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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 7, 2022 9:48:29 GMT
Smallbone is different gravy, what a absolute baller, nick Powell won't get his place whilst hes fit. No possibility Powell doesn’t start when fit. Does all Smallbone does and wins headers, scores goals and wins tackles.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 7, 2022 9:51:35 GMT
I did 😂I wasn’t impressed. He wasn’t terrible but I was shocked with his control etc. I agree he lost possession several times due to poor touch. Loved his early passing but he was similar to Sawyers defensively, far too easy to get past. I suspect will be an impact sub once Powell is fit
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 7, 2022 10:29:45 GMT
Whether you think Smallbone played well or not there were definitely promising signs regarding his creativity that I think we’re going to need to this season. I thought it was a good performance but also that there’s things for him to improve on so I can sort of see where people like Bayern are coming from.
A bit of play that stood out for me was in the build up for our 2nd where the ball was played to Smallbone who was able to take a perfect touch, killing the ball dead for Baker, who was then able to play a good ball out wide. Things like that might seem trivial but are actually important.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 7, 2022 10:36:49 GMT
We're a lot more balanced with Smallbone in the team and he has to start every game.
Taylor is looking a decent defender and starts for me ahead of Wilmot even if we sign a LCB.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 10:39:59 GMT
We're a lot more balanced with Smallbone in the team and he has to start every game. Taylor is looking a decent defender and starts for me ahead of Wilmot even if we sign a LCB. Taylor could be our next Collins & Soutar, big money in the bank for Stoke in the future.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 10:41:35 GMT
Whether you think Smallbone played well or not there were definitely promising signs regarding his creativity that I think we’re going to need to this season. I thought it was a good performance but also that there’s things for him to improve on so I can sort of see where people like Bayern are coming from. A bit of play that stood out for me was in the build up for our 2nd where the ball was played to Smallbone who was able to take a perfect touch, killing the ball dead for Baker, who was then able to play a good ball out wide. Things like that might seem trivial but are actually important. Oh yeah there definitely were and he needs to play. I just don’t think he played that well.
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Post by a on Aug 7, 2022 11:18:18 GMT
We're a lot more balanced with Smallbone in the team and he has to start every game. Taylor is looking a decent defender and starts for me ahead of Wilmot even if we sign a LCB. Taylor could be our next Collins & Soutar, big money in the bank for Stoke in the future. Shame we don’t have all three to play for us now.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 7, 2022 11:44:31 GMT
We're a lot more balanced with Smallbone in the team and he has to start every game. Taylor is looking a decent defender and starts for me ahead of Wilmot even if we sign a LCB. LCB and Taylor to start for sure. Just a question of who else starts out of Wilmot, Flint, and Jags until Souttar is back.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 7, 2022 12:04:54 GMT
We're a lot more balanced with Smallbone in the team and he has to start every game. Taylor is looking a decent defender and starts for me ahead of Wilmot even if we sign a LCB. LCB and Taylor to start for sure. Just a question of who else starts out of Wilmot, Flint, and Jags until Souttar is back. If he's fit enough it's Jags every time for me. Flint hasn't showed me anything to change my mind that he was a bad signing. If Wilmot doesn't improve this season he needs to he sold.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 7, 2022 12:07:11 GMT
LCB and Taylor to start for sure. Just a question of who else starts out of Wilmot, Flint, and Jags until Souttar is back. If he's fit enough it's Jags every time for me. Flint hasn't showed me anything to change my mind that he was a bad signing. If Wilmot doesn't improve this season he needs to he sold. A back 3 of Jags Souttar and Taylor is certainly a hell of a back 3
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Post by lordb on Aug 7, 2022 12:10:18 GMT
LCB and Taylor to start for sure. Just a question of who else starts out of Wilmot, Flint, and Jags until Souttar is back. If he's fit enough it's Jags every time for me. Flint hasn't showed me anything to change my mind that he was a bad signing. If Wilmot doesn't improve this season he needs to he sold. Played well yesterday
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 7, 2022 12:12:11 GMT
If he's fit enough it's Jags every time for me. Flint hasn't showed me anything to change my mind that he was a bad signing. If Wilmot doesn't improve this season he needs to he sold. Played well yesterday Who ?
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Post by lordb on Aug 7, 2022 12:19:18 GMT
Wilmot poor v Millwall, spot on yesterday
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 7, 2022 13:31:32 GMT
LCB and Taylor to start for sure. Just a question of who else starts out of Wilmot, Flint, and Jags until Souttar is back. If he's fit enough it's Jags every time for me. Flint hasn't showed me anything to change my mind that he was a bad signing. If Wilmot doesn't improve this season he needs to he sold. Well this dream team won’t last long. Jags is off after Christmas and at 40 y/old, probably into a well-earned retirement.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 7, 2022 18:27:04 GMT
Thought Wilmot was excellent. Him on the right of a three, transforms that side. This was a joke I guess!? Wilmot was indeed excellent, the only defender capable of bringing the ball out from the back and running at the opposition midfield positions, yes he misplaces odd passes but rarely chooses the simple sideways pass. He also won just about every challenge against Bowler on a one on one whereas Bowler skipped past Tymon regularly. I really don't understand where this Wilmot bashing has come from.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 7, 2022 18:32:13 GMT
This was a joke I guess!? Wilmot was indeed excellent, the only defender capable of bringing the ball out from the back and running at the opposition midfield positions, yes he misplaces odd passes but rarely chooses the simple sideways pass. He also won just about every challenge against Bowler on a one on one whereas Bowler skipped past Tymon regularly. I really don't understand where this Wilmot bashing has come from. It was dangerous every time he got the ball, and most of Blackpool's dangerous attacks came from Wilmot misplacing passes or being too easy to get past. Their winger had a field day against Wilmot. I really can't understand why people thought he played that well, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In this case I really don't share your opinion though.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 7, 2022 18:39:24 GMT
Wilmot was indeed excellent, the only defender capable of bringing the ball out from the back and running at the opposition midfield positions, yes he misplaces odd passes but rarely chooses the simple sideways pass. He also won just about every challenge against Bowler on a one on one whereas Bowler skipped past Tymon regularly. I really don't understand where this Wilmot bashing has come from. It was dangerous every time he got the ball, and most of Blackpool's dangerous attacks came from Wilmot misplacing passes or being too easy to get past. Their winger had a field day against Wilmot. I really can't understand why people thought he played that well, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In this case I really don't share your opinion though. Last season Josh Bowler tore Stoke apart on his own, yesterday I don't think he once beat Wilmot on a one and one yet skipped past Tymon on a couple of occasions. Wilmot was excellent yesterday.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 7, 2022 18:53:27 GMT
It was dangerous every time he got the ball, and most of Blackpool's dangerous attacks came from Wilmot misplacing passes or being too easy to get past. Their winger had a field day against Wilmot. I really can't understand why people thought he played that well, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In this case I really don't share your opinion though. Last season Josh Bowler tore Stoke apart on his own, yesterday I don't think he once beat Wilmot on a one and one yet skipped past Tymon on a couple of occasions. Wilmot was excellent yesterday. In my opinion he was our weakest link!
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 7, 2022 18:56:05 GMT
This was a joke I guess!? Wilmot was indeed excellent, the only defender capable of bringing the ball out from the back and running at the opposition midfield positions, yes he misplaces odd passes but rarely chooses the simple sideways pass. He also won just about every challenge against Bowler on a one on one whereas Bowler skipped past Tymon regularly. I really don't understand where this Wilmot bashing has come from. Spot on, I think people forget Wilmot is only 22 aswell.
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 7, 2022 18:58:39 GMT
Smallbone is different gravy, what a absolute baller, nick Powell won't get his place whilst hes fit. Good.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 7, 2022 19:00:15 GMT
I like the look of Taylor - he is very much in the Harry Souttar mould. Tall, physically imposing, yet good on the ball.
You can see why we were willing to let Forrester leave.
I thought that Smallbone looked really promising. He looks bright, intelligent, and creative.
I did not think he played as well as some are making out on this thread, but there were some really, really good signs. It will be exciting to see how he develops once he settles in.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 7, 2022 19:10:30 GMT
I like the look of Taylor - he is very much in the Harry Souttar mould. Tall, physically imposing, yet good on the ball. You can see why we were willing to let Forrester leave. I thought that Smallbone looked really promising. He looks bright, intelligent, and creative. I did not think he played as well as some are making out on this thread, but there were some really, really good signs. It will be exciting to see how he develops once he settles in. I think there is high praise for Smallbone because he brings a breath of fresh air to the team. We’ve been missing this type of player for god knows how long.
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Post by pmjh on Aug 7, 2022 21:11:19 GMT
Depends on the type of passes they are trying to make. players like Smallbone, Powell and Charlie Adam who try to create will usually have a lower PA than Players like Whelan for example, who are there to retain possession. I know that. But the overall rating is the lowest of the outfield players. Now I’ve put an asterix in my original comment you’ve quoted for good reason. But my hope was that it shows why it’s not such an outlandish claim. I didn’t think it would be either. I thought he was clearly our worst player on the day 😂 And you were clearly wrong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 21:12:58 GMT
I know that. But the overall rating is the lowest of the outfield players. Now I’ve put an asterix in my original comment you’ve quoted for good reason. But my hope was that it shows why it’s not such an outlandish claim. I didn’t think it would be either. I thought he was clearly our worst player on the day 😂 And you were clearly wrong. In what way? The player ratings based on the stats suggest my view mirrored that more than any other view. He just didn’t do much.
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Post by nathstoke86 on Aug 7, 2022 21:16:08 GMT
Maybe people will not agree smallbone has got some quality but the thing what pissed me off was he's always knocking the ball in the air when going forward and it was hard for Gayle n brown control when he could of played it more on the ground just east option hit it high
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Post by pmjh on Aug 7, 2022 21:17:28 GMT
The same stats that you regularly say are unreliable.
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Post by whatsashig on Aug 7, 2022 21:21:35 GMT
Smalbone at times had the confidence to play a first time ball and when doing so made a hige difference. Taylor great adventurer coming forward but defensively easily wrong footed when folk running at him, when he’s close he did things right. All early days but good performance from both. That game they they will both learn from me reasons
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2022 21:27:31 GMT
The same stats that you regularly say are unreliable. Indeed hence the asterix. I just thought it bounced off him more often than not and wasn’t impressed. I don’t think anyone that started played worse but he wasn’t terrible and he needs to play whilst Powell is out.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 7, 2022 22:16:29 GMT
Wilmot was indeed excellent, the only defender capable of bringing the ball out from the back and running at the opposition midfield positions, yes he misplaces odd passes but rarely chooses the simple sideways pass. He also won just about every challenge against Bowler on a one on one whereas Bowler skipped past Tymon regularly. I really don't understand where this Wilmot bashing has come from. It was dangerous every time he got the ball, and most of Blackpool's dangerous attacks came from Wilmot misplacing passes or being too easy to get past. Their winger had a field day against Wilmot. I really can't understand why people thought he played that well, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In this case I really don't share your opinion though. Wilmot doesn't always choose the safe pass that's for sure but if you don't try the ambitious pass you create less. As long as it's not in our box I'm not worried about him giving away a few passes when trying to create something with an ambitious pass.
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Post by gawa on Aug 7, 2022 22:35:31 GMT
It was dangerous every time he got the ball, and most of Blackpool's dangerous attacks came from Wilmot misplacing passes or being too easy to get past. Their winger had a field day against Wilmot. I really can't understand why people thought he played that well, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In this case I really don't share your opinion though. Wilmot doesn't always choose the safe pass that's for sure but if you don't try the ambitious pass you create less. As long as it's not in our box I'm not worried about him giving away a few passes when trying to create something with an ambitious pass. One of his ambitious passes lead to gayles chance which was well saved. Now tbf most of the good work was down by Gayle but its an example of a goalscoring opportunity created from taking a chance.
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