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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 17:59:56 GMT
2 all:
Congratulations with 1-0 vs West Brom!!!
Dynamo also won today vs our big friends Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (away)!
It s 4-0! (Popov, Milevsky, Yarmolenko - 2).
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 18:09:12 GMT
hi, andy! are you asking about night 14.09 or day before the game? tell me what are you interested in? my advice - some sightseeing at daytime (central part of the city) + dinner-break at some nice Ukrainian pub or little restaurant, than some football  and than... back to the pub?! |
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Post by stokief on Aug 28, 2011 18:09:25 GMT
Thanks den. It's fair to say we have a little 'history' with West Brom. ;D
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 18:11:49 GMT
i didn t know that, stokie.
are they your rivals?
we won today vs our BIG friends, so i think 4-0 is too much...
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Post by stokief on Aug 28, 2011 18:18:06 GMT
Let's just say that over the years (quite a few actually  ) results have not gone their way against us. It's only a matter of time before that changes I'm sure but even some of their fans are now resigned to it! They are nearish neighbours aswell so I guess that makes it worse for them!  |
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Post by robinredcoat on Aug 28, 2011 18:23:00 GMT
2 all: Congratulations with 1-0 vs West Brom!!! Dynamo also won today vs our big friends Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (away)! It s 4-0! (Popov, Milevsky, Yarmolenko - 2). Thanks and congratulations to Dynamo today as well, 4-0 away from home is an excellent result. |
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Post by andystokey on Aug 28, 2011 18:26:47 GMT
hi, andy! are you asking about night 14.09 or day before the game? tell me what are you interested in? my advice - some sightseeing at daytime (central part of the city) + dinner-break at some nice Ukrainian pub or little restaurant, than some football and than... back to the pub?! not much time on the 14th just the 15th to be honest anything would be good just to say we saw Kiev and not just the inside of a bar :-D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 18:28:00 GMT
Я поддерживаю Динамо с детства - мне 29 лет. Лучшие сезоны Динамо: середина 70-х годов (1975 - Кубок обладателей Кубков и Суперкубок УЕФА), середина 80-х (1986 - Кубок обладателей Кубков) и конец 90-х (четверьфинал, а потом полуфинал Лиги Чемпионов). "Мое" Динамо - как-раз Динамо 90-х годов. А любимые игроки - Шовковский (вратарь), Лужный (после Динамо играл в лондонском Арсенале), Шевченко, Ребров. Я веру у Динама еще раз отличний футбольний клюб (чтобы опять победть Арсенал :-)) Я рада за большие победы Динамо сегодня. Тоже, если ты хочешь подарок от Сток Сити, писай мне 'ПМ' Stokies...if you want to travel on overnight train anywhere,i fully recommend you either get somebody to buy from the station in kiev for you,or take the risk to get tickets yourself. For example,my 600km trips to Lviv...many websites will be happy quote you £200. Actual cost from station about £20! Nowt better than a 10 hour overnight train in the middle of winter on a big ass carriage!! Travel is ridiculously cheap. Anywhere on the metro cost 2 uan (14p!) bus between 1.75 and 2.5 uan |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 18:39:24 GMT
hi, andy! are you asking about night 14.09 or day before the game? tell me what are you interested in? my advice - some sightseeing at daytime (central part of the city) + dinner-break at some nice Ukrainian pub or little restaurant, than some football and than... back to the pub?! not much time on the 14th just the 15th to be honest anything would be good just to say we saw Kiev and not just the inside of a bar :-D Independence square, Mikhailovski square and nearby St Sophia and St Micheals Cathedrals, Kreshatic, National Opera House, Motherland Statue, the Golden Gate (ABSOLUTE must), the Monastery of Caves, the Old Town and on to Podil...there's wayyy too many places to list for such a short time. |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 19:37:41 GMT
rob: thanx a lot! andy: katie wrote great route for you! i just add that you may also like to visit Andriyivskyi Uzviz (Andrews Descent) - very interesting old street just near the Mikhailovski square - that s how Kyiv streets looked like 100 or even 150 years ago. But be ready for some good walking! |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 19:40:32 GMT
about Katie s advice about trains inside Ukraine & travelling - she s right! tickets are really cheap!
so, if you need help buying them in Kyiv - ask!
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 19:47:31 GMT
about pubs:
we have lots of English-type pubs in Kyiv & you sure may visit them for some beer, but my advice - at least once try something unusual for you, something Ukrainian.
Drink local beer, try local food (Ukrainian borsch & vareniki - the must), visit some authentic place (from some local fast-food to expensive restaurant - depends on your budget).
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 28, 2011 19:54:34 GMT
katie
Спасибо большое! Дякую (thanx in Ukrainian - Dyakuyu)
Хороший подарок - хорошая игра наших команд!
Приятно, что тебе нравится в Киеве и в Украине!
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Post by andystokey on Aug 28, 2011 20:06:30 GMT
cheers Katie
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Post by robinredcoat on Aug 28, 2011 20:08:16 GMT
about pubs: we have lots of English-type pubs in Kyiv & you sure may visit them for some beer, but my advice - at least once try something unusual for you, something Ukrainian. Drink local beer, try local food (Ukrainian borsch & vareniki - the must), visit some authentic place (from some local fast-food to expensive restaurant - depends on your budget). Thanks for all the help and information etc. Could you suggest a good area perhaps in the centre of the city where perhaps it would be a good place for groups to gather, perhaps where there are a few good places to drink and eat? That would be a good place perhaps for us to meet and have a beer and something to eat? |
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Post by robinredcoat on Aug 28, 2011 20:11:54 GMT
not much time on the 14th just the 15th to be honest anything would be good just to say we saw Kiev and not just the inside of a bar :-D Independence square, Mikhailovski square and nearby St Sophia and St Micheals Cathedrals, Kreshatic, National Opera House, Motherland Statue, the Golden Gate (ABSOLUTE must), the Monastery of Caves, the Old Town and on to Podil...there's wayyy too many places to list for such a short time. Thanks for the recommendations, they sound great, are they all fairly central. I looked up a few on the maps and it seems they are all within easy distance of the centre etc, but its hard to tell from a map. Also i plan to get a good guide book before I go out, are there any you found particularly useful or could recommend? (sorry for the barrage of questions, getting really into the trip at the moment.) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 22:42:38 GMT
Thanks for the recommendations, they sound great, are they all fairly central. I looked up a few on the maps and it seems they are all within easy distance of the centre etc, but its hard to tell from a map. Also i plan to get a good guide book before I go out, are there any you found particularly useful or could recommend? (sorry for the barrage of questions, getting really into the trip at the moment.) No probs, you're right to be getting in to it and I'm happy to help (as you might be able to tell...I'm quite passionate about Ukraine and Kiev, so more than happy to spread the word!) I wouldnt know about any particular guides, with living and working there for extended periods each year, I just get to know the city really with friends and colleagues. They're all pretty centralish, at most maybe a few stops on the Metro here and there if needed. My recommends for a couple of restaurants... For an Italian, the Olivia. It is on 'Комінтерну вул.' which is pretty much a straight walk up from the train station. Very tasty food, reasonable price. The 'Царське село' is a traditional ukrainian on 'Ivana Mazepy'. Beautiful little place, folk singing, greatly recommend that you take a walk to this place, via a few of the tourist destinations. My first walk I was taken from started at Independence Square and a trek all the way through to here. I did have the advantage of a local person taking me! Website for info is www.tsarske.kiev.ua/en/about/shortly. This place is just a short trip for me from my apartment I have over there. If you really want to treat yourself, then find your way to the new (opened about 3 months ago or so) 'BEEF мясо & вино' (Meat and Wine) restaurant at 'Shota Rustaveli 11'. Be prepared to pay top hrivna for the food, but OMG it is worth it. Outside the windows you'll see a Ferrari dealership, and this restaurant is in the same class food wise. I had a Caesar salad, which was a big dish, plenty of food, very well presented and the food (almost) literally made my giney tingle!! Salads in general are so freshly made anyway, but it was just exquisite. If you dont mind paying for top quality food, then DEFINITELY try this place, then come back on here afterwards and tell me how right I am! Website www.beef.kiev.ua Sushi...a more expensive option is situated very close to the above restaurant. Stand at the corner of the crossroad so that the Beef Retaurant is across to your left, Ferrari dealership in front of you, and the Sushi place 'Ikra Oyster Club' is just up the road (Pan’kivska 11) to your right (not the place directly across road from the Beef restaurant...dont get confused!) For a couple of cheaper places, you could head to the complex at the corner of Kudryashova Street and Uritskoho Street which is a Delilah away from the train station (the end with a chapel outside of it). In here there's a ground floor cafe with a pool table, couple of snooker tables, and a cinema too if you fancy taking in a film (dubbed over in Ukrainian of course  Or, head over to the trade centre close to the Minska (Мінська) metro station. There's either three of 4 floors, loads of shops to pick up a few bargains, find the tea shop there and bring a selection back, and on the top floor you'll see a big seated area with a load of places to eat around, and also a few other places dotted around. This is good place especially if you're taking your kids. |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 13:08:07 GMT
Hello again, guys, and GREAT thanx to Katie whose words about Kyiv are so pleasant! Yes, almost all the places - mentioned by Katie - are within a short distance! The main street of Kyiv is Khreschatik (distance about 1,2 km). Khreschatik Str. begins from the Independence square (Maidan Nezalezhnosti) and ends near the famous Bessarabskiy market (there you may buy sthg original like Ukrainian national dish "salo" - salted pigs fat - very tasty and i think unusual for you:)) BTW Independence square is about 5 minutes walking from Dynamo stadium. Sofiyska square and Mikhaylivska square are just 5-7 minutes walk from Khreschatik Str. Notice that Kyiv is the city on the hills - so be ready for some up-and-down walking possible places to meet before the game (to eat and to drink some beer): if your budget is LOW - my advice "2 ГУСЯ" (2 gooses) at Khreschatik Str. 7/11 (http://dvagusya.ua). Average check (meat, potatoes, vegetables, 2 beers + coffee or tea with dessert) about 6-7 euros. if you like sushi - my advice "СУШИЯ" (Sushiya) at Gorodetskoho Str. 2 or Grushevskoho Str. 4 (this one is just in front of Dynamo stadium!). Very tasty food! Average check (soup, sushi + 2-3 beers + dessert) about 15 euros (www.sushiya.ua). if you like to feel local culture & cuisine - my advice "ЧЕРВОНА КАЛИНА" (Chervona kalina - that means Red guelder rose) at Generala Vatutina Ave. in the People s friendship park. This one can be reached by taxi but it s really nice place! A restaurant at the bank of Dnipro river with green territory and small hotel-complex! I like this place! (http://www.chervonakalina.com.ua/en/) |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 13:41:09 GMT
so, rob, andy - how about "Sushiya" as a place to meet for a beer and than to decide what to do?
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Post by PenkhullStokie on Aug 29, 2011 13:51:32 GMT
Shevchenko vs Huth.
Interesting ;D
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 13:58:52 GMT
Sheva is 34, but he is still one of the best in Dynamo.
I think he should play now for about 60-70 minutes...
And it s not easy for the defenders to play vs him!
Anyway I wish he played at home-Euro-2012 in a national team! He deserved it!
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 29, 2011 13:59:14 GMT
welcome den!!! looking forward to playing you.... just one question... what do you know about stoke already???
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 14:12:21 GMT
hi! not much really!! but i like talking to Stoke supporters! really nice! & i am almost ready to support Stoke in English Premier League! |
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 29, 2011 15:36:17 GMT
hi! not much really!! but i like talking to Stoke supporters! really nice! & i am almost ready to support Stoke in English Premier League! haha... well, here is our game against arsenal last season (top) and fans (middle) who are alot different to yours and other European teams, no flares or banners... just straight from the heart singing (this is at an away match so you know what to expect when we come to kyiv ) and our stadium, the britannia (bottom) we usually fill it on most premier league games. the away end is to the right of the picture. it is usually split in 2 with netting and stewards (this moves depending on how many supporters the away side brings, the stoke fans fill the rest) natterfootball.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/britannia-stadium-21.jpgif you have any questions on anything i will be pleased to help |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 15:44:01 GMT
you know i like when a team consists mostly of local players. can such be said about Stoke? i looked at your squad at of. site & i think you have mostly English players, yea? are some of them from Stoke? how many Stoke supporters usually visit away games in England? & what do you know about Dynamo & about Kyiv? have some of your friends been to Ukraine before? thanx!!
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 29, 2011 15:54:34 GMT
you know i like when a team consists mostly of local players. can such be said about Stoke? i looked at your squad at of. site & i think you have mostly English players, yea? are some of them from Stoke? currently only 2 of our players are from stoke, andy wilkinson and ryan shotton. they are both defenders. shotton scored yesterday when we beat west brom 0-1. many of our players are from england though because these tend to be tougher than players from other countries. (our manager likes his tough, strong players. there is lots of tough but fair tackling in our matches which european teams dont like) we have had lots of injuries though and our squad is very small. we have 2 great english wingers, matthew etherington and jermaine pennant. these are very fast and skillful and cause defenders problems. they have both been involved with the english national team in the past. jon walters is our only regular english striker. he works harder than you will have ever seen a player work. he is also surprisingly skillful and strong. |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Aug 29, 2011 15:56:37 GMT
Den,
Im all booked up for the trip - But we havent booked our hotel in Kyiv just yet.
Were staying Thursday as we fly back from Kyiv Borispol airport, we dont want to hire a car (i cant be arsed to drive ;D ) so any decent hotels near to the airport / inbetween your stadium and the airport?
How much is it to catch a Taxi as well?
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 29, 2011 16:01:56 GMT
you know i like when a team consists mostly of local players. can such be said about Stoke? i looked at your squad at of. site & i think you have mostly English players, yea? are some of them from Stoke? how many Stoke supporters usually visit away games in England? & what do you know about Dynamo & about Kyiv? have some of your friends been to Ukraine before? thanx!! on your question about away games it depends on how big the game is and how far away it is (and how expensive) to some games close we will fill our seats and sell 5,000 tickets. on games further away we take less but the number of fans rarely drops below 750. i know of dynamo and watched them play in the champions league. i remamber you played against arsenal?? i cant remember the score though. i also dont know much of your team (shevchenko aside) i dont know much about kyiv though and have never been myself. i dont know anyone who has been either... ??? |
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 16:06:28 GMT
Volvic,
the airport is 20 minutes (by car) from the city & the stadium is in the central part. So, i d recommend you some hotel in the centre because it would be cheaper to take a taxi twice (from airport & to airport).
tell me what price is ok for you for a hotel?
and should it be a hotel or a flat?
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Post by denfcdk on Aug 29, 2011 16:11:49 GMT
stokie great amount for away games! you see, our away attendence also depends on the distances and money. + Ukraine is large and our closest away is Poltava (about 450 km). but you (England) have this culture of supporting your team on the away matches! that s what i like! here in Ukraine less people even think about following their teams on the aways. but we try to change it! |
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and than... back to the pub?!
) results have not gone their way against us. It's only a matter of time before that changes I'm sure but even some of their fans are now resigned to it! 
