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Post by elystokie on Oct 26, 2013 22:49:02 GMT
I think the general feeling over the season is he will frustrate us, and scoring a late winner against someone won't change people's minds. He'll never please everyone, it's just dull that the argument is dragged up every game. It's hardly like Bowen reads the oatcake and relays to Sparky that Jon needs transfer listing because some fans aren't happy. So we just carry on watching him play shit every week and say nothing whilst he continues to cost us points?
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Oct 26, 2013 22:49:25 GMT
A striker who can't score. End of.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 22:50:28 GMT
I think the general feeling over the season is he will frustrate us, and scoring a late winner against someone won't change people's minds. He'll never please everyone, it's just dull that the argument is dragged up every game. It's hardly like Bowen reads the oatcake and relays to Sparky that Jon needs transfer listing because some fans aren't happy. So we just carry on watching him play shit every week and say nothing whilst he continues to cost us points? Aye, essentially. Would be a nice break.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Oct 26, 2013 22:52:23 GMT
We might think Danny Graham is shit because he can't score to save his life and wonder how or why he plays for his team.
This is probably what fans of all other teams think of our Jon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 23:05:02 GMT
So we just carry on watching him play shit every week and say nothing whilst he continues to cost us points? Aye, essentially. Would be a nice break. Lets face it he is toss whatever the job he is asked to carry out, absolute garbage end of.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 27, 2013 0:08:48 GMT
A striker who can't score. End of. How many times he IS NOT our striker
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Post by Bombus on Oct 27, 2013 0:11:18 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. OK I'll bite Walters is not a good prem footballer no siree but 'pathetic excuse of a player'? Fuck me when I think of some of the players (I & everyone else who has watched Stoke longer than the last 5 years) - & we are talking 3 figures here - who have been worse & much worse than Walters how exactly would you describe them? Walters is on a good day (like today) a useful option & on a bad day (like last week for e.g.) not a good option. Stoke pay average wages so we are going to get average players. Having seen plenty of 'better' players not a give a shit whilst pulling on the red & white I think Walters at the very least warrants a modicum of respect from supporters even when moaning about him. If you think he shouldnt be in the side fair do's however there is only one obvious pathetic excuse re Stoke City today & it isnt him. I'd say that's pretty much spot on, mate. Fully agree.
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Post by mvtt on Oct 27, 2013 3:00:17 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today? Not at all. I wish he could've put a goal away but certainly a very good performance at least. I've been less than impressed with him this season but today was another story altogether.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 8:40:25 GMT
A striker who can't score. End of. How many times he IS NOT our striker So why are some calling for him to play up front, he is crap wherever he plays an indictment to the money wasted by his lover Pulis, the reason why this clown is still at the club.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 27, 2013 8:47:18 GMT
How many times he IS NOT our striker So why are some calling for him to play up front, he is crap wherever he plays an indictment to the money wasted by his lover Pulis, the reason why this clown is still at the club. Walters isn't a clown and he's been a great servant to the club , he always plays to the maximum of his admittedly limited ability , I'd pick him every time over others such as jones who choose to stay in their comfort zone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 8:59:26 GMT
I don't for one minute believe that Walters should be starting for us and he has been guilty of missing sitters this season. Am I the only one who thinks that his chance yesterday,whilst being a good one,wasn't as big a sitter as people are saying?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 27, 2013 9:02:22 GMT
I don't for one minute believe that Walters should be starting for us and he has been guilty of missing sitters this season. Am I the only one who thinks that his chance yesterday,whilst being a good one,wasn't as big a sitter as people are saying? It wasn't a sitter but a very good chance and a mediocre effort. Would a decent Prem striker have missed it? No!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 9:19:27 GMT
So why are some calling for him to play up front, he is crap wherever he plays an indictment to the money wasted by his lover Pulis, the reason why this clown is still at the club. Walters isn't a clown and he's been a great servant to the club , he always plays to the maximum of his admittedly limited ability , I'd pick him every time over others such as jones who choose to stay in their comfort zone I think the words has been sum the Walters situation up, he played well for us about 3 years ago for 3 months I will give you that, he is now become a liability wherever he is played, considering £100 million has been invested by the Coates family you would have expected more than a player who runs about a lot continuing to be a nailed on starter.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Oct 27, 2013 9:28:10 GMT
Walters isn't a clown and he's been a great servant to the club , he always plays to the maximum of his admittedly limited ability , I'd pick him every time over others such as jones who choose to stay in their comfort zone I think the words has been sum the Walters situation up, he played well for us about 3 years ago for 3 months I will give you that, he is now become a liability wherever he is played, considering £100 million has been invested by the Coates family yo u would have expected more than a player who runs about a lot continuing to be a nailed on starter.It seems that two managers dont agree that Walters shouldnt be playing. If one continually picked him we could all cry "favouritism" but two? Its obvious that neither Manager thinks there is anyone better to pick than him ... I for one dont agree that we havent got eleven players better than SJW to pick from yet here we are again with him shoed in. Perhaps his puppy dog eyes are just to much for the Managers to drop him. Attachment Deleted
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Post by jeycov on Oct 27, 2013 9:47:41 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today? Not at all. I wish he could've put a goal away but certainly a very good performance at least. I've been less than impressed with him this season but today was another story altogether. Totally agree. He missed his chance - in fact it would have been better if he had mis hit it, but fair play to De Gea for being alert and producing a very good block. No one following up unlike the Van Persie goal at the other end! The SNF full coverage of the game showed just how hard Walters worked, having to drop back and cover ground for Wilson. With Ireland and Palcios tiring, no Arnie, he prevented several good opportunities for Man Utd. SJW hasn't been the only striker to miss good chances. His penalty v Liverpool was poor and his confidence is still low imo. He does need a rest but would be a great impact sub at the moment imo. Start Assaidi? and have Walters on the bench is a possible alternative
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Post by cartman123 on Oct 27, 2013 9:51:53 GMT
Not at all. I wish he could've put a goal away but certainly a very good performance at least. I've been less than impressed with him this season but today was another story altogether. Totally agree. He missed his chance - in fact it would have been better if he had mis hit it, but fair play to De Gea for being alert and producing a very good block. No one following up unlike the Van Persie goal at the other end! The SNF full coverage of the game showed just how hard Walters worked, having to drop back and cover ground for Wilson. With Ireland and Palcios tiring, no Arnie, he prevented several good opportunities for Man Utd. SJW hasn't been the only striker to miss good chances. His penalty v Liverpool was poor and his confidence is still low imo. He does need a rest but would be a great impact sub at the moment imo. Start Assaidi? and have Walters on the bench is a possible alternative Rubbish. He doesn't prevent anything. He slows down attacks and is generally just shit. He's not the only player that tracks back, Arnie does too but he can do something the other end, Walters can't. He needs to be dropped. I said at the beginning if he plays majority of games this season we will go down. That's looking a good bet right now.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 27, 2013 9:54:24 GMT
Am I really the only one on here who thinks Jon had a great first half and played better than we've seen him play in a long time today? Not at all. I wish he could've put a goal away but certainly a very good performance at least. I've been less than impressed with him this season but today was another story altogether. We share the exact same view then, mate
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 27, 2013 9:57:39 GMT
If Walters is Premiership class,then there must be some world class players in the Championship, because there are far better players in the Championship than Walters.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 27, 2013 10:02:08 GMT
Walters isn't a clown and he's been a great servant to the club , he always plays to the maximum of his admittedly limited ability , I'd pick him every time over others such as jones who choose to stay in their comfort zone I think the words has been sum the Walters situation up, he played well for us about 3 years ago for 3 months I will give you that, he is now become a liability wherever he is played, considering £100 million has been invested by the Coates family you would have expected more than a player who runs about a lot continuing to be a nailed on starter. I'm not saying he's un droppable , of the £100m spent Walters fee 2/3 mil I'm guessing has been great value for money compared to a lot of others . The fact that Hughes continues to play Walters isn't a coincidence . As I've said he has limited ability and in time as the the squad strengthens he will be on the bench . The fact that he's not a striker but is constantly treated as one says more about our weakness in that area than his shortcomings
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 10:13:47 GMT
I don't for one minute believe that Walters should be starting for us and he has been guilty of missing sitters this season. Am I the only one who thinks that his chance yesterday,whilst being a good one,wasn't as big a sitter as people are saying? It wasn't a sitter but a very good chance and a mediocre effort. Would a decent Prem striker have missed it? No! I wouldn't have fancied Crouch or KJ for it either. It wasn't a glaring miss but he should've scored.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 10:18:12 GMT
It wasn't a sitter but a very good chance and a mediocre effort. Would a decent Prem striker have missed it? No! I wouldn't have fancied Crouch or KJ for it either. It wasn't a glaring miss but he should've scored. At this level those are the kind of chances we should be putting away, I agree though Walters has missed much easier chances this season already and will continue to do so as he did last season.
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Post by jeycov on Oct 27, 2013 10:46:06 GMT
Totally agree. He missed his chance - in fact it would have been better if he had mis hit it, but fair play to De Gea for being alert and producing a very good block. No one following up unlike the Van Persie goal at the other end! The SNF full coverage of the game showed just how hard Walters worked, having to drop back and cover ground for Wilson. With Ireland and Palcios tiring, no Arnie, he prevented several good opportunities for Man Utd. SJW hasn't been the only striker to miss good chances. His penalty v Liverpool was poor and his confidence is still low imo. He does need a rest but would be a great impact sub at the moment imo. Start Assaidi? and have Walters on the bench is a possible alternative Rubbish. He doesn't prevent anything. He slows down attacks and is generally just shit. He's not the only player that tracks back, Arnie does too but he can do something the other end, Walters can't. He needs to be dropped. I said at the beginning if he plays majority of games this season we will go down. That's looking a good bet right now. Fair enough but's it's my opinion. I stand by the comment that he wasn't the only player to miss a good chance, e.g. Crouch. The chance was made by Walters He did more than track back yesterday he cut out several potential crosses. Defenders were responsible for their goals. I also mention that he should be on the bench. I'm sure that both of us want our team to win even if we have differing opinions on how that happens
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Post by thevoid on Oct 27, 2013 10:49:57 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. Trust me, I've seen a lot worse down the years (Keith Scott anyone?), but they haven't made 100 consecutive appearances for the club. The bloke's cost us more points than he's gained us recently and it's getting beyond a joke. The sooner TP gets another job and offers him a reunion the better.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 27, 2013 10:57:51 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer. Really have to go that far? I'm being kind. His main attribute is he runs around a lot. Forrest Gump could do that.
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Post by redwhite on Oct 27, 2013 11:01:17 GMT
A striker who can't score. End of. How many times he IS NOT our striker The fact that he isn't played as a striker means fuck all. Fair enough if he was being played out of position and thus wasn't getting chances to put away, but that isn't the case. He continually misses simple chances right wing, striker, wherever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 11:01:35 GMT
Rubbish. He doesn't prevent anything. He slows down attacks and is generally just shit. He's not the only player that tracks back, Arnie does too but he can do something the other end, Walters can't. He needs to be dropped. I said at the beginning if he plays majority of games this season we will go down. That's looking a good bet right now. Fair enough but's it's my opinion. I stand by the comment that he wasn't the only player to miss a good chance, e.g. Crouch. The chance was made by Walters He did more than track back yesterday he cut out several potential crosses. Defenders were responsible for their goals. I also mention that he should be on the bench. I'm sure that both of us want our team to win even if we have differing opinions on how that happens The winning goal was a direct result of a cross that should have been cut out easily, the man who should have cut it out was Walters if he is in the team for his defensive abilities that instance proves that we are in the shit big time, I do not agree he should not be any where near the squad let alone on the bench, he is not an impact player.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 27, 2013 11:06:52 GMT
How many times he IS NOT our striker The fact that he isn't played as a striker means fuck all. Fair enough if he was being played out of position and thus wasn't getting chances to put away, but that isn't the case. He continually misses simple chances right wing, striker, wherever. Well at least he's in the position to get the chances, none of our other wingers have been.
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Post by redwhite on Oct 27, 2013 11:15:13 GMT
The fact that he isn't played as a striker means fuck all. Fair enough if he was being played out of position and thus wasn't getting chances to put away, but that isn't the case. He continually misses simple chances right wing, striker, wherever. Well at least he's in the position to get the chances, none of our other wingers have been. What's the use of being the man at the end of some good play when you're utterly incapable of scoring? Arnautovic and Assaidi have both scored a good number of goals from the wing in the past and are miles better than Walters in every department apart from marathon running.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 27, 2013 11:18:32 GMT
The fact that he isn't played as a striker means fuck all. Fair enough if he was being played out of position and thus wasn't getting chances to put away, but that isn't the case. He continually misses simple chances right wing, striker, wherever. Well at least he's in the position to get the chances, none of our other wingers have been. Exactly what I was going to say
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Post by shiftyfifty on Oct 27, 2013 11:27:04 GMT
Well at least he's in the position to get the chances, none of our other wingers have been. What's the use of being the man at the end of some good play when you're utterly incapable of scoring? Arnautovic and Assaidi have both scored a good number of goals from the wing in the past and are miles better than Walters in every department apart from marathon running. In the past? In that case so has Walters whose goals helped to get us to Wembley.
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