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Post by gawa on Sept 12, 2023 23:44:28 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 13, 2023 1:07:19 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. Never heard of her. Maguire’s had an incredible fall from grace. It’s pretty impressive to see how far his standards have dropped at club level. I dislike him because a) he plays for Man Utd and b) he’s less than pretty. Mostly b actually, I don’t even really care about Man Utd.
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 13, 2023 2:40:29 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. Totally agree. His mental health must be shot.
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Post by werrington on Sept 13, 2023 5:56:48 GMT
It’s internet bullying and it’s bullying full stop and the mocking every time he’s on the pitch is off the scale
What always baffles me is those who do it and partake in it probably stare aghast at the TV when somebody commits suicide because of it without any awareness that they are part of it
What that lad is going through is horrific on and off the pitch
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Post by werrington on Sept 13, 2023 5:59:30 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. Never heard of her. Maguire’s had an incredible fall from grace. It’s pretty impressive to see how far his standards have dropped at club level. I dislike him because a) he plays for Man Utd and b) he’s less than pretty. Mostly b actually, I don’t even really care about Man Utd. How the fuck can you dislike somebody you don’t even know and who has no effect on your life?…..and a grown adult mocking someone’s looks Grow up ffs
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Post by werrington on Sept 13, 2023 6:03:06 GMT
This thread needs putting on the main board so those who take part in it can be shamed for what they are
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 6:21:13 GMT
His problems seemed to start when Man Utd paid that ridiculous fee for him, which was obviously not his fault.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 13, 2023 6:35:30 GMT
Shameful behaviour, he’s a human being and has rarely let England down
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Post by noustie on Sept 13, 2023 6:36:16 GMT
Whatever the fuck went on in Greece really knocked him too.
Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. Playing mid-table would totally turn him around I reckon.
Great finish last night though so hopefully he can kick on
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 13, 2023 6:38:17 GMT
Whatever the fuck went on in Greece really knocked him too. Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. Playing mid-table would totally turn him around I reckon. Great finish last night though so hopefully he can kick on The only way your boys were going to score last night. Suppose the phrase “it was only a friendly” is rife up there today😉. Certainly wasn’t the case when I was up there last week😀
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Post by noustie on Sept 13, 2023 6:52:34 GMT
Whatever the fuck went on in Greece really knocked him too. Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. Playing mid-table would totally turn him around I reckon. Great finish last night though so hopefully he can kick on The only way your boys were going to score last night. Suppose the phrase “it was only a friendly” is rife up there today😉. Certainly wasn’t the case when I was up there last week😀 The intensity our side showed I'd say we treated it more as a recreational get together between old friends than an official friendly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2023 6:56:37 GMT
He’s shite and if the manager actually gave a shit he’d take him out of the firing line.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 13, 2023 9:27:14 GMT
I do not condone the abuse however
Maguire joins a long list of average to decent (i mean not superstars) players who get plucked from smaller clubs by bigger clubs then wont move when they do not get played
Maguire should be playing football. That is on him
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 13, 2023 9:31:57 GMT
Don’t like the overwhelming abuse he gets either, has never let England down and for all I care he can score as many own goals as he wants for United. He’s been unlucky with some bits that have happened to him , own goals etc, but think he could have done much better with the one last night.
One thing I don’t get however is his choice to stay at United. A season at West Ham to get his career back on track was exactly what the doctor ordered, at a club near enough perfect for him. One of the most bizarre decisions ever to turn it down.
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Post by BlurtonRed on Sept 13, 2023 9:36:38 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. For me he's being and been made the scapegoat for shit managers at both club level and national level. Under Solskjaer at United he was blamed for everything. He was the scapegoat for their poor performances. God knows why, maybe its his big transfer fee and his big wages. Now because everyone other than shit fans hate United everyone is at it with him. Its painful see. For England he's something too beat Southgate with. Southgate for many is a dead man walking, his times up. Maguire shouldn't be used as way of getting at him though. For me until this last 12 month he's never let England down. Intact during the last Euros we improved massively when he came back into the side following injury He needs pulling out of the firing line and someone put an arm around him. He looks absolutely shot
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Post by salopstick on Sept 13, 2023 9:40:12 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. For me he's being and been made the scapegoat for shit managers at both club level and national level. Under Solskjaer at United he was blamed for everything. He was the scapegoat for their poor performances. God knows why, maybe its his big transfer fee and his big wages. Now because everyone other than shit fans hate United everyone is at it with him. Its painful see. For England he's something too beat Southgate with. Southgate for many is a dead man walking, his times up. Maguire shouldn't be used as way of getting at him though. For me until this last 12 month he's never let England down. Intact during the last Euros we improved massively when he came back into the side following injury He needs pulling out of the firing line and someone put an arm around him. He looks absolutely shot he turned down Moyes arm
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 13, 2023 9:42:53 GMT
The way he gets treated by journalists, fans and football pundits is appalling in my opinion. I don't think I've ever known a player to get targeted so much. Maybe I'm over exaggerating but from a footballing pov it nearly reminds you off how Caroline Flack was treated. Never heard of her. Maguire’s had an incredible fall from grace. It’s pretty impressive to see how far his standards have dropped at club level. I dislike him because a) he plays for Man Utd and b) he’s less than pretty. Mostly b actually, I don’t even really care about Man Utd. Maybe you need to educate yourself a little then, and thanks also for your pithy critique of Maguire as footballer and male model.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 13, 2023 9:53:16 GMT
Couldn’t agree more in relation to the OP and he’s not the only one. Social media truly is an awful place.
Even if you’re the strongest of characters personal character assassination can get on top of you and take you into a very dark place.
This shouldn’t be unique to Maguire though it should cover anyone what ever there vocation. Just because people don’t like your club or what you do it’s totally unacceptable to abuse someone.
For me there has to be a line and though for some it’s just words. Those responsible need to be taken to task if they overstep the mark even lawfully if necessary.
On a professional level Southgate needs to drop him to protect him and take him out of the firing line.
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Post by foster on Sept 13, 2023 9:58:05 GMT
What's worse is that I hear kids here in Belgium at footy training singing songs about Maguire. Some kind of Harry Maguire song to the tune of 'Freed from desire'.
He's become synonymous with having a shit defence.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 13, 2023 10:01:27 GMT
Whatever the fuck went on in Greece really knocked him too. Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. Playing mid-table would totally turn him around I reckon. Great finish last night though so hopefully he can kick on When he was arrested in Greece, he said to the police officer “Do you know who I am?” Any footballer or celebrity who utters those contemptuous words deserve a certain level of grief to bring them crashing down from their ivory towers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 10:03:59 GMT
I disagree with the abuse he gets on social media.
But Southgate needs to be fair on him and drop him because he is no longer good enough.
Nothing to do with social media, he should be dropped because he is no longer a good enough player.
Southgate stubbornly picking him , to prove that he can, when everyone knows he is no longer a top player...is tantamount to putting him up to be ridiculed .
Southgate needs to grow up and pick his best eleven and that doesn't include Maguire anymore.
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Post by werrington on Sept 13, 2023 10:05:07 GMT
Whatever the fuck went on in Greece really knocked him too. Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. Playing mid-table would totally turn him around I reckon. Great finish last night though so hopefully he can kick on When he was arrested in Greece, he said to the police officer “Do you know who I am?” Any footballer or celebrity who utters those contemptuous words deserve a certain level of grief to bring them crashing down from their ivory towers. And sadly you believe all that stuff
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 13, 2023 10:05:20 GMT
What's worse is that I hear kids here in Belgium at footy training singing songs about Maguire. Some kind of Harry Maguire song to the tune of 'Freed from desire'. He's become synonymous with having a shit defence. Used to have a couple of apprentices at work who were always making mistakes. They earned the nicknames Bramble and Boumsong
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2023 10:05:38 GMT
I think a spell abroad will do him the power of good. Maybe not Greece though...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 13, 2023 10:12:49 GMT
Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. I don't think that's fair at all. Ten Hag has been blunt with him and told him he's not in his plans and he was offered a perfectly decent move to West Ham (probably/possibly his actual level) ... HE turned the move down. Of course that is his prerogative but I think some of the criticism he's getting now stems from that decision. His pride stopped him from making the move, essentially saying I'm better than you think I am, which he's very much entitled to do but then every time he makes a mistake, he gets vilified for believing that. I'm not defending the criticism but if he had moved to and had a good start to the season with West Ham, I do wonder if the criticism would have been as harsh. Nobody sees him play, except when he plays for England, so he himself has very much placed himself into a very limited spotlight to quieten the naysayers.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 13, 2023 10:36:22 GMT
Don’t like the overwhelming abuse he gets either, has never let England down and for all I care he can score as many own goals as he wants for United. He’s been unlucky with some bits that have happened to him , own goals etc, but think he could have done much better with the one last night. One thing I don’t get however is his choice to stay at United. A season at West Ham to get his career back on track was exactly what the doctor ordered, at a club near enough perfect for him. One of the most bizarre decisions ever to turn it down. The West Ham move would no doubt have meant a significant drop in wages - at least £90k p/week less than he’s currently getting at United. His contract runs till the summer of ‘25, so from a financial pov I can see why he’d want to stick it out. One more injury to their defence, and he’ll be back in the side
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Post by onepara on Sept 13, 2023 10:38:14 GMT
I do sympathise with him & his situation, but he could have removed himself from what was going on at Man. U.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 13, 2023 10:41:10 GMT
Man U keeping him like some sort of gimp is doing him no good. I don't think that's fair at all. Ten Hag has been blunt with him and told him he's not in his plans and he was offered a perfectly decent move to West Ham (probably/possibly his actual level) ... HE turned the move down. Of course that is his prerogative but I think some of the criticism he's getting now stems from that decision. His pride stopped him from making the move, essentially saying I'm better than you think I am, which he's very much entitled to do but then every time he makes a mistake, he gets vilified for believing that. I'm not defending the criticism but if he had moved to and had a good start to the season with West Ham, I do wonder if the criticism would have been as harsh. Nobody sees him play, except when he plays for England, so he himself has very much placed himself into a very limited spotlight to quieten the naysayers. Agreed. The abuse he takes from the stands is horrible and the people dishing it out should be ashamed of themselves, but he hasn’t done himself any favours by stubbornly refusing to move and provide people a reminder of how good he can be with a fresh start, and Southgate hasn’t done him any favours by continuing to pick him when he’s barely playing and performing badly when he does. As Bayern said he shouldn’t have been put in that situation.
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Post by onepara on Sept 13, 2023 10:41:46 GMT
by accepting the offer that was made to him by moving to West Ham. According to reports, he wouldn't move because he wanted a pay-off from Man. U.
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 13, 2023 10:41:50 GMT
Personal abuse is clearly out of order.
Southgate should have protected him last night though, instead of throwing him in to the lions den. That's forgetting the fact we had 2 younger centre halves on the bench who probably should have come on instead of Maguire too.
He should have taken the move to West Ham.
He needs out of Man Utd and a fresh start.
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