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Post by Kingswaystokie on Sept 16, 2023 15:35:42 GMT
Other than Vidigal and Travers none of the new players have improved this team.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Sept 16, 2023 15:39:33 GMT
Other than Vidigal and Travers none of the new players have improved this team. Lose this and a couple more and it’ll turn toxic again. All this gelling rubbish. The tactics are woeful, no clue in the final third for 12 months still. It’s just an ongoing disaster. |
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 16, 2023 15:39:48 GMT
We’ve definitely got some good players now but the manager doesn’t seem to have a clue how to use them!!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 16, 2023 15:41:02 GMT
We’ve definitely got some good players now but the manager doesn’t seem to have a clue how to use them!! Yep, you’re not telling me that no manager out there could get a tune out of this group of players. |
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Post by chad on Sept 16, 2023 15:41:55 GMT
We’ve definitely got some good players now but the manager doesn’t seem to have a clue how to use them!! I’m not sure we have. A few got off to fliers but they’ve all now sunk into the mediocre range (Vidigal excepted ) |
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Post by glpotter on Sept 16, 2023 15:42:50 GMT
We’ve definitely got some good players now but the manager doesn’t seem to have a clue how to use them!! Bingo That’s the problem |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 16, 2023 15:45:09 GMT
We had some great away performances last year.
This year, 3 games, looking like 3 defeats and 0 goals.
You have to question AN.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Sept 16, 2023 15:52:03 GMT
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 16, 2023 16:20:43 GMT
We had some great away performances last year. This year, 3 games, looking like 3 defeats and 0 goals. You have to question AN. Last year it was ‘just wait until he gets his own players’, he doesn’t have long now, he’s just brought in 17 of his own. To tell you the truth I think he’s a tinkerman who thinks he’s smarter than he is. What we need is to go back to basics, pick a formula and a way of playing, get that across to the players clearly, and stick to it. Stop tweaking it every game because we are worried about the opposition. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2023 16:24:27 GMT
We’ve definitely got some good players now but the manager doesn’t seem to have a clue how to use them!! I’m not sure we have. A few got off to fliers but they’ve all now sunk into the mediocre range (Vidigal excepted ) I'm not sure we have the players either tbh but that's also on the manager. Some of these players will need time. I thought Bae looked miles off it today. Burger looked ok but they need to learn to move the ball quicker, they get caught off the ball too easily. I'm not convinced by Johnson, looks a bit of a headless chicken as well, busy but all over the place. |
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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2023 16:25:58 GMT
Still no identity. Most of the teams that we lose to play a simple game with a ridgid set up. That's why we keep getting mugged.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 16, 2023 16:28:42 GMT
We had some great away performances last year. This year, 3 games, looking like 3 defeats and 0 goals. You have to question AN. Last year it was ‘just wait until he gets his own players’, he doesn’t have long now, he’s just brought in 17 of his own. To tell you the truth I think he’s a tinkerman who thinks he’s smarter than he is. What we need is to go back to basics, pick a formula and a way of playing, get that across to the players clearly, and stick to it. Stop tweaking it every game because we are worried about the opposition. 100% my feelings. A PNE supporter once told me that ‘the bloke never knew what his best team was ...... and he only had about 14 to choose from’ . I fear this is only going to get worse before it gets better. |
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:30:08 GMT
Still no identity. Most of the teams that we lose to play a simple game with a ridgid set up. That's why we keep getting mugged. You're right. AN and the players are playing like it's Euro League or CL match when it's the g'damn championship, 442 or 4231. The simple things and basics are doing us in. |
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Post by insideright on Sept 16, 2023 17:00:55 GMT
Good players?
Time to settle in?
If you're a good player do you really need time to settle in before you can control a football or pass it inside the fucking touch line?
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Post by insideright on Sept 16, 2023 17:02:08 GMT
5 times in each half (at least) we passed the ball out for a throw!
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 16, 2023 17:05:28 GMT
Good players? Time to settle in? If you're a good player do you really need time to settle in before you can control a football or pass it inside the fucking touch line? Yes and no. No if it's the odd player you sign coming into a settled squad. Potentially yes when you are 1 of 17 new signings coming into a squad with absolutely no foundations. You'd be surprised what that does to players. |
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Post by tuum on Sept 16, 2023 17:07:22 GMT
Good players? Time to settle in? If you're a good player do you really need time to settle in before you can control a football or pass it inside the fucking touch line? ... although some may be struggling with the pace of the game. When I came out of 'retirement' I struggled to control the most straightforward of passes. Seen it happen to pros too. Steve McMahon was made to look very average by fat expats in Bangkok when he played... purely because he was unfit. The fat expats were used to playing football in their naturally fat state. Steve McMahon was not and he became increasingly frustrated. |
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Post by st3mark on Sept 16, 2023 17:08:10 GMT
Other than Vidigal and Travers none of the new players have improved this team. Burger has. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2023 17:09:30 GMT
5 times in each half (at least) we passed the ball out for a throw! Think it was more than that first half Second half don't remember them doing it, passing was much better The entire side clearly were not switched on first half until told 20+ minutes in which after a similar scenario at Millwall is simply unacceptable Forget formations, personnel, whether intent is to attack, press, sit back or whatever if team is not switched on they will generally get beat |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 16, 2023 17:14:40 GMT
I don’t think 5 games is particularly fair to judge on. We can’t plead for patience and then decide it’s wank! We need to find something for sure and there needs to be signs of a preferred side but once again we are hampered by injuries only 5 games in. It’d look utterly ridiculous if we allowed the rebuild we have and then got rid. We just won’t. All 3 away games have been tough ones, and we’ve lost against Preston at home. It’s not a disaster, but we need to pick up points this week.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 16, 2023 17:20:25 GMT
It isn’t worse than last season at all. It’s exactly what everybody should have expected. We’ve signed a load of unknown players , some are good , some aren’t. I believe we will come good.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 16, 2023 17:27:16 GMT
I think performances have generally been better. Results just aren’t there.
I’m sure it will pick up and we will be up there in playoff contention.
He needs to be braver with his team selection. Campbell and arguably laurent should not be playing at the minute. And he needs to playing an attacking midfielder and not and interchanging box to box
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 16, 2023 17:29:02 GMT
Most successful Teams have an ever present core of 7-9 players barring injuries suspensions etc. We haven’t had a settled side for many years. It is a complete lottery who will be our first 11. The thing that makes me almost cry is that AN favourites are probably our worst performers Laurent, Campbell and now Wesley. It’s an absolute shit show. Our best scoring proposition is more than likely another sick note. I dont know when this torturous journey will end.
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 16, 2023 17:29:16 GMT
Other than Vidigal and Travers none of the new players have improved this team. Burger has. He has, he's still adjusting though seems suprised at how much time he doesn't get with the ball, that will come |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2023 17:31:46 GMT
It isn’t worse than last season at all. It’s exactly what everybody should have expected. We’ve signed a load of unknown players , some are good , some aren’t. I believe we will come good. Have you looked at our goals scored column this season? Our points total, our position? If that's an improvement, God help us |
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 16, 2023 17:33:12 GMT
I think performances have generally been better. Results just aren’t there. I’m sure it will pick up and we will be up there in playoff contention. He needs to be braver with his team selection. Campbell and arguably laurent should not be playing at the minute. And he needs to playing an attacking midfielder and not and interchanging box to box No argument about Laurent and Campbell. They are pretenders, charlatans, Misfits. It’s no longer funny. |
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 16, 2023 17:35:05 GMT
It isn’t worse than last season at all. It’s exactly what everybody should have expected. We’ve signed a load of unknown players , some are good , some aren’t. I believe we will come good. stop talking sense its not allowed on here! |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2023 17:35:20 GMT
Most successful Teams have an ever present core of 7-9 players barring injuries suspensions etc. We haven’t had a settled side for many years. It is a complete lottery who will be our first 11. The thing that makes me almost cry is that AN favourites are probably our worst performers Laurent, Campbell and now Wesley. It’s an absolute shit show. Our best scoring proposition is more than likely another sick note. I dont know when this torturous journey will end. You suggest Wesley is a favourite but I don't think he is a fave, he's getting games due to injury and easing in of Mmaee, once he's back I think Wesley will be back on the bench. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 16, 2023 17:44:50 GMT
I can't agree with this OP or the critical opinions on the other threads.
We have a host of new players with lots of talent but they are going to take month's of playing together to weld into a team.
It is not the manager's fault players passing is awry, shots are off target.
We are unlucky in coming up against the top teams before the fresh squad is ready to take them on. They have shown they can beat poorer teams.
GI've the players and manager time.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 16, 2023 17:45:41 GMT
I'm surprised that Neil was so complimentary in his interview.
I was livid, we had a lot of the ball but created absolutely nothing of note. We could still be playing now and wouldn't have scored. The attacking patterns were so predictable.
It was the performance of a spirited but ultimately toothless League One team.
What was it Einstein said?
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"
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