your good self. But both of them signed him WTF are you on. I am on nothing.
ALL of Pennant's managers have eventually got rid of him because of his inability to keep it together.
It will be very interesting to see how many games he gets under the current one.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:14:22 GMT
That's a shock!
According to your previous contributions, I thought he lost it all by himself. He took a lead role in us not taking anything from the game, as he has done in other games this season already not to mention last season. It is amazing then that he keeps getting selected.
I wonder why.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:15:43 GMT
But both of them signed him WTF are you on. I am on nothing.
ALL of Pennant's managers have eventually got rid of him because of his inability to keep it together.
It will be very interesting to see how many games he gets under the current one.
Very few if Hughes keeps picking Walters and I think we will be worse off for it, JP has the ability to win a match on his own, Walters has the ability to lose a match on his own I know which I would prefer.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 27, 2013 16:16:09 GMT
The pro Walters brigade are becoming more and more hysterical by the week. Yeah let's try and justify Walters place in the current side by what he did during a 6 week period over 2 years ago. Christ talk about desperation and clutching at straws. Presumably you've deliberately dismissed the fact that Pennant was our most effective player during that period and was ultimately the only one who didn't look out of place in the cup final? Pennant won us the game a few weeks ago and has looked fairly good whenever he's played in the league this season. It would seem that Pennant is not held in quite the esteem by a succession of managers as he is by your good self.In case you haven't noticed we are 17th in the league and Walters has been central to everything bad about our play this season- ie not scoring goals and fuck all attacking quality.... his penalty miss at Anfield, his miraculous 2 yard miss against Man City and his hopeless finish yesterday from 5 yards are just a few incidents...I haven't even started the list of defensive errors, which given he is in the team for his defensive work is pretty cringeworthy stuff. Now we've established he isn't great defensively and offers very little going forward would one of you clueless Walters rimming supporters care to tell me what Walters offers that makes him so undroppable. And don't say hard work. This is a results business.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:16:59 GMT
He took a lead role in us not taking anything from the game, as he has done in other games this season already not to mention last season. It is amazing then that he keeps getting selected.
I wonder why.Now that is a question thousands must be thinking.
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:17:33 GMT
I am on nothing.
ALL of Pennant's managers have eventually got rid of him because of his inability to keep it together.
It will be very interesting to see how many games he gets under the current one.
Very few if Hughes keeps picking Walters and I think we will be worse off for it, JP has the ability to win a match on his own, Walters has the ability to lose a match on his own I know which I would prefer. Really?
Hyperbole!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:21:24 GMT
Very few if Hughes keeps picking Walters and I think we will be worse off for it, JP has the ability to win a match on his own, Walters has the ability to lose a match on his own I know which I would prefer. Really?
Hyperbole!Is it an exaggeration to say that JP won us the game at West Ham ?, Walters lost us the game against Liverpool through his inability to score from the penalty spot that is not an exaggeration either, go figure Pal
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Post by phil51 on Oct 27, 2013 16:21:36 GMT
It would seem that Pennant is not held in quite the esteem by a succession of managers as he is by your good self. In case you haven't noticed we are 17th in the league and Walters has been central to everything bad about our play this season- ie not scoring goals and fuck all attacking quality.... his penalty miss at Anfield, his miraculous 2 yard miss against Man City and his hopeless finish yesterday from 5 yards are just a few incidents...I haven't even started the list of defensive errors, which given he is in the team for his defensive work is pretty cringeworthy stuff. Now we've established he isn't great defensively and offers very little going forward would one of you clueless Walters rimming supporters care to tell me what Walters offers that makes him so undroppable. And don't say hard work. This is a results business. Perhaps you haven't read the many explanations of what he contributes or perhaps you just ignore them.
What is really going on here is the sort of blinkered, agenda-driven criticism that has become so common amongst a few of our supporters recently.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 16:23:30 GMT
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