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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 10, 2012 23:23:45 GMT
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Post by stokie12345 on Jul 10, 2012 23:29:09 GMT
Fucking dreadful if true. How fucking dare they. Ryan should turn them down flat.
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Post by potters63 on Jul 10, 2012 23:41:06 GMT
And that's why Wales are and always will be a shit team. It's not like they have a massive pool of talent to choose from at the end of the day. Fuck Aaron Ramsey, anyone would think that he's the first person to break there leg playing football the way everyone is kissing his arse.
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Post by dime on Jul 10, 2012 23:41:43 GMT
Agreed, he should tell them to fuck right off, Ramsey isn't the manager, it (if true) is devaluing Ryan as a player, national squads should be picked on the basis of whats best for the team, why would an incident that happened ages ago have any impact?
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Post by potters63 on Jul 10, 2012 23:49:33 GMT
Agreed, he should tell them to fuck right off, Ramsey isn't the manager, it (if true) is devaluing Ryan as a player, national squads should be picked on the basis of whats best for the team, why would an incident that happened ages ago have any impact? Well said
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Post by stockportstokie on Jul 10, 2012 23:52:48 GMT
Because the history of the England team hasn't been riddled with player rivalries
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 10, 2012 23:59:53 GMT
He broke his leg in a 50-50 collision. Big deal. In this day and age it was never going to threaten his career and he's come back as good (or should that be mediocre?) as ever before.
As any sane man knows, if Shawcross and Ramsey were to meet in the same squad then Aaron Ramsey owes Ryan Shawcross a very, very sincere apology for his hysterical, undignified behaviour. I'm still waiting for Arsene Wenger to issue an official apology for some of the scandalous lies he's issued about Stoke City.
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Post by robhh83 on Jul 11, 2012 0:40:22 GMT
First post....be kind Agree with Coleman's sentiments with regards to wanting the best players for Wales however, and it is a BIG however, would Ryan even be interested? Look at the current England squad and those set to replace the likes of Terry and is our skipper that far off? What really annoys me with this article is the reference to a reckless challenge...was I watching a different game? Ramsey may not have officially accepted Ryan's apology but I'd guess that the reason for this is that it'd show Wenger to be the complete tit he is... Looking forward to welcoming the Arse to the Brit.....
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 11, 2012 5:35:38 GMT
That's made Ryan's decision a very straight forward and unequivocal One ,fuck off to both of you
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Post by StokieSC on Jul 11, 2012 5:40:25 GMT
Poor little Aaron.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 11, 2012 5:54:24 GMT
Poor judgement IMO by coleman these things are best done on the QT certainly not in a statement to the media . A quiet word with Ramsey at a training session . " we all know what happened ". States Coleman , just perpetuating the Wenger point of view . Yes we all know what happened , a very unlucky outcome to a 50/50 challenge
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Post by stokeox11 on Jul 11, 2012 6:38:09 GMT
Don't bother Ryan. You would have got the ball first if Bendtner had not pulled you back, typical dirty horrible arse player that he is. Ramsey is another whining product of that revolting club. As for that french muppet in charge I can't wait to see him and his bunch of tossers at the Brit! I cannot put into words my hatred of that club and cheer on anyone who plays them. My dream would be to look at the fixtures and see they are playing the Burslem tossers in a relegation 6 pointer in the Blue Square. I would die a happy man.
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Post by stone6 on Jul 11, 2012 6:49:28 GMT
Don't bother Ryan. You would have got the ball first if Bendtner had not pulled you back, typical dirty horrible arse player that he is. Ramsey is another whining product of that revolting club. As for that french muppet in charge I can't wait to see him and his bunch of tossers at the Brit! I cannot put into words my hatred of that club and cheer on anyone who plays them. My dream would be to look at the fixtures and see they are playing the Burslem tossers in a relegation 6 pointer in the Blue Square. I would die a happy man. I couldn't agree more.
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Post by armitagestokie on Jul 11, 2012 7:15:32 GMT
The cheek of it. You tell him bollocks Ryan.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 11, 2012 7:21:25 GMT
Unbelievable.
Why should Ramsey have a say on Ryan, fucking lunacy beyond belief if true.
Ryan should tell Coleman and Ramsey to go fuck themselves if thats how they want to play it. Ramsey isnt even that good anyhow, he aint no Messi.
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 11, 2012 7:24:59 GMT
There is no chance Ryan will agree to play for Wales and it pissed be off how the article described it as a reckless lunge- how about no... we all know Ramseys foot has half way gone before Ryan's attempt to kick the ball. So a big fat fuck off to Coleman
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Post by manchesterpotter on Jul 11, 2012 7:29:12 GMT
Why would he want to play for Wales, anyway?
It's not as if he'd stand much of a chance of playing in the Euros or the World Cup. I can't see the appeal of playing friendlies against the Faroe Islands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 7:46:15 GMT
Treated like he's killed someone for what was nothing more than an accident in the kind of 50/50 challenge you see week in, week out.
Shawcross should tell Coleman to fuck himself.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 11, 2012 7:47:19 GMT
Utterly ridiculous
Poor form from Coleman IMO
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Post by fca47 on Jul 11, 2012 7:48:36 GMT
Would have been a good move for Ryan. But making it public like this has probably killed it. What a stupid thing to make a public announcement like this. Coleman, you tool.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jul 11, 2012 7:51:13 GMT
Why shouldn't he consult his team Captain? I for one think he's got it right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 7:52:59 GMT
Why shouldn't he consult his team Captain? I for one think he's got it right. Should the England manager have consulted JT on every selection all those years he was captain?
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 11, 2012 7:53:31 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18786041On the BBC website now, doubt it will go unnoticed by Ryan. Was there any need for Coleman to do it. Stupid. Having seen 'Rambo's' reaction so far I imagine he'd be a cunt about it even if it was to the detriment of his national side.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 11, 2012 7:53:41 GMT
Treated like he's killed someone for what was nothing more than an accident in the kind of 50/50 challenge you see week in, week out. Shawcross should tell Coleman to fuck himself. That's a superb, succinct appraisal of the situation. The celebrity obsessed, hyperbole loving 'queen of hearts' age we live in really is dreadful at times.
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Post by tazi on Jul 11, 2012 7:54:04 GMT
What a joke...
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 11, 2012 7:56:22 GMT
Why shouldn't he consult his team Captain? I for one think he's got it right. Ramsey kicked off when the FAW didn't consult him over who the new manger would be. He needs to learn his place. Do you think Ryan tells Pulis who he should and shouldn't bring in to the club?
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jul 11, 2012 7:57:19 GMT
Why shouldn't he consult his team Captain? I for one think he's got it right. Should the England manager have consulted JT on every selection all those years he was captain? I think you'll find most managers have a chat with their team captain about team selection, its part of the captains role
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 11, 2012 7:59:25 GMT
Should the England manager have consulted JT on every selection all those years he was captain? I think you'll find most managers have a chat with their team captain about team selection, its part of the captains role I think you're confusing football with Cricket or Rugby perhaps. Very rare it happens to any extent in football. Does Fergie consult Nemanja Vidic or Rio Ferdinand? I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 8:02:00 GMT
Should the England manager have consulted JT on every selection all those years he was captain? I think you'll find most managers have a chat with their team captain about team selection, its part of the captains role Tactical input maybe. I doubt they let their captain dictate who can and can't be called up. The buck stops with the manager.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jul 11, 2012 8:02:49 GMT
I think you'll find most managers have a chat with their team captain about team selection, its part of the captains role I think you're confusing football with Cricket or Rugby perhaps. Very rare it happens to any extent in football. Does Fergie consult Nemanja Vidic or Rio Ferdinand? I doubt it. It doesnt matter what the game is, team captains have a role that is not only on the pitch, wicket or course etc.
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