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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 19, 2022 14:37:45 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it I'm absolutely sick to death of listening to his utter nonsense, honestly I've never heard so much rubbish in all my life. He even struggled to think of the teams we beat when playing this system, Jesus what a stubborn bloke he is.
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Aug 19, 2022 14:42:28 GMT
Post by Northy on Aug 19, 2022 14:42:28 GMT
If not now, you do wonder what it'd take to prompt a change? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-sunderland-team-news-7486508Given the injuries, will you look at changing the formation?MON: Those are things you always have to consider with injuries. We've built the squad to play in a certain way and we've signed players of a certain type so it's not just as easy having spent six weeks from pre-season working something to then rip it up. We always have to be mindful that we can potentially change the system but it's a consistent system in this league. There are a lot of teams playing it. I don't envisage we'll be looking in that direction at this minute in time. 6 weeks and only working on 1 system, utter madness !
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 19, 2022 14:54:26 GMT
Oh fuck off. He managed to quote two games, one about 10 months ago, where it’s worked well. With no Tymon there is no point in playing a back 5. Bloody hell, utterly depressing quotes they are. There was a long gap between him saying Blackpool and.....err....West Brom to be fair! He's talking like a mad man who thinks he's one piece away from completing the jigsaw. He'll get the next piece and he'll still be one piece away I'm afraid I've lost the faith.
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Aug 19, 2022 15:34:35 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 15:34:35 GMT
Not the best of interviews there in my opinion, don't think he delivered his point across very well and referencing a 1-0 win last season where the system worked will be used against him rather than for him. I agree with the closing statement whereby he said that playing a back 4 will require someone to be played out of position too, which factually is correct as well. And with a full squad available then I can certainly see the argument for a back 5. But with how things are right now from an injury pov, I feel he should at least be working on a Plan B and take each game on a game by game basis deploying whichever formation works best for the task at hand. Still feeling confident for Saturday whether it's a back 4 or 5 that we use. But if we were playing a Watford or Norwich, it's hard to feel confident :/ He plays a 5 at the back without having players to play there , we don’t have a rwb, Clarke is a rcb or rb, fosu only played 4 games there and over 100 on the wing , we also have a rcb playing lcb, so his excuses are just poor shit as per normal Your WB point doesn't stack up. Very few WB's have come up as WB's they're nearly all either converted FB's or Wingers and you're complaining about both. Play defenders at WB and it's a very negative system, play attacking players (wingers) you've got people bleating they're not solid enough defensively (Fosu). You can do the latter if you make sure you have a very disciplined structure in CM but the manager refuses to do that too.
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Aug 19, 2022 15:37:50 GMT
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Post by gawa on Aug 19, 2022 15:37:50 GMT
Not the best of interviews there in my opinion, don't think he delivered his point across very well and referencing a 1-0 win last season where the system worked will be used against him rather than for him. I agree with the closing statement whereby he said that playing a back 4 will require someone to be played out of position too, which factually is correct as well. And with a full squad available then I can certainly see the argument for a back 5. But with how things are right now from an injury pov, I feel he should at least be working on a Plan B and take each game on a game by game basis deploying whichever formation works best for the task at hand. Still feeling confident for Saturday whether it's a back 4 or 5 that we use. But if we were playing a Watford or Norwich, it's hard to feel confident :/ He plays a 5 at the back without having players to play there , we don’t have a rwb, Clarke is a rcb or rb, fosu only played 4 games there and over 100 on the wing , we also have a rcb playing lcb, so his excuses are just poor shit as per normal Aye we all know the problems but it's about finding a solution. The Fosu stuff I don't buy into, Brentford have been retraining him as RWB and on their forum all the recent chat of the last 6 months is about him as RWB. Nobody discusses him being a winger. Jack Clarke is an example of a winger come wing back. Fosu v Clarke on Saturday could be a decent battle
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 15:38:25 GMT
Oh fuck off. He managed to quote two games, one about 10 months ago, where it’s worked well. With no Tymon there is no point in playing a back 5. Bloody hell, utterly depressing quotes they are. There was a long gap between him saying Blackpool and.....err....West Brom to be fair! He's talking like a mad man who thinks he's one piece away from completing the jigsaw. He'll get the next piece and he'll still be one piece away I'm afraid I've lost the faith. That's how far he has to go back even with his own positive spin on his work to come up with the previous decent performance? Ah well at least he's not kidding himself it isn't utter shit most weeks.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 19, 2022 15:41:54 GMT
He plays a 5 at the back without having players to play there , we don’t have a rwb, Clarke is a rcb or rb, fosu only played 4 games there and over 100 on the wing , we also have a rcb playing lcb, so his excuses are just poor shit as per normal Aye we all know the problems but it's about finding a solution. The Fosu stuff I don't buy into, Brentford have been retraining him as RWB and on their forum all the recent chat of the last 6 months is about him as RWB. Nobody discusses him being a winger. Jack Clarke is an example of a winger come wing back. Fosu v Clarke on Saturday could be a decent battle They probably don't discuss Fosu being a winger because hardly anyone fields them. They're all being converted to WB's or wide forwards.
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Aug 19, 2022 17:13:08 GMT
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Post by iamstokie on Aug 19, 2022 17:13:08 GMT
He plays a 5 at the back without having players to play there , we don’t have a rwb, Clarke is a rcb or rb, fosu only played 4 games there and over 100 on the wing , we also have a rcb playing lcb, so his excuses are just poor shit as per normal Aye we all know the problems but it's about finding a solution. The Fosu stuff I don't buy into, Brentford have been retraining him as RWB and on their forum all the recent chat of the last 6 months is about him as RWB. Nobody discusses him being a winger. Jack Clarke is an example of a winger come wing back. Fosu v Clarke on Saturday could be a decent battle Yeah discussion makes you a proper wing back 🙄, muppet
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Aug 19, 2022 17:56:25 GMT
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Post by prudhoesnose on Aug 19, 2022 17:56:25 GMT
Dealing with an injury crisis like ours, surely a manager should choose the best formation, with the players available to him, to grind out enough points until the key players for his preferred formation are fit again. It’s sensible whereas MON’s either being stubborn or blind.
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Aug 19, 2022 17:59:12 GMT
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Post by milky on Aug 19, 2022 17:59:12 GMT
So who is going to get the LWB role tomorrow?
Clucas ? Campbell ? Fox ? Flint ? Bonham?
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Aug 19, 2022 18:12:59 GMT
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Post by Uttoxstokie on Aug 19, 2022 18:12:59 GMT
Dealing with an injury crisis like ours, surely a manager should choose the best formation, with the players available to him, to grind out enough points until the key players for his preferred formation are fit again. It’s sensible whereas MON’s either being stubborn or blind. Exactly. Too much common sense though for this guy.
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Aug 19, 2022 18:14:13 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 19, 2022 18:14:13 GMT
So who is going to get the LWB role tomorrow? Clucas ? Campbell ? Fox ? Flint ? Bonham? No doubt we're lumbered with Thompson there for the next couple of months. It's enough to turn anyone to drink.
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Aug 19, 2022 18:15:40 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 19, 2022 18:15:40 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing.
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Aug 19, 2022 18:16:12 GMT
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Post by Bagwash on Aug 19, 2022 18:16:12 GMT
So who is going to get the LWB role tomorrow? Clucas ? Campbell ? Fox ? Flint ? Bonham? Wouldn't suprise me if the fool finds a place for Clucas.Couldnt give him away 12 months ago but now starting regularly.....madness.
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Post by march4 on Aug 19, 2022 18:23:23 GMT
The defence is a shambles.
Midfield is a non-existent muddle.
Attack is an underused part of the team.
Two players simply cannot play in the same positions tomorrow as they did on Wednesday - Thompson and Smallbone.
Thompson at least can take Clucas’ position in midfield.
Smallbone already looking out of his depth. I would try Brown behind the two main strikers (Delap and Gayle).
Still leaves an issue at left wing back so let’s scrap the dreadful 5 at the back and go 433 or 442.
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Aug 19, 2022 18:32:26 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 19, 2022 18:32:26 GMT
Oh fuck off. He managed to quote two games, one about 10 months ago, where it’s worked well. With no Tymon there is no point in playing a back 5. Bloody hell, utterly depressing quotes they are. There was a long gap between him saying Blackpool and.....err....West Brom to be fair! He's talking like a mad man who thinks he's one piece away from completing the jigsaw. He'll get the next piece and he'll still be one piece away I'm afraid I've lost the faith. He's trying to piece together a tiger but doesn't realise he's bought a box of frosties!
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Aug 19, 2022 18:42:54 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 19, 2022 18:42:54 GMT
If not now, you do wonder what it'd take to prompt a change? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-sunderland-team-news-7486508Given the injuries, will you look at changing the formation?MON: Those are things you always have to consider with injuries. We've built the squad to play in a certain way and we've signed players of a certain type so it's not just as easy having spent six weeks from pre-season working something to then rip it up. We always have to be mindful that we can potentially change the system but it's a consistent system in this league. There are a lot of teams playing it. I don't envisage we'll be looking in that direction at this minute in time. 6 weeks and only working on 1 system, utter madness ! I completely disagree! The system doesn’t work for us 🙈🤣🪓
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Post by greenhoff on Aug 19, 2022 18:45:16 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. You're just on a wind up now
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Aug 19, 2022 18:46:42 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 19, 2022 18:46:42 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. You're just on a wind up now When I saw that post it just confirmed it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 18:48:12 GMT
The defence is a shambles. Midfield is a non-existent muddle. Attack is an underused part of the team. Two players simply cannot play in the same positions tomorrow as they did on Wednesday - Thompson and Smallbone. Thompson at least can take Clucas’ position in midfield. Smallbone already looking out of his depth. I would try Brown behind the two main strikers (Delap and Gayle). Still leaves an issue at left wing back so let’s scrap the dreadful 5 at the back and go 433 or 442. Smallbone is a very good footballer (poor against Boro granted) but he needs two disciplined midfielders behind him. I predict he will be the scapegoat for Wednesday with Kilkenny and Thompson playing behind Baker which will leave us with zero creativity. Smallbone was shunted over from the left to the right of the two 8s to accommodate Clucas for some bizarre reason.
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Aug 19, 2022 19:06:18 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 19, 2022 19:06:18 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. You're just on a wind up now What do you mean"now"? He's been on a wind up for months
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Aug 19, 2022 19:10:36 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2022 19:10:36 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it Madness.
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Aug 19, 2022 19:42:41 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 19, 2022 19:42:41 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. You're just on a wind up now I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised to see us line up with a back four tomorrow. I think he's bluffing.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 19, 2022 19:48:45 GMT
Trust the gaffer. He knows what he's doing. You're just on a wind up now He's been on a wind up ever since it was shown his support for the manager was misplaced. It's a bit tedious.
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Aug 19, 2022 19:51:00 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 19, 2022 19:51:00 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it So it's better to stay with the wing-back formation, even though we currently don't have any wing-backs then??? Even when Tymon is fit, we only have one recognised wing-back!!!
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Aug 19, 2022 19:53:12 GMT
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Post by windows1 on Aug 19, 2022 19:53:12 GMT
No change of formation by the looks of it I see it from both angles. MON wants to play a back 5, thats what he wants to play. I would judge him a whole lot more if he just dropped the back 5 and played 4 at the back. He's tried to recruit for the back 5 all summer. If he drops it now he looks weak to the fans. If that what he wants to play then stick with it! I would have alot more respect for him. HOWEVER, We dont have the players for a back 5. The most important positions for a back 5 are the wing backs. Arguably we have 1 put and out wing back. He failed to delivery on his own idea! Other teams play a back 5.... granted. But they are less tactically inept than us! Boro played a back 5 on wednesday and looked in different league than us.
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Post by Championship Potter on Aug 19, 2022 19:53:55 GMT
Wonder if it’s a bluff? Probably sensible to not volunteer a formation change to your opponents when they’ve been preparing for playing against a back 5. Maybe I’m giving him too much credit!
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Aug 19, 2022 19:56:17 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 19, 2022 19:56:17 GMT
Wonder if it’s a bluff? Probably sensible to not volunteer a formation change to your opponents when they’ve been preparing for playing against a back 5. Maybe I’m giving him too much credit! Exactly what I'm thinking.
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Aug 19, 2022 20:58:46 GMT
Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 19, 2022 20:58:46 GMT
I take you didn’t hear his point of playing a CH at right back in a back four. We’re currently in trouble because of injuries to players to play in whatever formation he chooses. It’s going to be difficult for at least a month until we see improvement in injuries and the return to fitness of certain players Having to play Wilmot (if fit) or Sparrow at RB in a 4 feels like less of a problem than playing a winger and central midfielder at wing-back, having to play three from a weak stable of central defenders and having to leave out 2 of Gayle, Delap, Campbell and Brown every week I do apologise. I can’t understand your comments re Gayle, Delap, Campbell and Brown every week? Being thick 😁
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Aug 19, 2022 21:02:45 GMT
Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 19, 2022 21:02:45 GMT
So who is going to get the LWB role tomorrow? Clucas ? Campbell ? Fox ? Flint ? Bonham? Wouldn't suprise me if the fool finds a place for Clucas.Couldnt give him away 12 months ago but now starting regularly.....madness. Who are the left sided alternatives?
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