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Aug 18, 2022 10:03:18 GMT
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Post by Boothenpotter89 on Aug 18, 2022 10:03:18 GMT
We are in a desperate situation . We CANNOT play Thompson there and last night showed it ….. For me we go and sign Cyrus Christie before the weekend Play him RWB and fosu LWB.
In the centre we can’t play jagielka he’s too slow and need a lcb Taylor flint wilmott until we sign a lcb and then wilmott will be benched .
If we don’t sign a player like Christie (who’s a free agent) we are going to just struggle until Tymon returns .
Another point Clucas is finished and the midfield should be baker Thompson smallbone
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Aug 18, 2022 10:05:53 GMT
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 18, 2022 10:05:53 GMT
I'd imagine if we did sign him he won't be match fit for 3 weeks knowing our luck.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 18, 2022 10:10:41 GMT
We are in a desperate situation . We CANNOT play Thompson there and last night showed it ….. For me we go and sign Cyrus Christie before the weekend Play him RWB and fosu LWB. In the centre we can’t play jagielka he’s too slow and need a lcb Taylor flint wilmott until we sign a lcb and then wilmott will be benched . If we don’t sign a player like Christie (who’s a free agent) we are going to just struggle until Tymon returns . Another point Clucas is finished and the midfield should be baker Thompson smallbone As sensible manager scraps it for now and plays a 4-2-1-3 My team would be Bursik Wilmot Taylor Jagielka Fox Kilkenny, Thompson Baker Brown Delap Gayle
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Aug 18, 2022 10:51:53 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 18, 2022 10:51:53 GMT
It’s possible that Fosu could play lwb, but being right footed, I doubt he will be as good as Thompson.
It’s one thing to cut in on the inside and be effective on your stronger foot, it’s a whole other ball game to try and set yourself up to tackle on your weaker side. Few players are any good at that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2022 10:54:30 GMT
Not sure why you'd play Fosu on the left given he's right footed, either way we shouldn't be using this formation but then I'm not sure any formation would look good when its clear the manager doesn't want them taking any risks, defend defend defend.
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Aug 18, 2022 10:58:31 GMT
Post by Timmy on Aug 18, 2022 10:58:31 GMT
We are in a desperate situation . We CANNOT play Thompson there and last night showed it ….. For me we go and sign Cyrus Christie before the weekend Play him RWB and fosu LWB. In the centre we can’t play jagielka he’s too slow and need a lcb Taylor flint wilmott until we sign a lcb and then wilmott will be benched . If we don’t sign a player like Christie (who’s a free agent) we are going to just struggle until Tymon returns . Another point Clucas is finished and the midfield should be baker Thompson smallbone Nail on the head with a lot of your comments here. Carrying Clucas in midfield yesterday was glaringly obvious, it took MoN till the 75th minute to realise that the midfield was getting dominated due to Clucas's lack of ability to come to the ball and get on it. Bringing Kilkenny on released Baker which gave more balance to the midfield. The CB situation is extremely worrying, Jags is finished, Taylor is way off the level we need right now. LCB / Flint / Wilmott is the way to go for now.
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Aug 18, 2022 11:01:54 GMT
Post by Caddick988 on Aug 18, 2022 11:01:54 GMT
If we are going to stick as a back 5 then I'd be half tempted with Wilmott as RWB and Fox LWB whilst Tymon and Clarke are injured.
We could go 4-2-3-1 and stick Campbell wide right and Fosu on the left as inside forwards but I think I'd rather with the top suggestion.
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Aug 18, 2022 11:10:32 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 18, 2022 11:10:32 GMT
If we are going to stick as a back 5 then I'd be half tempted with Wilmott as RWB and Fox LWB whilst Tymon and Clarke are injured. We could go 4-2-3-1 and stick Campbell wide right and Fosu on the left as inside forwards but I think I'd rather with the top suggestion. I wouldn't play Fox at lwb to be honest, he's very limited and only left back or left side of a back 3 for me I'd go for a back 4, then either a 2-3-1, a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with Fox at left back and Wilmot right. Either way the manager has been the architect of this plan. This board knew that going for a 3-5-2 with little back up was dangerous and so it's proving
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 18, 2022 11:48:44 GMT
Wtf will he do up front?
Either Brown or Gayle would be rightfully pissed if dropped and Delap isn't here to get splinters in his arse.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 18, 2022 11:50:02 GMT
We are in a desperate situation . We CANNOT play Thompson there and last night showed it ….. For me we go and sign Cyrus Christie before the weekend Play him RWB and fosu LWB. In the centre we can’t play jagielka he’s too slow and need a lcb Taylor flint wilmott until we sign a lcb and then wilmott will be benched . If we don’t sign a player like Christie (who’s a free agent) we are going to just struggle until Tymon returns . Another point Clucas is finished and the midfield should be baker Thompson smallbone As sensible manager scraps it for now and plays a 4-2-1-3 My team would be Bursik Wilmot Taylor Jagielka Fox Kilkenny, Thompson Baker Brown Delap Gayle Me too. Don’t expect much attacking effort from the back four as the front four have enough to do the job
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 18, 2022 11:53:02 GMT
Wtf will he do up front? Either Brown or Gayle would be rightfully pissed if dropped and Delap isn't here to get splinters in his arse. anyone in their right mind would play 3 up top. When O'Neil came he played 433 for quite a period, hoping he will revert back to it Also noticed O'Neil said that Gayle had a knock so it might be the perfect excuse to leave him out
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Aug 19, 2022 12:58:14 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 19, 2022 12:58:14 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it
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Aug 19, 2022 13:04:39 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 19, 2022 13:04:39 GMT
So which players are going to play out of position to suit his stupid 5 at the back?
I think he is doing it, just to piss the Stoke fans off.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 19, 2022 13:05:05 GMT
This does all feel like POMO under Barker.
Brainwashed by a system and doing anything he can with whatever players he can to implement it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 13:05:38 GMT
There is no hope with him in charge.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 19, 2022 13:06:47 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it Yes, other teams play the way you do, but they have the players for it, you idiot.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 19, 2022 13:11:11 GMT
Oh fuck off.
He managed to quote two games, one about 10 months ago, where it’s worked well.
With no Tymon there is no point in playing a back 5.
Bloody hell, utterly depressing quotes they are.
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Aug 19, 2022 13:12:06 GMT
Post by mcw on Aug 19, 2022 13:12:06 GMT
This does all feel like POMO under Barker. Brainwashed by a system and doing anything he can with whatever players he can to implement it. Is crazy to persist with this back 5 at the current moment. I don't think I have witnessed such a drubbing as versus Middlesborough in a long while, we became a back 8. As soon as Middlesborough got the upper hand the "WB"s were pushed right up and forcing Thompson/Fosu to pretty much play the entirety of the game at the edge of our box. With no one in the CB 3 looking remotely comfortable with stepping out/up into midfield it meant we were then short there and Smallbone/Baker and Clucas were effectively chasing shadows for the whole game. Get back to a 4-4-2 or some variation to at least get us competing in the middle part of the pitch. Gayle/Brown must have been pulling their hair out as they were totally isolated with no possibility of any link up play except with themselves...
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 19, 2022 13:13:36 GMT
We also have 4/5 very good attacking players in brown, Gayle, delap, Campbell and DWP.
A 3-5-2 only allows two of them to be played.
We need a formation that plays 3 of them!
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Aug 19, 2022 13:21:02 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 19, 2022 13:21:02 GMT
If not now, you do wonder what it'd take to prompt a change? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-sunderland-team-news-7486508Given the injuries, will you look at changing the formation?MON: Those are things you always have to consider with injuries. We've built the squad to play in a certain way and we've signed players of a certain type so it's not just as easy having spent six weeks from pre-season working something to then rip it up. We always have to be mindful that we can potentially change the system but it's a consistent system in this league. There are a lot of teams playing it. I don't envisage we'll be looking in that direction at this minute in time.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 13:26:45 GMT
Am I allowed to criticise MON for this or do I have to include the owners?...
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Aug 19, 2022 13:26:50 GMT
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Post by hollywood on Aug 19, 2022 13:26:50 GMT
If not now, you do wonder what it'd take to prompt a change? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-sunderland-team-news-7486508Given the injuries, will you look at changing the formation?MON: Those are things you always have to consider with injuries. We've built the squad to play in a certain way and we've signed players of a certain type so it's not just as easy having spent six weeks from pre-season working something to then rip it up. We always have to be mindful that we can potentially change the system but it's a consistent system in this league. There are a lot of teams playing it. I don't envisage we'll be looking in that direction at this minute in time. Utter madness.
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Aug 19, 2022 13:30:57 GMT
Post by gawa on Aug 19, 2022 13:30:57 GMT
Not the best of interviews there in my opinion, don't think he delivered his point across very well and referencing a 1-0 win last season where the system worked will be used against him rather than for him.
I agree with the closing statement whereby he said that playing a back 4 will require someone to be played out of position too, which factually is correct as well. And with a full squad available then I can certainly see the argument for a back 5. But with how things are right now from an injury pov, I feel he should at least be working on a Plan B and take each game on a game by game basis deploying whichever formation works best for the task at hand.
Still feeling confident for Saturday whether it's a back 4 or 5 that we use. But if we were playing a Watford or Norwich, it's hard to feel confident :/
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 19, 2022 13:38:47 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it Yes, other teams play the way you do, but they have the players for it, you idiot. I take you didn’t hear his point of playing a CH at right back in a back four. We’re currently in trouble because of injuries to players to play in whatever formation he chooses. It’s going to be difficult for at least a month until we see improvement in injuries and the return to fitness of certain players
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 19, 2022 13:58:35 GMT
Yes, other teams play the way you do, but they have the players for it, you idiot. I take you didn’t hear his point of playing a CH at right back in a back four. We’re currently in trouble because of injuries to players to play in whatever formation he chooses. It’s going to be difficult for at least a month until we see improvement in injuries and the return to fitness of certain players Having to play Wilmot (if fit) or Sparrow at RB in a 4 feels like less of a problem than playing a winger and central midfielder at wing-back, having to play three from a weak stable of central defenders and having to leave out 2 of Gayle, Delap, Campbell and Brown every week
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 19, 2022 14:03:03 GMT
Am I allowed to criticise MON for this or do I have to include the owners?... And the supporters 😀
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Post by iamstokie on Aug 19, 2022 14:26:48 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it The fuckwit signed players who don’t suit a back 5 , this clown really needs fucking off
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Post by iamstokie on Aug 19, 2022 14:31:12 GMT
Not the best of interviews there in my opinion, don't think he delivered his point across very well and referencing a 1-0 win last season where the system worked will be used against him rather than for him. I agree with the closing statement whereby he said that playing a back 4 will require someone to be played out of position too, which factually is correct as well. And with a full squad available then I can certainly see the argument for a back 5. But with how things are right now from an injury pov, I feel he should at least be working on a Plan B and take each game on a game by game basis deploying whichever formation works best for the task at hand. Still feeling confident for Saturday whether it's a back 4 or 5 that we use. But if we were playing a Watford or Norwich, it's hard to feel confident :/ He plays a 5 at the back without having players to play there , we don’t have a rwb, Clarke is a rcb or rb, fosu only played 4 games there and over 100 on the wing , we also have a rcb playing lcb, so his excuses are just poor shit as per normal
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Aug 19, 2022 14:32:24 GMT
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Post by iamstokie on Aug 19, 2022 14:32:24 GMT
I take you didn’t hear his point of playing a CH at right back in a back four. We’re currently in trouble because of injuries to players to play in whatever formation he chooses. It’s going to be difficult for at least a month until we see improvement in injuries and the return to fitness of certain players Having to play Wilmot (if fit) or Sparrow at RB in a 4 feels like less of a problem than playing a winger and central midfielder at wing-back, having to play three from a weak stable of central defenders and having to leave out 2 of Gayle, Delap, Campbell and Brown every week This , but happy clappers are still clapping 🤦♂️
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Aug 19, 2022 14:37:11 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 19, 2022 14:37:11 GMT
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