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Post by spitthedog on Mar 15, 2023 12:36:34 GMT
What do people make of it now in retrospect?
Comments at the end of the window included
'shocker' 'shitshow' 'scandalous' 'dogshit' 'imbecilic'
It was pretty universally viewed as appalling business and both Neil and the board were lambasted.
This is in no way a 'told you so' thread btw. I was as horrified as the next.
We mostly thought we weren't going to score any goals and would be conceding shiploads!
Interesting how it's turning out?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 15, 2023 12:39:54 GMT
I was surprised by the level of vitriol at the time as I thought we'd made some good signings.
The big disappointment was not getting a target man in, but we've scored plenty of goals anyway.
The big gamble was Tuanzebe for Souttar, which looks like it's paying off so far.
As disappointing as AN's start was he was always going to need a transfer window before we really started to see his team.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 15, 2023 12:40:26 GMT
Having both Hoever and Sterling seemed a duplication at the time. Celina was a strange one given we'd let Delap go, so it wasn't a perfect window but this should be rectified come the Summer. Remember, we had to wait for Tuanzebe and Pearson to get fit so it's taken time to see the full effects.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 15, 2023 12:41:22 GMT
If Souttar can play in the Prem, Tuanzebe will have no problem once fully fit.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 12:45:46 GMT
Naah it was and still is a bit of a disappointment even though some of the players are exciting and you can see the difference they're making. Given our contracted player situation this coming Summer, no permanent signings is a disappointing window leaving us with imo too much to do in the Summer.
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Post by lordb on Mar 15, 2023 12:48:29 GMT
excellent wit the caveat all are on loan so no guarantee they will be here next season
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 12:50:28 GMT
excellent wit the caveat all are on loan so no guarantee they will be here next season Exactly if a couple were to become permanent it would change the whole complexion of the window. As long as they were the right ones obviously ie not Celina.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2023 12:52:16 GMT
On top of the signings themselves I think Laurent getting a run of games finally and us having a settled team and formation have been massive as well. We've been chopping and changing for far too long........
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Post by wuzza on Mar 15, 2023 12:56:59 GMT
Yep note to self - ‘patience is a virtue’. It certainly looks now that it was a far better window than I gave it credit for.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 12:57:13 GMT
On top of the signings themselves I think Laurent getting a run of games finally and us having a settled team and formation have been massive as well. We've been chopping and changing for far too long........ Laurent is a powerhouse. People confuse this with being a bit fiesty which is between the ears (Joe Allen was fiesty but was definitely not a powerhouse). Powerfulness is not an attitude.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 15, 2023 12:57:26 GMT
I was surprised by the level of vitriol at the time as I thought we'd made some good signings. The big disappointment was not getting a target man in, but we've scored plenty of goals anyway. The big gamble was Tuanzebe for Souttar, which looks like it's paying off so far. As disappointing as AN's start was he was always going to need a transfer window before we really started to see his team. This 100%. I was cautiously optimistic but disappointed we didn't get a striker in. As it's turned out so far........
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Post by lordb on Mar 15, 2023 12:58:12 GMT
excellent wit the caveat all are on loan so no guarantee they will be here next season Exactly if a couple were to become permanent it would change the whole complexion of the window. As long as they were the right ones obviously ie not Celina. probably best to revisit this thread in September re Celina, we simply haven't seen enough of him yet, perhaps we won't either unless there's another injury
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 13:00:23 GMT
Exactly if a couple were to become permanent it would change the whole complexion of the window. As long as they were the right ones obviously ie not Celina. probably best to revisit this thread in September re Celina, we simply haven't seen enough of him yet, perhaps we won't either unless there's another injury Seen enough to form the opinion he's not physical enough for the type of football we're playing.
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Post by thepottypotter on Mar 15, 2023 13:25:31 GMT
I will hold my hands up and admit that it has gone much better with the loanees than I was expecting!
Particular credit has to go to AN's team for our fitness levels. Both for getting Pearson and Tuanzebe fit so quickly but hugely increasing the fitness of our whole squad!
The high press and tempo we are playing at is remarkable. By far, it's the best I have seen us play in years.
Only thing stopping the window being excellent is not getting a target man and having so many loans.
We will need to review the Jan window again in September to see if any of them sign permanently. It would be a massive shame if it was just a flash in the plan and nothing long-term came out of it!
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Post by march4 on Mar 15, 2023 13:26:55 GMT
Best transfer window for years.
I didn’t understand much of the moaning.
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Post by thepottypotter on Mar 15, 2023 13:33:49 GMT
What do people make of it now in retrospect? Comments at the end of the window included 'shocker' 'shitshow' 'scandalous' 'dogshit' 'imbecilic' It was pretty universally viewed as appalling business and both Neil and the board were lambasted. This is in no way a 'told you so' thread btw. I was as horrified as the next. We mostly thought we weren't going to score any goals and would be conceding shiploads! Interesting how it's turning out? I think a fair bit of it was people being scarred from previous windows' lacklustre loans. On the surface, signing two injured players seemed to be a warning flag along with not signing a target man. The thing that caught most people out was not expecting them to get fit so quickly. A lot underestimated AN's team and a fair few fans were very impatient. Seeing the quality of the loans and how effective the system is has earned AN some credit. It's (happily) forced many, myself included, to eat humble pie and revise opinions. Only in September will we now for sure how good this window was though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2023 13:38:46 GMT
Tuanzebe being available has made it palatable.
I still don't think it was great and the forward line still leaves a lot to be desired.
Pearson has been excellent and been better than even us who always wanted him thought he would be.
Hoever has surprised but I still wouldn't want him him next season unless he was cheap.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 15, 2023 13:40:00 GMT
If Souttar can play in the Prem, Tuanzebe will have no problem once fully fit. The end part of your post might be the sticking point. I just checked and he’s only made 89 appearances in his 8 years as a professional. He has been incredibly unlucky with injuries. Maybe if he’s settled here, enjoying playing and wanting to restart his career he may well be tempted to stay for another year. However, if he is certainly good enough to play in the Prem.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 15, 2023 13:41:30 GMT
My thoughts haven't changed. We took stupid risks when we were, at the time, in no position to take them.
A few good results now won't change my mind over what we did then, when we did it and how I viewed it. We got lucky with it to some extent and that luck is probably overdue.
Nobody could question the quality of the players coming in. The questions were rightly about when and if we'd see them.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 15, 2023 13:45:04 GMT
Best transfer window for years. I didn’t understand much of the moaning. I think most of the concern is regarding the number of loanees. However it's certainly brought a breeze of fresh air into what has been a frustrating season so far. If we can make some of the loans permanent and replace those who we can’t with decent replacements then the future is certainly brighter than recent seasons.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 15, 2023 15:01:40 GMT
I thought it was good at the time and still think it's good now.
Perfect transfer windows rarely happen, and in Sarkic and Pearson, we signed quality in two of the three positions we most needed to fill. Unfortunately our injury curse struck again with the former, but hopefully recent wins have given the rest of the team confidence to see a good end to the season.
Tuanzebe has been a big bonus when he's played.
Celina getting little game time has been disappointing, but someone was always going to lose out with the number of loan signings. I thought it'd be Hoever.
It's good to see Sterling, Laurent, and Smallbone free from injury and finally getting a run of games. That's probably helped our form a lot as well as the newest signings.
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 15, 2023 15:16:17 GMT
It's still shocking that we had no attacking players on the bench last night. We're so short that if Campbell get's injured we'd be struggling.
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 15, 2023 15:26:40 GMT
If Souttar can play in the Prem, Tuanzebe will have no problem once fully fit. looking at leicesters recent results maybe Harry is out of is depth in the premier league,, but at least we got good money for him,
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 15, 2023 15:42:20 GMT
must admit I thought it was a shocker
I thought Hoever would be awful
Pearson and Tuanzebe being injured flummoxed me
Celina was underwhelming and Sarkic was needed
I was very underwhelmed in particular by the failure to bring in a striker, to to lesser degree now I still think that was a bad mistake, but Pearson, Hoever have been excellent, and Tuanzebe I am sure will be come good
I think we all reserve the right yo change our minds though, I like everyone is delighted to be proven wrong
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 15, 2023 18:10:09 GMT
Naah it was and still is a bit of a disappointment even though some of the players are exciting and you can see the difference they're making. Given our contracted player situation this coming Summer, no permanent signings is a disappointing window leaving us with imo too much to do in the Summer. Who was available that you would have liked us to have bought? Very hard to do permanent deals in January whereas there will be huge numbers of players available in the summer and we will have money to spend and a much better story to tell than a relegation battle.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 15, 2023 18:20:21 GMT
Naah it was and still is a bit of a disappointment even though some of the players are exciting and you can see the difference they're making. Given our contracted player situation this coming Summer, no permanent signings is a disappointing window leaving us with imo too much to do in the Summer. Who was available that you would have liked us to have bought? Very hard to do permanent deals in January whereas there will be huge numbers of players available in the summer and we will have money to spend and a much better story to tell than a relegation battle. How would I know who was available? If you mean who moved somewhere else I wish we'd have got, can't say anyone springs to mind. There were a few I was bloody glad we didn't do, Hugill on a three and a half year deal for example. Pearson and a keeper on a perm would have been a nice start.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2023 18:29:54 GMT
What do we think now of the transfer window?
Well the fact that most people are hoping that we can sign Pearson, Hoever and Tuanzebe permanently, kind of answers that question I think.
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Post by march4 on Mar 15, 2023 18:38:14 GMT
What do we think now of the transfer window? Well the fact that most people are hoping that we can sign Pearson, Hoever and Tuanzebe permanently, kind of answers that question I think. Exactly.
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Post by lordb on Mar 15, 2023 18:42:40 GMT
My thoughts haven't changed. We took stupid risks when we were, at the time, in no position to take them. A few good results now won't change my mind over what we did then, when we did it and how I viewed it. We got lucky with it to some extent and that luck is probably overdue. Nobody could question the quality of the players coming in. The questions were rightly about when and if we'd see them. Re Tuanzebe that was an understandable concern however don't see why that would be extended to the others?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 15, 2023 18:45:15 GMT
I think the fact that we signed players that weren’t ready to play stuck in the craw, especially with the horrible form we were in. We all just wanted that bounce straight away and have had to wait a few weeks. Pearson - transforms our midfield Tuanzebe - Far too good for the championship Sterling - looked excellent since he’s had a run of games Hoever - massively surprised, a revelation despite some defensive flaws Keeper - seemed to settle the defence, and a good communicator Celina - not seen enough, an enigma probably
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