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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2022 20:41:03 GMT
Could Gayle or Delap have done the job he did last night? Playing in a position I’m sure he doesn’t like (as a striker who scores goals) he’s put in a selfless dedicated shift. Versatile. Dedicated. Effective. I wonder will Neil be a fan? Actually I don’t. I’m sure he already is. Run a lot? Yes. Delap would have probably defended better and not been skinned the few times Brown was too. Nonsense. Of the three strikers Brown is the only one who could do a competent job at wing back. He
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 20:46:06 GMT
Run a lot? Yes. Delap would have probably defended better and not been skinned the few times Brown was too. Nonsense. Of the three strikers Brown is the only one who could do a competent job at wing back. He I disagree. Alls he did was run a lot which the other two can do. Delap is stronger and bigger and harder to get past so I think would add more solidity there. Brown was ran past a few times like he wasn’t there which is fine. He can’t play right wing back and it’s daft to ask him to.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 14, 2022 20:49:35 GMT
He runs a lot and that’s it. He was average tonight and we have this wank fest. It’s hilarious. From someone who used to rave about Tom Edwards and Verlinden I’m not surprised you have the lazy opinion that ‘he just runs around a lot.’ Seems that if you’ve got a bit of grit about you and have energy and pace you get the label of having no technical ability or even a ‘headless chicken’ as I’ve seen him referred to before on here. Since being here Brown has continued to improve massively. I’d go as far as saying him and Tymon are our most important players at this moment in time. The club posted a video on their Facebook page of all of his goals from last season. If Rashford had scored some of those from the same tight angles, or receiving the ball with his back to the goal, turning and shooting, or just having the ability to make space for himself and be in the right place at the right time then people would be jizzing all over the place. Have a look at the video and still try and pretend he’s got limited ability or no footballing brain. He’s constantly improving and seems determined and genuinely passionate to play for us. I mostly agree but there are plenty of embarrassing bits that don't make the highlight reel. I get why he's not for everyone. I like that he's not just worked hard but particularly seems to have worked on his weaknesses. Motivating yourself to do the hard bits is beyond a lot of people and I'd say his shooting in particular has got way more lethal. I swear I remember his first season he often dawdled in shooting positions and then his "shots" could be atrocious. He earned those goals last season and proved lots of us wrong.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2022 21:00:17 GMT
Nonsense. Of the three strikers Brown is the only one who could do a competent job at wing back. He I disagree. Alls he did was run a lot which the other two can do. Delap is stronger and bigger and harder to get past so I think would add more solidity there. Brown was ran past a few times like he wasn’t there which is fine. He can’t play right wing back and it’s daft to ask him to. He’s played there plenty. With Barnsley and us. To suggest Delap could be a better option there is absolute insanity.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:11:06 GMT
I disagree. Alls he did was run a lot which the other two can do. Delap is stronger and bigger and harder to get past so I think would add more solidity there. Brown was ran past a few times like he wasn’t there which is fine. He can’t play right wing back and it’s daft to ask him to. He’s played there plenty. With Barnsley and us. To suggest Delap could be a better option there is absolute insanity. He has and he can’t do it. Why is it? Brown runs a lot and that’s all he does. Delap can do that. Add his strength and power to it which Brown doesn’t have and should be better at it. Gayle would be as bad as Brown at it but would get up and down which is what Brown does.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2022 21:15:01 GMT
He’s played there plenty. With Barnsley and us. To suggest Delap could be a better option there is absolute insanity. He has and he can’t do it. Why is it? Brown runs a lot and that’s all he does. Delap can do that. Add his strength and power to it which Brown doesn’t have and should be better at it. Gayle would be as bad as Brown at it but would get up and down which is what Brown does. Because they’re completely different positions. Is there a reason that several managers have trusted to do a job in that position? It’s fairly evident it’s not his best position but he’s a makeshift option. Delap is a very good centre forward but he’d be completely lost in a wing back position. I actually can’t believe this is even up for discussion???
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Post by nonameface on Sept 14, 2022 21:15:42 GMT
He’s played there plenty. With Barnsley and us. To suggest Delap could be a better option there is absolute insanity. He has and he can’t do it. Why is it? Brown runs a lot and that’s all he does. Delap can do that. Add his strength and power to it which Brown doesn’t have and should be better at it. Gayle would be as bad as Brown at it but would get up and down which is what Brown does. To be fair, having Brown back up top wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:17:39 GMT
He has and he can’t do it. Why is it? Brown runs a lot and that’s all he does. Delap can do that. Add his strength and power to it which Brown doesn’t have and should be better at it. Gayle would be as bad as Brown at it but would get up and down which is what Brown does. Because they’re completely different positions. Is there a reason that several managers have trusted to do a job in that position? It’s fairly evident it’s not his best position but he’s a makeshift option. Delap is a very good centre forward but he’d be completely lost in a wing back position. I actually can’t believe this is even up for discussion??? Because he runs a lot and it means he’s out of the way where it matters?
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2022 21:20:54 GMT
Because they’re completely different positions. Is there a reason that several managers have trusted to do a job in that position? It’s fairly evident it’s not his best position but he’s a makeshift option. Delap is a very good centre forward but he’d be completely lost in a wing back position. I actually can’t believe this is even up for discussion??? Because he runs a lot and it means he’s out of the way where it matters? Yes. Because run is all he does. Obviously.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:21:13 GMT
Because he runs a lot and it means he’s out of the way where it matters? Yes. Because run is all he does. Obviously. Glad we finally agreed.
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Post by Picasso on Sept 14, 2022 21:27:22 GMT
So the manager that just picked a team and formation that brought us a very good away win and performance, made a daft decision to play a player (whom more than contributed to the very good performance), in the wrong position. Not only that, but said player’s sum capabilities are that they can only ‘run a lot’!
I wish supporters actually supported.
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Post by UsAndThem on Sept 14, 2022 21:28:30 GMT
From someone who used to rave about Tom Edwards and Verlinden I’m not surprised you have the lazy opinion that ‘he just runs around a lot.’ Seems that if you’ve got a bit of grit about you and have energy and pace you get the label of having no technical ability or even a ‘headless chicken’ as I’ve seen him referred to before on here. Since being here Brown has continued to improve massively. I’d go as far as saying him and Tymon are our most important players at this moment in time. The club posted a video on their Facebook page of all of his goals from last season. If Rashford had scored some of those from the same tight angles, or receiving the ball with his back to the goal, turning and shooting, or just having the ability to make space for himself and be in the right place at the right time then people would be jizzing all over the place. Have a look at the video and still try and pretend he’s got limited ability or no footballing brain. He’s constantly improving and seems determined and genuinely passionate to play for us. I mostly agree but there are plenty of embarrassing bits that don't make the highlight reel. I get why he's not for everyone. I like that he's not just worked hard but particularly seems to have worked on his weaknesses. Motivating yourself to do the hard bits is beyond a lot of people and I'd say his shooting in particular has got way more lethal. I swear I remember his first season he often dawdled in shooting positions and then his "shots" could be atrocious. He earned those goals last season and proved lots of us wrong. Of course there are flaws to his game which is why he’s not playing in the Premiership (yet). I’m not making out he’s Ronaldo but people saying all he does is run is plain nonsense. He’s clearly got a decent footballing brain and like you say, he’s worked on his weaknesses and has drastically improved since he has been here. If you look at that highlight reel there is no way you can say he isn’t technically a good player. He’s gets into good positions, makes space for himself, reads the game well, is technically good with the ball at his feet and scored a fair few goals from the tightest of angles. The reason why I mentioned Rashford in my previous post was because in that highlight reel he reminded me a bit of Rashford and how he plays and the kind of goals he scores. He’s clearly not got the ability of Rashford but he shows glimpses and he’s earn’t his international call up to play for Scotland which seemingly came out of the blue. Not bad for someone who just runs a bit. I think there’s a lot more to come from this lad yet. He’s hungry and clearly wants to keep bettering himself. What’s not to like about him. Even when playing out of position
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:31:49 GMT
So the manager that just picked a team and formation that brought us a very good away win and performance, made a daft decision to play a player (whom more than contributed to the very good performance), in the wrong position. Not only that, but said player’s sum capabilities are that they can only ‘run a lot’! I wish supporters actually supported. Yes. Hopefully he will never play there again.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 14, 2022 21:38:30 GMT
Brown didn’t contribute anything much in attack which is pretty important for a wing back. But he’s not a wing back! I thought Tymon offered little going forward too but he’s way off full fitness. You’d think Sterling wasn’t far off being available and we have Clarke back soonish. If we stick with a three at the back Jacob will compete mainly with Gayle for a spot and good luck to the lad as his goals last season kept our season from being truly horrific.
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Post by Picasso on Sept 14, 2022 21:40:09 GMT
So the manager that just picked a team and formation that brought us a very good away win and performance, made a daft decision to play a player (whom more than contributed to the very good performance), in the wrong position. Not only that, but said player’s sum capabilities are that they can only ‘run a lot’! I wish supporters actually supported. Yes. Hopefully he will never play there again. Never mind ‘Hopefully he will never play there again’… You say that all Brown can do is ‘run a lot’, so what does the position matter? Try giving the manager some credit for manufacturing the win, try giving Brown some credit for being a part of the reason we won, try supporting the team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:41:14 GMT
Brown didn’t contribute anything much in attack which is pretty important for a wing back. But he’s not a wing back! I thought Tymon offered little going forward too but he’s way off full fitness. You’d think Sterling wasn’t far off being available and we have Clarke back soonish. If we stick with a three at the back Jacob will compete mainly with Gayle for a spot and good luck to the lad as his goals last season kept our season from being truly horrific. He blocked it off which was fine. But we definitely need more there and I wouldn’t expect him to offer that as he’s not a right wing back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:42:12 GMT
Yes. Hopefully he will never play there again. Never mind ‘Hopefully he will never play there again’… You say that all Brown can do is ‘run a lot’, so what does the position matter? Try giving the manager some credit for manufacturing the win, try giving Brown some credit for being a part of the reason we won, try supporting the team. But I don’t think he was so why would I? 😂
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2022 21:42:53 GMT
So the manager that just picked a team and formation that brought us a very good away win and performance, made a daft decision to play a player (whom more than contributed to the very good performance), in the wrong position. Not only that, but said player’s sum capabilities are that they can only ‘run a lot’! I wish supporters actually supported. Yes. Hopefully he will never play there again. I’m sure Brown probably hopes the same. But he’ll get on with it if he has to I’m sure. And leave the whining and moaning to experts like you.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:44:47 GMT
Yes. Hopefully he will never play there again. I’m sure Brown probably hopes the same. But he’ll get on with it if he has to I’m sure. And leave the whining and moaning to experts like you. He will and credit to him for that.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 14, 2022 21:46:26 GMT
It is worth repeating he is the only striker to have scored this season. So it’s Gayle and Delap 0 - 2 Brown. He’s wasted playing out wide on the left or the right. Neil, and O’Neill before him, have tried to establish Gayle and Delap as twin strikers, but 20% into the season it has yet to show results. I’ll concede they did combine well to set up the third goal, but that was the sum of their contributions. Delap missed another sitter yesterday. As Cloughie famously said “I pay you to score goals, young man”. Brown would have buried it because that’s what he’s paid to do. It’s time to drop Delap, play Brown up front and Fosu on the right wing (that’s what he’s paid to do).
We were very good yesterday but we can be better. We should have buried Hull by 6 or 7.
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Post by Picasso on Sept 14, 2022 21:46:57 GMT
Never mind ‘Hopefully he will never play there again’… You say that all Brown can do is ‘run a lot’, so what does the position matter? Try giving the manager some credit for manufacturing the win, try giving Brown some credit for being a part of the reason we won, try supporting the team. But I don’t think he was so why would I? 😂 I don’t think it’s a matter of opinion - He played in the winning team 😂 For the record, I would rather Brown play as a striker, but criticism for last night is unwarranted.
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Post by gawa on Sept 14, 2022 21:48:47 GMT
It is worth repeating he is the only striker to have scored this season. So it’s Gayle and Delap 0 - 1 Brown. He’s wasted playing out wide on the left or the right. Neil, and O’Neill before him, have tried to establish Gayle and Delap as twin strikers, but 20% into the season it has yet to show results. I’ll concede they did combine well to set up the third goal, but that was the sum of their contributions. Delap missed another sitter yesterday. As Cloughie famously said “I pay you to score goals, young man”. Brown would have buried it because that’s what he’s paid to do. It’s time to drop Delap, play Brown up front and Fosu on the right wing (that’s what he’s paid to do). We were very good yesterday but we can be better. We should have buried Hull by 6 or 7. He's scored twice
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 21:49:01 GMT
But I don’t think he was so why would I? 😂 I don’t think it’s a matter of opinion - He played in the winning team 😂 For the record, I would rather Brown play as a striker, but criticism for last night is unwarranted. So did Smallbone and he was gash. You can play in a winning team and not do much. 🤦♂️😂
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Post by kustokie on Sept 14, 2022 21:52:22 GMT
It is worth repeating he is the only striker to have scored this season. So it’s Gayle and Delap 0 - 1 Brown. He’s wasted playing out wide on the left or the right. Neil, and O’Neill before him, have tried to establish Gayle and Delap as twin strikers, but 20% into the season it has yet to show results. I’ll concede they did combine well to set up the third goal, but that was the sum of their contributions. Delap missed another sitter yesterday. As Cloughie famously said “I pay you to score goals, young man”. Brown would have buried it because that’s what he’s paid to do. It’s time to drop Delap, play Brown up front and Fosu on the right wing (that’s what he’s paid to do). We were very good yesterday but we can be better. We should have buried Hull by 6 or 7. He's scored twice I stand corrected. I revised the post. Thanks.
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Post by UsAndThem on Sept 14, 2022 21:56:10 GMT
😁 Still trying to worm out of it? Worn out of what? He can’t do basic stuff that footballers should be able to do. I take it that you have watched the reel of Brown’s goals from last year which I mentioned in my previous post to you and you have stopped pretending that he has got no footballing ability? I wasn’t debating whether he was a Rwb or not, I was merely opposing your opinion that ‘all he does is run’ and that he’s got no technical ability. If you haven’t seen the reel I have referred to then let me know and I’ll post a link.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 14, 2022 21:58:58 GMT
But I don’t think he was so why would I? 😂 I don’t think it’s a matter of opinion - He played in the winning team 😂 For the record, I would rather Brown play as a striker, but criticism for last night is unwarranted. Welcome to the Oatcake. A word of warning about arguing with the mega-poster. It’s like wrestling a greasy pig, but don’t get sucked in because he enjoys it and must have the last word.
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Post by Picasso on Sept 14, 2022 21:59:58 GMT
I don’t think it’s a matter of opinion - He played in the winning team 😂 For the record, I would rather Brown play as a striker, but criticism for last night is unwarranted. So did Smallbone and he was gash. You can play in a winning team and not do much. 🤦♂️😂 The point is that, Brown did much, much more than ‘not much’…. Of course you can play on a winning team and have a bad game individually, but if Brown is as consistently bad as you make out he wouldn’t have even made the first team last night 🤦🏻♂️😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 22:00:51 GMT
So did Smallbone and he was gash. You can play in a winning team and not do much. 🤦♂️😂 The point is that, Brown did much, much more than ‘not much’…. Of course you can play on a winning team and have a bad game individually, but if Brown is as consistently bad as you make out he wouldn’t have even made the first team last night 🤦🏻♂️😂 He didn’t. He did nothing. Which was about the best he could do. It was enough.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2022 22:01:36 GMT
Worn out of what? He can’t do basic stuff that footballers should be able to do. I take it that you have watched the reel of Brown’s goals from last year which I mentioned in my previous post to you and you have stopped pretending that he has got no footballing ability? I wasn’t debating whether he was a Rwb or not, I was merely opposing your opinion that ‘all he does is run’ and that he’s got no technical ability. If you haven’t seen the reel I have referred to then let me know and I’ll post a link. Most of his goals are when he has zero time to think which imo is a sign of a lack of technique and talent.
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Post by Picasso on Sept 14, 2022 22:03:28 GMT
I don’t think it’s a matter of opinion - He played in the winning team 😂 For the record, I would rather Brown play as a striker, but criticism for last night is unwarranted. Welcome to the Oatcake. A word of warning about arguing with the mega-poster. It’s like wrestling a greasy pig, but don’t get sucked in because he enjoys it and must have the last word. Yep. Just be nice if these ‘supporters’ actually supported.
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