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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 17, 2023 15:12:55 GMT
I would say, prioritize getting sterling and Pearson in. The other loans I'm not bothered about.
If Tuanzebe is available for reasonable wages given his possible injury issues, I'd bring him in
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 17, 2023 15:29:23 GMT
A minimum of 10 signings, surely not 😳😳
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 17, 2023 15:35:24 GMT
A minimum of 10 signings, surely not 😳😳 We simply have to sign players as soon as the window opens/on pre-contracts beforehand. If we don’t act fast, we will not have enough players in the squad to do a decent pre-season. I think he’s faced with a huge task to be honest. We’ll likely be after multiple players for the same position but this rebuild will wholly depend on the right combination of those multiple options coming in. If it were me, I’d do rapid fire for my priority targets (caving a bit on some demands (to a degree)) and then building a bit slower after that.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 17, 2023 15:47:16 GMT
A minimum of 10 signings, surely not 😳😳 We simply have to sign players as soon as the window opens/on pre-contracts beforehand. If we don’t act fast, we will not have enough players in the squad to do a decent pre-season. I think he’s faced with a huge task to be honest. We’ll likely be after multiple players for the same position but this rebuild will wholly depend on the right combination of those multiple options coming in. If it were me, I’d do rapid fire for my priority targets (caving a bit on some demands (to a degree)) and then building a bit slower after that. Priority targets often have multiple options though, so sometimes you have to be patient. Others don't become available until later in the window.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 17, 2023 15:50:17 GMT
We simply have to sign players as soon as the window opens/on pre-contracts beforehand. If we don’t act fast, we will not have enough players in the squad to do a decent pre-season. I think he’s faced with a huge task to be honest. We’ll likely be after multiple players for the same position but this rebuild will wholly depend on the right combination of those multiple options coming in. If it were me, I’d do rapid fire for my priority targets (caving a bit on some demands (to a degree)) and then building a bit slower after that. Priority targets often have multiple options though, so sometimes you have to be patient. Others don't become available until later in the window. So, you think that we should start training with 9 senior players and no goalkeeper? Or, do we run the gamut, sign players who may/may not be very good depending on our priority signings and then just hope that the right ones come in later?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 17, 2023 15:54:35 GMT
Priority targets often have multiple options though, so sometimes you have to be patient. Others don't become available until later in the window. So, you think that we should start training with 9 senior players and no goalkeeper? Or, do we run the gamut, sign players who may/may not be very good depending on our priority signings and then just hope that the right ones come in later? I don't think we should sign any old shit, that's for sure. I'm sure we'll be talking to players and have some plans in place. I'm just saying it isn't as easy as deciding you'll quickly sign your priority players at the start of the window, it doesn't work like that.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 17, 2023 17:02:56 GMT
So, you think that we should start training with 9 senior players and no goalkeeper? Or, do we run the gamut, sign players who may/may not be very good depending on our priority signings and then just hope that the right ones come in later? I don't think we should sign any old shit, that's for sure. I'm sure we'll be talking to players and have some plans in place. I'm just saying it isn't as easy as deciding you'll quickly sign your priority players at the start of the window, it doesn't work like that. Of course it doesn’t and I wouldn’t want us to sign any old player either. However, we surely have to make considerations about paying a bit over what we would normally do considering we don’t have a first 11 to train. If we start the preseason with half of what we end with, the squad won’t be in shape to do anything next season either.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 17, 2023 17:11:59 GMT
From the Wigan conference How busy will Stoke be this summer? Alex Neil suggests that in an ideal summer you would like to sign four or five players but this one is looking like double that. His subsequent explanation suggests even that might be an underestimation. I just hope we start looking at players on the way up with resale value and desire to progress, not players on the way down after a last paycheck
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 17, 2023 17:34:34 GMT
I think he kind of said that, in as much as we will need to be looking at players with a resell value..
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 17, 2023 17:45:04 GMT
I think Radio Stoke said on Saturday that clubs can't sign anyone until June 14th. Presumably that's when the window opens. As AN said you can have all sorts of agreements in place but until the contract is signed nothing is binding and players have been known to be on their way to sign somewhere and turn round and go somewhere else. I think Shawcross did that to Norwich and I did wonder if Neil had been their manager at the time! Probably before his time I would imagine.
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 17, 2023 17:51:43 GMT
Ryan Manning from Swansea, who's pretty much the best LB in the division, is available on a free this summer so we really should be going balls deep for him. I would be sad to lose Josh as he is a superb WB and I still think he can be coached into being an effective LB as he has the raw tools, but if we got Manning then it might work well for both parties if a transfer to Swansea can be arranged for Josh. Wherever Manning is going, he’ll already have a deal agreed and lined up. He’s told Swans he’s not staying so he’ll 100% have something done already. Who knows whether that’s with us or someone else. With no fee though, half the league will have been after him. This was posted earlier this morning on a Swansea fan site. Sounds like Swansea are going to make a last ditch offer to keep him and whilst it’s unlikely he’ll stay, it shows that he probably hasn’t got anything lined up. And why would he? When you’re a free agent and a quality player, you’ll take your time to assess the best options. Hopefully one of them will be from us. According to the article, he’ll be looking for approx £16k p/wk. We’ll surely be one of the few clubs who could come close to that.
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Post by onepara on Apr 17, 2023 18:10:59 GMT
I'd like to see Alex Mowatt, (on loan from W.Brom to Middlesboro at the moment), as a direct replacement for Baker. He's 28 years old, & just does the job much better than Baker, & would link well with Pearson.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 19, 2023 18:51:07 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Apr 19, 2023 18:58:02 GMT
How long till the 'He's watching Brereton-Diaz' comments
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 19, 2023 19:03:58 GMT
By and large I think the loan signings saved our season. Pearson has to be a shoo in Sterling I’m hopeful on Hoever I’d like another loan as we can’t afford him Sarkic I’m not sure on, have we seen enough?
Realistically Smallbone, Tuanzebe, Celina are unattainable, too risky and crap in that order
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 30, 2023 21:40:19 GMT
Yup, still shit.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on May 1, 2023 6:33:13 GMT
If the intention was to cut cost and survive, mission accomplished I suppose? Very ugly though. Lost a striker - no replacement. Sold best cb- no real replacement Complain about no wingers - swap fosu for a crap number 10?
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Post by george2again on May 1, 2023 6:46:21 GMT
Wherever Manning is going, he’ll already have a deal agreed and lined up. He’s told Swans he’s not staying so he’ll 100% have something done already. Who knows whether that’s with us or someone else. With no fee though, half the league will have been after him. This was posted earlier this morning on a Swansea fan site. Sounds like Swansea are going to make a last ditch offer to keep him and whilst it’s unlikely he’ll stay, it shows that he probably hasn’t got anything lined up. And why would he? When you’re a free agent and a quality player, you’ll take your time to assess the best options. Hopefully one of them will be from us. According to the article, he’ll be looking for approx £16k p/wk. We’ll surely be one of the few clubs who could come close to that. Posted before. Good player. Last decent left back we’ve had?
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Post by hcstokie on May 1, 2023 7:06:36 GMT
This was posted earlier this morning on a Swansea fan site. Sounds like Swansea are going to make a last ditch offer to keep him and whilst it’s unlikely he’ll stay, it shows that he probably hasn’t got anything lined up. And why would he? When you’re a free agent and a quality player, you’ll take your time to assess the best options. Hopefully one of them will be from us. According to the article, he’ll be looking for approx £16k p/wk. We’ll surely be one of the few clubs who could come close to that. Posted before. Good player. Last decent left back we’ve had? Pieters - I’d go as far to say he’s the only decent one we’ve had in the last 10 years.
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Post by george2again on May 1, 2023 7:07:58 GMT
Well I’ll add something to this, I wouldn’t be unhappy with all three of our strikers leaving. Gayle finished, bench for a season on big money. Not a Brown fan at all. Talentless, unintelligent footballer but he runs a lot. ( if Millwall make it up hopefully Rowett comes back in) and we’ve been waiting for Campbell to perform for ages. Maybe a case of he needs a move as it’s not going to happen at Stoke. Good finisher but rest of game is poor. Being honest I’m bored of our front line.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 1, 2023 8:07:27 GMT
Well I’ll add something to this, I wouldn’t be unhappy with all three of our strikers leaving. Gayle finished, bench for a season on big money. Not a Brown fan at all. Talentless, unintelligent footballer but he runs a lot. ( if Millwall make it up hopefully Rowett comes back in) and we’ve been waiting for Campbell to perform for ages. Maybe a case of he needs a move as it’s not going to happen at Stoke. Good finisher but rest of game is poor. Being honest I’m bored of our front line. It depends on what we can bring in really. Campbell is useful when playing out wide and Brown is also useful if we want to go for high pressure football, which was when we played our best football this season. We have been crying out for a targetman the whole season though, one able to hold the ball up and win headers in the box. We also need a tall and mobile central defender to play alongside Wilmot, Fox and Taylor are decent enough back up as I see it. Jags is OK when the play goes on in front of him, but he struggles when the ball is played into the space behind him and isn't the same in the air any longer either. We certainly need to let him go now. Tuanzebe is a too big risk because of injuries despite being the best in the division when fit.
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Post by independent on May 2, 2023 17:43:33 GMT
Sounds like Swansea are going to make a last ditch offer to keep him and whilst it’s unlikely he’ll stay, it shows that he probably hasn’t got anything lined up.
And why would he? When you’re a free agent and a quality player, you’ll take your time to assess the best options. Hopefully one of them will be from us. According to the article, he’ll be looking for approx £16k p/wk. We’ll surely be one of the few clubs who could come close to that.
it is enough to make you weep when you think of what we could have done with all the money we have wasted.
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Post by jokker on May 2, 2023 18:17:01 GMT
A minimum of 10 signings, surely not 😳😳 We simply have to sign players as soon as the window opens/on pre-contracts beforehand. If we don’t act fast, we will not have enough players in the squad to do a decent pre-season. I think he’s faced with a huge task to be honest. We’ll likely be after multiple players for the same position but this rebuild will wholly depend on the right combination of those multiple options coming in. If it were me, I’d do rapid fire for my priority targets (caving a bit on some demands (to a degree)) and then building a bit slower after that. We can always partialpromote players from the academy to make up numbers in pre season. It's if we don't have enough numbers when the window closes that we should worry. But I suspect that there will be many players without contract even in late August. It's a good idea in theory to plunge as soon as the window opens. Nathan Jones did that, signed 10 players at the end of June, then failed to establish more than a couple in his Rowett-signings-based team, despite the benefit of having a full pre season to find his best eleven. He never did..
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 8:28:39 GMT
One good player... Pearson.
Lessons learned
1) we need first team players who are usually available to play , not first team players like sarkic tuanzebe Powell and Clucas, who are usually sat in the stands.
2 ) we need players who are quick thinking, good on the ball and athletic . Admittedly so does everyone else so not the easiest players to bring in.
But please no more overpaid past it, had their day , off the pace players, who were once decent five years ago.
Please no more Stoke , I have seen enough to last a lifetime .
We are not getting promoted with a 40 year old centre back and a 34 year old centre forward.
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Post by biglad180 on May 3, 2023 8:39:10 GMT
i would love us to go for Billy Gilmore even if only on load little but a very tricky player ,also Philogene,Bidace,
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 3, 2023 8:40:16 GMT
i would love us to go for Billy Gilmore even if only on load little but a very tricky player ,also Philogene,Bidace, Billy Gilmour isn’t bad either😊
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Post by biglad180 on May 3, 2023 8:42:10 GMT
i would love us to go for Billy Gilmore even if only on load little but a very tricky player ,also Philogene,Bidace, Billy Gilmour isn’t bad either😊 bad speller mate ha
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Post by george2again on May 3, 2023 8:55:01 GMT
Billy Gilmour isn’t bad either😊 bad speller mate ha Gilmour, Lauren and Pearson is a very decent midfield. Need to lose Thompson and Baker if attitudes not right.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 9:55:06 GMT
Billy Gilmour is a super footballer, but he is surely a premier League player.
As the you tube clip shows, he is expert at scanning ( looking over your shoulder) and seeing the pass , when the ball is on its way to him.
He already knows the right pass before he even gets the ball , and then plays it spot on , nine times out of ten .
I would love to see him play for Stoke , but I would be amazed to see him outside the prem with the possible exception of Rangers / Celtic.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 3, 2023 10:13:34 GMT
Billy Gilmour is a super footballer, but he is surely a premier League player. As the you tube clip shows, he is expert at scanning ( looking over your shoulder) and seeing the pass , when the ball is on its way to him. He already knows the right pass before he even gets the ball , and then plays it spot on , nine times out of ten . I would love to see him play for Stoke , but I would be amazed to see him outside the prem with the possible exception of Rangers / Celtic. I don't think a high-end Championship move is out of the question for him, is it? He's not done much in his Prem loans to date, a confidence-building season in the Championship could be exactly what he needs.
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