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Post by gingerninja on Jul 27, 2021 12:31:04 GMT
I have watched the pre season games we have had, an anybody who can't see that he has improved immeasurably, obviously has an agenda. Yes there are area's he still needs to improve on, but boy he looks 100% better than he did last season. I can see him getting quite a few assists this season.
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Post by fca47 on Jul 27, 2021 12:40:12 GMT
Made some decent passes in the game. Finishing still ropey though.
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Post by george2again on Jul 27, 2021 12:54:43 GMT
I have watched the pre season games we have had, an anybody who can't see that he has improved immeasurably, obviously has an agenda. Yes there are area's he still needs to improve on, but boy he looks 100% better than he did last season. I can see him getting quite a few assists this season. He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 27, 2021 12:57:43 GMT
I have watched the pre season games we have had, an anybody who can't see that he has improved immeasurably, obviously has an agenda. Yes there are area's he still needs to improve on, but boy he looks 100% better than he did last season. I can see him getting quite a few assists this season. He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. So even if he improves he's useless? How does that even make sense?
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Post by Gods on Jul 27, 2021 13:16:37 GMT
Since we are now shopping in ASDA I think we will have to get used to the idea that we will have some players who offer mostly nuisance value and provided it's a big nuisance to the opposition then there is merit in it.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 27, 2021 13:19:54 GMT
I have watched the pre season games we have had, an anybody who can't see that he has improved immeasurably, obviously has an agenda. Yes there are area's he still needs to improve on, but boy he looks 100% better than he did last season. I can see him getting quite a few assists this season. You're right that in pre-season friendlies an improvement in performance is immeasurable.
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Post by crowey on Jul 27, 2021 13:20:49 GMT
…. oh, I see we now have a Jacob Brown thread all for himself
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Post by crowey on Jul 27, 2021 13:22:57 GMT
Since we are now shopping in ASDA I think we will have to get used to the idea that we will have some players who offer mostly nuisance value and provided it's a big nuisance to the opposition then there is merit in it. … like the sentiment. JB better than Gregory
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Post by Batfink on Jul 27, 2021 13:33:12 GMT
I half expected an argument about Norton within this thread. Pleasantly surprised.
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Post by mamasgloves on Jul 27, 2021 13:37:55 GMT
He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. So even if he improves he's useless? How does that even make sense? Because he was starting from "absymal" Agree he looks better but he is still poor in the final third and a hat-trick against Linfield's reserves doesn't change that
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Post by nonameface on Jul 27, 2021 13:47:57 GMT
Has the potential to be a really good player for us.
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Post by crowey on Jul 27, 2021 13:56:12 GMT
…. I think he will do better this season
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 27, 2021 14:00:47 GMT
He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. So even if he improves he's useless? How does that even make sense? Same every season,it is like groundhog day,the usual posters jump on the roundabout screaming their usual "support" ,the player may change but the same shit spews out,just give every player your support , it would make a nice change. Flak jacket on .
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 27, 2021 14:23:32 GMT
So even if he improves he's useless? How does that even make sense? Because he was starting from "absymal" Agree he looks better but he is still poor in the final third and a hat-trick against Linfield's reserves doesn't change that Even if he was abysmal you're saying he can't improve enough to be good enough - which isn't even rational. And anyway at no point was he abysmal - he's always put a shift in and yes he was raw and frustrating but by the end of the season he was playing well and the improvement has continued preseason. You're basically saying you've made up your mind about Brown and regardless of what he does on the pitch you are not going to change your preconceived ideas about him. It says more about your mindset than Brown's footballing ability.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 27, 2021 14:40:52 GMT
I think there is a player in there waiting to break out.
Campbell was not flavour of the month on here for some time. His father wanted him to leave due to lack of game time.
He like Brown needed to play and develop.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 27, 2021 14:58:59 GMT
I have watched the pre season games we have had, an anybody who can't see that he has improved immeasurably, obviously has an agenda. Yes there are area's he still needs to improve on, but boy he looks 100% better than he did last season. I can see him getting quite a few assists this season. He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. Players must look at this site, I'm sure they do. Now I know any player should be able to take criticise, it's part of the game, and I believe they do, they take it on the chin and use it as a spur to prove the doubters wrong. It can be character building etc But I just wonder what a player thinks if they look at the site, and fans are saying we don't really care what you do on the pitch, we don't care if you put in all the hours to improve, we will still think you are shit!! Where do you go from there? Very strange. It's a bit like saying to another poster, I don't care what you say or write on here, I am still going to say you are wrong!
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Post by Batfink on Jul 27, 2021 15:00:58 GMT
He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. It's a bit like saying to another poster, I don't care what you say or write on here, I am still going to say you are wrong! Haha that is clearly the approach of a few posters on here.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jul 27, 2021 15:02:38 GMT
He is useless I don’t mind saying. If he is anywhere near our first 11 we are lumbered. Any improvement in pre season is irrelevant. Players must look at this site, I'm sure they do. Now I know any player should be able to take criticise, it's part of the game, and I believe they do, they take it on the chin and use it as a spur to prove the doubters wrong. It can be character building etc But I just wonder what a player thinks if they look at the site, and fans are saying we don't really care what you do on the pitch, we don't care if you put in all the hours to improve, we will still think you are shit!! Where do you go from there? Very strange. It's a bit like saying to another poster, I don't care what you say or write on here, I am still going to say you are wrong!A bit like Bayern then!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 15:14:39 GMT
If he scores within the first couple of games of the actual season, I feel like he’ll go on to have a decent one. As has been mentioned, he did get 10 assists for Barnsley in his final season there.
The problem Stoke often have with players who have some pace (Brown isn’t the fastest, but he’s not slow either) is that we always boot the ball long for them “to chase”. Maybe he’ll do better with Vracinic just feeding the ball in front of him instead.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 27, 2021 15:24:08 GMT
I think there is a player in there waiting to break out. Campbell was not flavour of the month on here for some time. His father wanted him to leave due to lack of game time. He like Brown needed to play and develop. I'm scraping the memory banks and think with Ty I was concerned about his fitness and ability to impact games, rather than on-the-ball quality? Brown seems like a good egg, works hard and got into useful positions which shows a promising footballing brain. He might not come good for us but I'll give him a chance with 100% support from me. Goarn lad.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jul 27, 2021 15:27:38 GMT
Hopefully he’ll be the next Peter Thorne after a shit first 12 months then scores for fun.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 27, 2021 15:31:20 GMT
I think there is a player in there waiting to break out. Campbell was not flavour of the month on here for some time. His father wanted him to leave due to lack of game time. He like Brown needed to play and develop. Well said - not that the usual boo-boys will understand it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 27, 2021 15:32:10 GMT
See the Christian Norton thread
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 27, 2021 15:54:13 GMT
Hopefully he’ll be the next Peter Thorne after a shit first 12 months then scores for fun. I don't think he'll come close to Thorney. Brown is not a goalscoring forward. His improved performances this season show what he does best - gets into good positions, makes space, and provides assists. Like someone else said above, finishing is not his strong point. What we need is someone who can bang them in, and with Ty on the sidelines then right now we have nobody. Fletcher is now 34 and more often than not, crocked! Weve talked about getting Keinan Davis in, but he's again somebody who holds the ball up and makes space for others to score. Goals may well come from midfielders and the odd one here and there from Brown, but we need a more natural striker. To be honest, I'd rather we didn't go for Davis and kept Brown as a partner for our scorer - hopefully either Kuchta, Charles or Delap.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 27, 2021 16:07:03 GMT
He certainly didn’t pull up many trees when he first arrived. His touch and ball control did leave a lot to be desired but his form did improve a little towards the end of the season. If he does start the season it’s imperative that he does well and contributes
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Post by walton corner on Jul 27, 2021 16:27:50 GMT
I haven’t been his biggest fan …..but I think he looks stronger and his touch has improved..so can only be a positive for me what I have seen in ore season games
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Post by george2again on Jul 27, 2021 16:28:55 GMT
Has the potential to be a really good player for us. Based on what exactly ? Shown he’s a poor footballer thus far. An improvement in pre-season means absolutely nothing. Got no forward inclination at all , falls apart when he has to make a decision in the main.
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 27, 2021 16:33:15 GMT
Struggling to remember. Have I or We seen him play live. ?
With a packed out stadium, and in particular the Boothen this boy could quite easily become a man.
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Post by george2again on Jul 27, 2021 16:40:32 GMT
Has the potential to be a really good player for us. Based on what exactly ? Shown he’s a poor footballer thus far. An improvement in pre-season means absolutely nothing. Got no forward inclination at all , falls apart when he has to make a decision in the main. If I were to give him a go I think right back would be my choice. He seems more of a task based player not someone who can improvise in the last third. He was painful to watch most of last season. He has the engine for right back or right wing back but going forward making decisions is his big problem. One of your front three and your buggered.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 27, 2021 16:44:40 GMT
Based on what exactly ? Shown he’s a poor footballer thus far. An improvement in pre-season means absolutely nothing. Got no forward inclination at all , falls apart when he has to make a decision in the main. If I were to give him a go I think right back would be my choice. He seems more of a task based player not someone who can improvise in the last third. He was painful to watch most of last season. He has the engine for right back or right wing back but going forward making decisions is his big problem. One of your front three and your buggered. Wow....thank God your not the manager.
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