There is a lot of water still to flow under the bridge.
It's nice to see that you're on board with this potential appointment March. That's why it simply MUST happen as it'll galvanize 99.9 % of the supporters. Something that hasn't been the case since the Macari era perhaps ?
This is just a thought , no snippets of info , no associates in the know , just my own innane musings .... But what about Sven ? I could handle that I think , I've no idea how old he is now ? But he did ok at Man City if I remember ...
Only way to get rid of Hughes is by letting the board know we don't like him. I won't support the manager sorry.
I think that process had already begun at the end of the Newcastle game with the boos and hughes out chants. Once the majority of the fans turn then he's pretty much a dead man walking but if the board ignore the fans and continue to keep the manager in place and there is no clear signs of a turn a round it will become more and more toxic then the board will be forced to act or risk fans turning on them.
I agree to a certain extent . For instance the next goal against us , will result in rightful booing and calling for heads to roll . I was there at Birmingham at home 0-7. Is there a way to support the team without overtly supporting the management ?
It's a wake up really . To all of us as supporters and fans . There's nowt we can do about the boardroom decisions unfortunately. The only thing in our POWER , and we really do have POWER is to support or not . It's up to us...
It's nowt to do with the management Ric. It's just getting back to being proper behind the red and white stripes . I'm pretty disappointed myself at the decision to stick , but what do we do about it matey 👍. Just remember what being a Stokie is....
WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE ,....... WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STO-OKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE , WE ARE STOKE . We ARE stoke !!!!
Just let that sink in for a min.
WE ARE STOKE .... What does it mean to be stoke ? It used to mean , and it STILL means , that you love every player that pulls on a red and white striped shirt . You cheer " hooray " or a "waaaay" whenever the announcer announces their name.Or a " huuutttth , or dooobbbbs ". You booooo the opposition players names as they're announced floating balls about in a warm up in their sky blue , white , blue ,yellow n green , purple with moave trim shorts , get in a huddle , switch ends at kick off , crack a joke or put an arm around the referee . We make it uncomfortable for them , every throw in , every corner , every decision ." Booooooo , does you're Mrs take it up the arse etc " . Rally the team in red n white . Give them our full voices , every flick ,tackle , dribble , save , shot , block , ( I realise we don't seem to be having nearly enough shots ) , throw in , corner , sub . Nobody but no one is happy about the shitstorm that OUR club is at THE MOMENT . But we as fans and supporters will ALWAYS be STOKE , and managers and players and board members , come and go , we as supporters will REMAIN. WE ARE THE CLUB . WE ARE STOKE. COME ON STOKE
It certainly sounds that way to me. They may keep him up to the Coventry game and make a statement after that, whatever the outcome. What is released in a press conference is not always what has been agreed.
Nonsense, if he’s been sacked he won’t be in charge on Saturday, you’ve just said he stormed out of a meeting slamming doors and now you’re making excuses in case he is still in charge on Saturday 😂
Maybe the board are just tightarses , and are putting their fingers in their ears and aren't bothered. The most expensive decision for them would be to sack Les , and appoint someone new and have to give them a war chest. Maybe therefore they'll continue with the cheapest option and keep there filthy lucre in their pockets , exactly where they want it .
Because they dont want to? Because they still believe he's the man for the job? Because the alternatives they've sounded out don't want to come? Because there wasn't even a meeting beyond the usual weekly debrief? Because they are sorting severance packages?
I don't know the answer to your question but if there was a meeting about the managers future I doubt anyone would truly know about It and I doubt they would leave the manager and the players with the knowledge that he's no longer wanted.
Dead right they don't want to. Because it's too expensive to get rid. It's far cheaper to keep things as they are. Cheapskates!!
I'm glad that people are now asking questions of the board. All this "saint Peter " bollocks got on my tits. Fans with longer memories will remember his tight fisted antics from years ago. Selling prised assets at questionable prices ,Thorne , Griffin , Sheron , Steino in some cases behind the managers back , Pesch . The golden shares thing with humphries . Appointing cheap options like Chic Bates as manager. They've always done what's best for Peter Coates , not necessarily Stoke . Ok , yes he's put his hand in his pocket at times and we are so grateful that he and the previous manager steered us to a very unlikely promotion , so thanks for that , and also credit where it's due for freezing ticket prices. Again very admirable. However let's not pretend that he hasn't done fantastically well out of Stoke City FC. It's made him a multi multi millionaire , and a vehicle to grow his betting businesses. I know he is a fan, I'm sure he does mean well, and yes I'd rather have him than some faceless consortium , hell bent on asset stripping. But come on , he's no saint. It's time he put his hand back in his saville row trousers and got busy getting us out of this mess he's partly responsible for.
An Alan Ball for the Premier League era? Can dish out the bollockings alright,but would he actually transfigure the team/play?
It’s really hard to say.
He did get Leicester playing eventually and he did get them up.
Disastrous at Derby, though it seems there were behind the scenes problems there.
Seems to be doing reasonably well in Belgium?
It could be ok or it could be an absolute face-melting, terminal velocity disaster.
Oh yes it'd be a gamble alright. It's astonishing that it's been allowed to get this bad. Hughes finally lost my support after the Palace game. And I think a freshen up of the backroom staff simply has to happen. Fresh eyes, fresh approach, and WE ALL get behind him and the lads whomever it will be.
"If a new manager came in, he'd obviously have to come in straight away, so it's got to be someone who's available, whether that be someone unemployed or someone in a job that he could carry on doing - an international job maybe - who could come in and do a club job for 5 or 6 months until the summer"
More than possible he hasn't, but I do wonder if he has heard a small sniff about MON?
I reckon Pearson’s still the front runner. Likely knows Coates from the Gudjon era, wouldn’t cost the earth in compo, British and a bollocker.
I'd be happy with Pearson Toxic. Plus he could stick the nut on Scholes and Carto when they fanny around with new signing !! 💪
Over the last few miserable months, like everyone else I imagine, I often find my mind wandering to seasons gone by. Partly I guess to remind myself that supporting Stoke isn’t always a bag of shite but also, I think, because I’m finding it increasingly hard to really care about football at times. While we’ve never known more about the players we watch (thanks to tabloids, social media, reality tv etc etc) and the game itself (thanks to post match analysis, pre match analysis, pre-post match analysis etc etc) I don’t think I’ve ever felt more disconnected.
I know, I know.....it’s great in many ways. We’re where most of us never imagined for so long. Established top flight club. Packing the stadium. Global exposure. International superstars on the pitch. And all the rest.
But judging from the posts on here I’m not alone in feeling a bit empty at times. Maybe it’s just supporters of a certain vintage (aka. Old fuckers) but it’s a feeling I can’t shake. And yes, I probably wouldn’t be writing this if were top six and semi finals of the League Cup. But I think the feeling would still be there, just a little bit deeper and buried beneath the buzz of success.
Anyway the point of my post is when I do drift away and think back it’s usually one Stoke team that take to the field in my head. Weirdly it’s not the best team we’ve had in my time. All our Premier League teams (sadly possibly bar the current incarnation) would beat them comfortably probably, as would our promotion team. Even some of our earlier Championship teams would be perhaps too strong,
But none of that really matters to me because when you say ‘best Stoke team ever’ to me they appear from a fog of fag smoke, stale beer fumes and the murky gloom illuminated by the floodlights of the Vic. Like Field of Dreams only instead of Kevin Costner there’s Lou Macari leading them out. At this point Eammon Andrews appears with a big red (and white) book and says, ‘Foxysgloves, tonight this is your team’. And out they jog......
Ronnie Sinclair - far too short for a keeper. Dodgy with his distribution at times. But an excellent shot stopper and always seemed a genuinely nice bloke.
John Butler - another genuinely pleasant character. Solid in defense, decent distribution and an occasional early prototype of the modern wing back (see marauding run and assist for TGO at Vale Park)
Lee Sandford - blonde, built and a Tony Pulis wet dream. A Centre Half who was equally at home at Left Back. And bagged more than his fair share of goals.
Ian Cranson - Granite. Square-jawed, knock kneed (actually I’m not sure he had any knees at all after so many operations) and totally uncompromising. But a really capable footballer. And phenomenal header of the ball.
Vince Overson - Barrel chested and floppy haired he just commanded respect. A natural captain and made the slide tackle into an art form.
Kevin Russell - bald, skinny and looked as unlike a professional footballer as it was possible. But, fuck me, could he play! Pacy and a decent delivery but what I loved was his ability to dribble. Proper old school. Blackpool in the pissing rain. Phenomenal.
Steve Foley - legs like Oak trunks. A nasty streak (ask Neil Aspin) but an incredible competitor. An engine like a Ferrari and a great knack for scoring goals that mattered. Brighton away (I think) to get the equalizer and the draw for the new unbeaten run record.
Nigel Gleghorn - lacked a bit of pace, didn’t look the most athletic but a total wand of a left foot. So composed and precise in his play. No surprise he’s gone into coaching. I imagine he’s the kind of bloke you’d run through a wall for.
Carl Beeston/Paul Ware - I’ve put them together because they were similar in so many ways. The Beast was more cultured in his play, Tupper was more dynamic but both were living the dream and, for us fans, we could live it a bit through them. I don’t mind saying the passing of Paul really upset me. I didn’t know him but I did, if you get me. RIP.
Wayne Biggins - Box office. Bertie Big Bollocks with the ability and charisma to carry it off. A first class finisher. Able to deliver when it mattered and very talented. I love that he still supports the club, says a lot about him as a bloke and the bond between supporters and him.
Mark Stein - Best till last. What can I say that hasn’t been said. He was going nowhere when we signed him, nor were we. Together it just worked. He scored goals and we adored him. Genuinely adored him. At times unplayable and such a natural striker of the ball. One in a million.
So that’s my team. What’s yours?
That's a fabulous post right there. Agree with every word. Bravo
You're absolutely right . I've been in the Hughes in camp up until the Leicester game , where after, what sounds like a good game , I was absolutely bored to tears.The general ambivalence I've felt since then, the performances, the lack of actually having A SHOT at goal, has nudged me over the fence into the time to go now camp. Scholes and Cartwright are also massive passengers, and need removing. Alas I doubt they will. I'd happily take a Gary Rowett , or a Rafa Benitez , or a Koeman , or a Claudio Ranieri. We really need to freshen up, it's just gone so stale . But please anyone but Tony Pulis.